Philips 315w CDM Elite (CMH)

[Hammerhead]

It's a bit cheaper at Growers house. Always do some research before you buy. You could find them on sale.

Also there is another Remote 315 on the market.

Prism Lighting Science 315w Ceramic Metal Halide CMH Ballast 120/240v $139.23. I picked 1 up. Just 1 more to go all my veg lights will be 315"s
http://growershouse.com/prism-lighting-science-315w-ceramic-mh-ballast-120-240v

 

[KingSkillz]

The amount of knowledge available on this site is impressive. Thanks again.

 

[McKush]

It's a bit cheaper at Growers house. Always do some research before you buy. You could find them on sale.

Also there is another Remote 315 on the market.

Prism Lighting Science 315w Ceramic Metal Halide CMH Ballast 120/240v $139.23. I picked 1 up. Just 1 more to go all my veg lights will be 315"s
http://growershouse.com/prism-lighting-science-315w-ceramic-mh-ballast-120-240v

Very affordable 315w ballast PF! let us know how that ballast works out and if there is any difference to the others out there

 

[Ez Rider]

you can get them at any hydro store.. Many of us use Growers house.



I can't keep my hand on any of the remote Ballast for long there hot. The LEC 630 I can but these are built into the fixture and they use Phillips Ballast.. I'm using the 630 in my dr150. Its just to big and heavy IMO for tent use. I think 2 separate 315 would work much better. The 630 is for a room install IMO.

I am in no way dissing you or your system, but the lec 630 is one of the worst IMHO. The 930 lamps work better in a vert reflector for 1, and the lamps in the 630lec are way too close together for 2. You have a large, butterfly shaped hotspot under the hood, and the hood itself gets pretty hot. My greenbeams(hoods) are cool to the touch, even after an 18hr cycle, and the ballasts are just a little warm.

 

[KingSkillz]

Are there any benefits for running 240v?

 

[Hammerhead]

Absolutely, By installing a 240V power circuit, much more electrical power is potentially available to draw from. For example if your garden had two 15 amp, 120 volt lines supplying power to the room, you would have a total of 30 amps of power available at 120 volts. Running at 120 volts draws more amps. With a amperage draw of 6.25 jsut 4 lights could be turned on before blowing a breaker. However, with just one 30amp, 240 volt line there would be enough electricity available to run up to nine with 3.12a. Since the amperage draw is much less there would still be power available for other equipment. The us has some Jurassic shit like voltage 120 vs 240 and English vs metric.

I am in no way dissing you or your system, but the lec 630 is one of the worst IMHO. The 930 lamps work better in a vert reflector for 1, and the lamps in the 630lec are way too close together for 2. You have a large, butterfly shaped hotspot under the hood, and the hood itself gets pretty hot. My greenbeams(hoods) are cool to the touch, even after an 18hr cycle, and the ballasts are just a little warm.

We all have an Opinion. I lov the LEC 630. It blows any 600w MH I ever used. Highly doubt these where made for use in a 5x5x tent. I got my 630 a long time ago. I don't use my 630 to flower with all my CMH lights are to veg with only. I lov the other 3 315 as well. There is a lot more to choose from now then there was when I got my light. I know a lot of people using LEC 630. Someone just bought 8 of them for his room.

 

[KingSkillz]

How come you don't flower with them?

 

[Hammerhead]

My flower room is setup with all DE gavita..

 

[KingSkillz]

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[Ez Rider]

Do the cmh flower well?

Only 5 1/2 weeks in to my first run, but I'd say "YES". See https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=7416730&postcount=206

 

[Ez Rider]

Absolutely, By installing a 240V power circuit, much more electrical power is potentially available to draw from. For example if your garden had two 15 amp, 120 volt lines supplying power to the room, you would have a total of 30 amps of power available at 120 volts. Running at 120 volts draws more amps. With a amperage draw of 6.25 jsut 4 lights could be turned on before blowing a breaker. However, with just one 30amp, 240 volt line there would be enough electricity available to run up to nine with 3.12a. Since the amperage draw is much less there would still be power available for other equipment. The us has some Jurassic shit like voltage 120 vs 240 and English vs metric.




