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Photographing grow tent / small room - what kind of lens?

pop_rocks

In my empire of dirt
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420club
not a bad shot! what would you like to improve?
@f2 you are giving up a lot of clarity for a fast shutter speed
if you are hand holding i can dig it man, but if you are shooting off a tripod i would stop down to f8 and maybe even f16
 

goingrey

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not a bad shot! what would you like to improve?
@f2 you are giving up a lot of clarity for a fast shutter speed
if you are hand holding i can dig it man, but if you are shooting off a tripod i would stop down to f8 and maybe even f16
Yeah I wasn't thinking about the f number at all, the auto mode gods gave me a 2.

But great tip with raising it for the tripod. Much improved clarity at f8.

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But yeah the field of view is still an issue of course.

With the old pocket camera my main gripe is the lack of dynamic range. All the time I end up with lit parts blown out and shaded parts totally dark. It's why I went with the lit CMOS sensor a7 III. And so far I like it, just need some more lenses hehe.
 

pop_rocks

In my empire of dirt
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420club
a higher end camera will have a better dynamic range of course, but we can work with what you have and get you the results you want
your pics dont looks bad

but of course! more lenses
/they might give you the field of view you want
check the used market on amazon or someplace reputable
is there a camera shop in your area
 
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Elrond

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I use some Canon FD lenses with a cheap adapter. You can get the FD 24/2.8 and 35/2.8 for under $100. They are great manual lenses. Check out their reviews on Youtube.
 

goingrey

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Only if you need an adapter who translates the autofocus. Not really necessary for plants. Non-AF adapters are available for a few bucks.
Check out kentfaith.com for cheap adapters.
Good tip thanks.

I use some Canon FD lenses with a cheap adapter. You can get the FD 24/2.8 and 35/2.8 for under $100. They are great manual lenses. Check out their reviews on Youtube.
EU prices seem closer to 200 EUR, even more from stores, add shipping and it's not far off from the Samyang 14mm 1.8 that is on sale for 300 EUR. Which is also manual btw so I guess the question is which has the better optics. And Samyang 24/2.8 autofocus would be even cheaper, 230 EUR.
 

goingrey

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Ok so after some investigation, my pocket camera zoomed totally out (4.5mm), which is an ok capture of the room, would be the equivalent of a 25mm lens. So the correct choice would be a 24mm lens I guess.

So I'm thinking Sony FE 24mm F2.8 G or Viltrox 24mm F1.8.

Sony would also have a 24mm F1.4 GM but it's over twice the price of the 2.8 and maybe for this application little benefit?
 

Elrond

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Good tip thanks.


EU prices seem closer to 200 EUR, even more from stores, add shipping and it's not far off from the Samyang 14mm 1.8 that is on sale for 300 EUR. Which is also manual btw so I guess the question is which has the better optics. And Samyang 24/2.8 autofocus would be even cheaper, 230 EUR.
There are some more expensive versions, but also cheaper ones that aren‘t any less in quality, see photo.

You can also get a Vivitar or Tokina lens for only 50€. Or a Yashica Contax mount lens.
 

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goingrey

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There are some more expensive versions, but also cheaper ones that aren‘t any less in quality, see photo.

You can also get a Vivitar or Tokina lens for only 50€. Or a Yashica Contax mount lens.
Those are some sweet deals, less than the rent for Sony gear from the local shop (85 EUR)!

Is it safe to buy this kind of used lens online, are they often scratched or have something else to worry about?
 

Elrond

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Those are some sweet deals, less than the rent for Sony gear from the local shop (85 EUR)!

Is it safe to buy this kind of used lens online, are they often scratched or have something else to worry about?
Well, you have to check the description and the photos thoroughly. Ask questions when in doubt. If you have any doubts, don’t buy. I bought a lot of used lenses online and most of them were good.
 

goingrey

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goingrey

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So I got the Tamron 24mm/2.8

This is what I see from the door.

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Not quite the whole room but it's ok, I think.
 

pop_rocks

In my empire of dirt
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420club
new glass!?! im all in
that is a sweet lens! like just a great walking around lens for outdoor/street photography
nice score
have you ever heard of stitching photos? where you would take a series of photos to get the field of view you want
i will have to look for them one day but i have some great panoramas

enjoy the new glass
 

goingrey

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new glass!?! im all in
that is a sweet lens! like just a great walking around lens for outdoor/street photography
nice score
have you ever heard of stitching photos? where you would take a series of photos to get the field of view you want
i will have to look for them one day but i have some great panoramas

enjoy the new glass
Thanks, it's new yeah. Relatively inexpensive lens and has some distortion but I think it's good enough for now at least. This one also takes pretty good closeups up to 1:2 magnification which is a super nice bonus for some budshots.

The panorama thing is pretty cool but maybe too involved for the application of just documenting the general view of the grow. Don't really need to see the whole room as won't have plants in every nook and cranny anyway so I think the 24mm is fine, but I can see why that Youtube dude recommended a shorter length for small room (real estate) photography.
 

pop_rocks

In my empire of dirt
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420club
tamron are actually good budget glass
the lens is sweet! @ 24/ 2.8 a great lens that has a lot of uses
i dont know how much larger the room is but all you have to do is swivel the tripod a few degrees in either direction and you can get photos of whatever you are not seeing
how much more of the room do you want in the shot?
 

goingrey

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tamron are actually good budget glass
the lens is sweet! @ 24/ 2.8 a great lens that has a lot of uses
i dont know how much larger the room is but all you have to do is swivel the tripod a few degrees in either direction and you can get photos of whatever you are not seeing
how much more of the room do you want in the shot?
Well not that much, like in the photo above would have been nice to have the pot on the left entirely.. But I think I will only have three pots in front of the hydro setup in future grows and those will fit nicely in the shot.

So, it's cool. And in fact the answer to the question posed in the title.. What kind of lens for documenting grows, well one option is the Tamron 24mm/2.8. :)

Thanks to you and @Elrond for setting me in the right direction. The 14mm Sony I was considering probably wouldn't have been as suitable - despite being much more expensive.
 
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