Ph problem with pics

[ShroomDr]

I just changed the water to
30ml PBPBsoil
35Liquid Karma
25Hygrozyme
734
6.00

I saved the old solution, to monitor if it is stll rising without the plant.

I will monitor the current solution too, but i can only check it for another hour, and it might be 24H before i can get back and check it again.

 

[ShroomDr]

with plant its 6.61 236pm
6.95 311pm
8phdwn
5.52

 

[ShroomDr]

no responses huh...

well pH is 6.31 (i expected higher)
and

4ml pH dwn


pH 5.90

 

[Guest]

your playing around with your ph...sounds like your doing the same thing and expecting a different result..which in definition is insanity

 

[ShroomDr]

good call Einstein,



so instead of trying maybe i should cut it down, and quit forever huh?


ANY REAL help is appreciated.

A pH of 6.31 is TOO high for hydro, and just leaving it uncorrected, is stupid. Not correcting an obvious problem, is again, stupid.




I am not doing the 'same thing'. I dropped the two newest nutes from the feeding program. If you cant keep up...


I dont have bugs, and i dont think im feeding too much. my EC was at 2.6


So that pretty much blows a hole in everything you have said thus far, in this thread unicorn.

Thanks anyway
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At the very least, this is a log of my problems. The lights come on in a few, so ill be back.

 

[ShroomDr]

after top off,
pH 5.90

 

[Guest]

ok que-ball this is my advice although you obviously do not want it...get a feeding regime that is tried and proven for grass then follow it...because to be honest you have not learned to dance the maryjane...learn to listen to the plants through your readings...something in your mix is not rite it does not take Einstein to see that...if your ph is not stable without a plant how are you going to read the plant when you cant even stabilize your mix...quit adding ph down and change formulas...Einstein...im insulted...some say he had an iq in the 160s...reality 140s he was a genius....not genius

good call Einstein,



so instead of trying maybe i should cut it down, and quit forever huh?


ANY REAL help is appreciated.

A pH of 6.31 is TOO high for hydro, and just leaving it uncorrected, is stupid. Not correcting an obvious problem, is again, stupid.




I am not doing the 'same thing'. I dropped the two newest nutes from the feeding program. If you cant keep up...


I dont have bugs, and i dont think im feeding too much. my EC was at 2.6


So that pretty much blows a hole in everything you have said thus far, in this thread unicorn.

Thanks anyway
-----------------------------


At the very least, this is a log of my problems. The lights come on in a few, so ill be back.

 

[Mibri]

Didn't read it all, but if you're using tap water fill it in the rez a day before usage, also add the nutes, then phdown. Consider it you're cooking a good meal for the ladies. Let it rest for a day before using it. That's what i did to make my ph more steady. Had exactly the same problem a while ago, but doing this definately makes my stable. I can now use it and only adjust every other day. I don't have much experience though

 

[sensigroove]

I wouldnt recommend Super Thrive in flowering. I have heard various diff. unconfirmed reports that it can produce fluffy buds in flowerin. I try to stear clear from shit that fucks with hormones. my .02

bartender187

So that is what causing that. Thanks so much I was wondering why my buds where doing that. I don't use Super Thrive unless I run into problems with my girls. But I have notice a harvest here and there with big fluffy buds. Yeild is cool but the fluff is not.

Thanks

 

[sproutco]

So that pretty much blows a hole in everything you have said thus far, in this thread unicorn.

Thanks anyway

Come on Shroomy. He is just trying to help. Time for you to smoke some of that ak 47 you grew. Do it now! Lol.

 

[ShroomDr]

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

I wasnt calling you Einstein, You quoted him (although now, im not sure you knew it)

ok que-ball this is my advice although you obviously do not want it...get a feeding regime that is tried and proven for grass then follow it...because to be honest you have not learned to dance the maryjane...learn to listen to the plants through your readings...something in your mix is not rite it does not take Einstein to see that...if your ph is not stable without a plant how are you going to read the plant when you cant even stabilize your mix...quit adding ph down and change formulas...Einstein...im insulted...some say he had an iq in the 160s...reality 140s he was a genius....not genius

What you are suggesting is that one day, out of the blue, my plant decided she was not getting enough food, and instead of a gradual pH rise, you are suggesting that my plant developed some hyperthyroid disease, where she started to eat like she is had been trapped on a deserted island, and hadnt eating in weeks. She is past the half way point in flower, but suddenly has an endless appetite.


ok...... I know that too light of a feeding, will result in a rising pH, but rising a half a point in 30minutes? NOT going to happen.

If this WAS true, (im underfeeding) why is the pH more stable with less nutes (i dropped the Overdrive and Cal Mag) You theory doesnt hold water.