We all have an Opinion. I lov the LEC 630. It blows any 600w MH I ever used. Highly doubt these where made for use in a 5x5x tent. I got my 630 a long time ago. I don't use my 630 to flower with all my CMH lights are to veg with only. I lov the other 3 315 as well. There is a lot more to choose from now then there was when I got my light. I know a lot of people using LEC 630. Someone just bought 8 of them for his room.

I came very close to buying 3 for my setup...until I saw the greenbeams. Considering that most people are saying a 315cmh is roughly equal to a 600w hps/mh, I'd certainly hope 630w of cmh would outperform a 600w mh, regardless of how inefficiently the reflector is built. I'm not denying it works, I know a few people who are reasonably happy with them. All I'm saying is that it's a FAR cry from the most efficient use of the lamps. Since energy efficiency is one of the main advantages of cmh lamps, it only makes sense to use them as efficiently as possible. I'll bet anything you'd like that 16 greenbeams will CRUSH 8 LEC's in total coverage/uniformity/yield. Just my

 

[Hammerhead]

LMAO. Telling me your not knocking my light and then in the same sentence you say it sucks. If you where comparing apples to apples a 315 SS vs a 315 Green beam would perform the same in veg. 315 is not the same as a 600mh that's pure sales gimmick. I have used both. No 315 I have performs the same as the 600mh in my veg room. I don't have room to use 16 of anything. Those 8 LEC I mentioned where not for my room. Obviously they wanted the LEC. I'm sure he got a good deal on them. If you prefer to use green beams you know where to get them. Telling me they suck really doesn't say much I have no clue why you even went there .

 

[Ez Rider]

LMAO. Telling me your not knocking my light and then in the same sentence you say it sucks. If you where comparing apples to apples a 315 SS vs a 315 Green beam would perform the same in veg. 315 is not the same as a 600mh that's pure sales gimmick. I have used both. No 315 I have performs the same as the 630 in my veg room. If you prefer to use green beams you know where to get them. Telling me they suck really doesn't say much I have no clue why you even went there .

Is english your first language? I DID say the 630 sucks. It was you, and your system as a whole I excluded from sucking. I said 315w cmh is roughly = 600w hps/mh, of course 1-315cmh isn't = 2-315cmh(630). The 630 sucks because it's an extremely inefficient use of 2 extremely efficient lamps. It's not like I'm accusing you of manufacturing the damned thing. All I'm saying is that all other things being equal, 2 greenbeams is a way better way to go, and yes I do know where I got them. Thanks to all the members who steered me AWAY from the 630lec's

 

[Hammerhead]

Kids, I'm probably twice your age. What was the purpose of the post to tell me you think the LEC 630 sucks?. Why would you think I want to know that?. Saying my 630 is excluded from sucking made no sense. Its no different then any other LEC 630. All dual 315 system are not as efficient as the singles. I already know all about the inefficiency of the LEC 630 Reflector. we have talked about this long ago. Its not any of my business what anyone else likes to use. I wouldn't say anything since I have no clue what the facts are surrounding there purchase. I will be getting another Phantom. I have no interest in GB.

 

[GET MO]

I got two gavita 1000w DEs in my 5x10 flower room, was thinking of turning them down to 825 or 750 and putting a 630 cmh on a light mover going back n forth between my 2 tables. Anyone have experience combining cmh with the de hps lighting? Also anyone put a 630 on a light mover before? I know the phantom 315 i got is sensitive to being tapped or moved too much while on, how gentle are light movers?
Also, PF, u think 2 315s for a 4 1/2 x 4 1/2 tent would veg better than a 630? I got one 315 right now and it vegs pretty damn good but i wanted to try n speed things up n shorten internodes uh lil mo... If thats the case i prolly just get another phantom.
One more thing... do the 315s with the ballast attached make the room notably hotter than the separated ones like the phantom I got?

 

[krunchbubble]

I am in no way dissing you or your system, but the lec 630 is one of the worst IMHO. The 930 lamps work better in a vert reflector for 1, and the lamps in the 630lec are way too close together for 2. You have a large, butterfly shaped hotspot under the hood, and the hood itself gets pretty hot. My greenbeams(hoods) are cool to the touch, even after an 18hr cycle, and the ballasts are just a little warm.

Only 5 1/2 weeks in to my first run, but I'd say "YES". See https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=7416730&postcount=206

I came very close to buying 3 for my setup...until I saw the greenbeams. Considering that most people are saying a 315cmh is roughly equal to a 600w hps/mh, I'd certainly hope 630w of cmh would outperform a 600w mh, regardless of how inefficiently the reflector is built. I'm not denying it works, I know a few people who are reasonably happy with them. All I'm saying is that it's a FAR cry from the most efficient use of the lamps. Since energy efficiency is one of the main advantages of cmh lamps, it only makes sense to use them as efficiently as possible. I'll bet anything you'd like that 16 greenbeams will CRUSH 8 LEC's in total coverage/uniformity/yield. Just my

Is english your first language? I DID say the 630 sucks. It was you, and your system as a whole I excluded from sucking. I said 315w cmh is roughly = 600w hps/mh, of course 1-315cmh isn't = 2-315cmh(630). The 630 sucks because it's an extremely inefficient use of 2 extremely efficient lamps. It's not like I'm accusing you of manufacturing the damned thing. All I'm saying is that all other things being equal, 2 greenbeams is a way better way to go, and yes I do know where I got them. Thanks to all the members who steered me AWAY from the 630lec's

Hey yo...

Get off the computer and take a bong shot or eat a Snickers...

YOUR Greenbeams are the shit and EVERYTHING else sucks, we get it...

Its not a big deal...

 

[Hammerhead]

absolutely MO, I will be taking the 630 out of the tent replacing it with 2 315's. The 630 is just to big and heavy. Its not designed for tent use. I might move the 630 into the flower room. The all in 1 units take up valuable head space also not intended for tent use. The 315 reflector's are large but much lighter. I think the foot print will be much better using 2 singles vs 1 dual. Controlling the temp should be better with the singles as well. I have not done this yet so I'm just guessing at this point.


KB you testing 1 of those Starlite yet??

 

[KingSkillz]

Hard to pull the trigger on the gb. Is the reflector that much of a better design? Seems like getting a more affordable remote ballast is the way to go. Maybe the reflector is worth the extra coin?

 

[Ez Rider]

Kids, I'm probably twice your age. What was the purpose of the post to tell me you think the LEC 630 sucks?. Why would you think I want to know that?. Saying my 630 is excluded from sucking made no sense. Its no different then any other LEC 630. All dual 315 system are not as efficient as the singles. I already know all about the inefficiency of the LEC 630 Reflector. we have talked about this long ago. Its not any of my business what anyone else likes to use. I wouldn't say anything since I have no clue what the facts are surrounding there purchase. I will be getting another Phantom. I have no interest in GB.

Your reading comprehension skills are impressive, you must have learned that back in the 40's in grade school.

Hey yo...

Get off the computer and take a bong shot or eat a Snickers...

YOUR Greenbeams are the shit and EVERYTHING else sucks, we get it...

Its not a big deal...

Did I ever say "everything" else sucked? I specifically said the 630LEC sucked. It's one of the most inefficient uses of 2-315w lamps on the market. That is a FACT. If you don't like it, that's OK too.

FYI...snickers are HORRIBLE for you.

Hard to pull the trigger on the gb. Is the reflector that much of a better design? Seems like getting a more affordable remote ballast is the way to go. Maybe the reflector is worth the extra coin?

I'd say yes. I got the entire cycloptics package, but if I was doing it again I'd look for ballasts with removable/switchable power cords instead. The par-grow is universal voltage, but the cords and ends are hard-wired, which is a hassle.

 

[Hammerhead]

ThERES A REASON WE HAVE IGNORE WELCOME TO THAT CLUB YOU EARNED IT.

New ballast has shipped. I will take some pics when it gets here.