Now, you call me cueball, tell me i 'havent learned to dance'. Its rediclous.

You joined here less than 2 months ago, and have over 1000 posts. There are at least two people in this thread that say they are over fed, and you want me to feed more.

hmm that's difficult, can you show us pics that show the actual colours? Maybe take one heavy affected leaf of?
I do see a little fert burn though

This is a DWC set up right?
I'm not sure what kind of nutes you are using but you need to ease up on the nutes. Run pure water with PH adjustment for a week with a few more days if you see improvement, look for white roots and growth, use Super Thrive, a drop a gal and use it till the end but never too much.

113 p is outrageous.

The testing the nute mix without the plant IS GREAT. Its called a CONTROL. If i have a spoiled bottle of something, Its going to cause the pH to rise independent of root mass.

So you have said

ph is not your problem

my friend you have mites

now I'm underfeeding. If Sproutco had not stepped up, i would think you are purposely trying to kill my beauty.

Im not trying to be shitty, and you have posted in my other growlog unicorn, but your hypothesise make absolutely no sense to me, and do not reflect the data I have given.

 

[ShroomDr]

Time for you to smoke some of that ak 47 you grew. Do it now! Lol.

You know it

 

[ShroomDr]

i do use tap, and i like where your going, but i let it sit at least 24 hours, and right now ive had this water 'banked' for over a week. good guess though.

Im almost positive the pH flux is over. The pH stablized at about 5.7, so about an hour before lights out, i added 15ml Cal Mag Max back to the mix. If its stable tomarrow morning, i might add the Silca Blast back, then maybe the Overdrive the day after that.

Right now i have my levels at

N 45
P 50
K 127
Mg 31
Ca 88

not including my tap water and 12ml total of GH pH down.

I know thats really light, but i want to make sure its not the bottles of Nutes.

 

[Guest]

actually i joined in 2003...and i quoted the definition of insanity...everthing i told you is true...listen or dont...

I wasnt calling you Einstein, You quoted him (although now, im not sure you knew it)

What you are suggesting is that one day, out of the blue, my plant decided she was not getting enough food, and instead of a gradual pH rise, you are suggesting that my plant developed some hyperthyroid disease, where she started to eat like she is had been trapped on a deserted island, and hadnt eating in weeks. She is past the half way point in flower, but suddenly has an endless appetite.


ok...... I know that too light of a feeding, will result in a rising pH, but rising a half a point in 30minutes? NOT going to happen.

If this WAS true, (im underfeeding) why is the pH more stable with less nutes (i dropped the Overdrive and Cal Mag) You theory doesnt hold water.



Now, you call me cueball, tell me i 'havent learned to dance'. Its rediclous.

You joined here less than 2 months ago, and have over 1000 posts. There are at least two people in this thread that say they are over fed, and you want me to feed more.




The testing the nute mix without the plant IS GREAT. Its called a CONTROL. If i have a spoiled bottle of something, Its going to cause the pH to rise independent of root mass.

So you have said






now I'm underfeeding. If Sproutco had not stepped up, i would think you are purposely trying to kill my beauty.

Im not trying to be shitty, and you have posted in my other growlog unicorn, but your hypothesise make absolutely no sense to me, and do not reflect the data I have given.

 

[Mibri]

Hey Schroom. Remember that it's your problem, and since you write on this forum people will try to help you from different sides of view and experience. Don't expect people on the forum to solve YOUR problem, at least, don't get angry when they can't. It's not easy to solve problems on a forum since we don't get to see/feel the plants and environment. Well, just read all the inputs you get, sort out yourself which ones work and which don't. You'll get a lot of the don'ts, but nobody's trying to kill your plants.

 

[sproutco]

Interesting find

Interesting find

Learn something new everyday. Too much p = boron deficiency.

http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/1000/1252.html

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[Verite]

?? I could swore I posted it already in a post or two of yours.

 

[ShroomDr]

Ive never seen that before. Thank you.

The pH swing is over with.

I have tested all the bottles, and they had nothing to do with it.

Pythium was the probable culprit, exacerbated by the lack of air supply for 24Hours.
Day 45 Flowering.

My current feeding is

N 76
P 90
K 229
Mg 51
Ca 88
Fe 1.5
S 28
+Trace from the Sweet, and my tap water (calcium)(ec .32).

I cut her down last time at day 53, but this time im going to let her go at least 60 days.

 

[inflorescence]

Verite, I've been looking for that chart all my life. Thanks.

 

[Verite]

Then you'll probably like the whole page it comes from. Mostly geared towards farmers but all the soil info in one place is priceless.

http://www.farmtested.com/56.html