Diary PCBuds mini-grow

[PCBuds]

I plugged in my exhaust fan.

I figure that should lower the temperature and increase the RH with more wind blowing on the wet rag.

 

[GanjaLion]

I thought raising the humidity was science and bullshit? Oh well haha good to see.

 

[PCBuds]

I thought raising the humidity was science and bullshit? Oh well haha good to see.

It's not complete crap, just mostly.
Lol

It turned out to be quite easy to just hang a wet rag in the closet.
I do have a hook in the ceiling where I could hang a rag, but that is just an accident waiting to happen.


I want to keep everything as simple and failsafe as possible.

I've found that some things are more important than others.
The amount of nutes turned out to be really important.
Even with my outdoor plants (where there is no real control over temperature, wind, RH, PH and light), the plants really took off when I fertilized them.


I was intending to turn on my exhaust fan anyway, so I figured that now is a good time.

I think that I've come to the conclusion that I should try to keep the conditions as optimal as possible at least for the babies, especially with an autoflower where you can mess up a plant for the whole grow with a bad start.

I don't want to see any purple on a baby or seedling.
No stress for the youngins.
Beat up on them when they're older.
Lol

 

[PCBuds]

It's working...

I don't know if I've actually got more moisture in the air, or if it is just the temperature drop that made the change, but the numbers are looking better.

 

[f2obsession]

If you place a small bucket with water under the rag (leting at least 5cm of rags bottom end underwater), keeps the rag really wet for many hours, or several days (depends on water amount and wind power). It makes this rag/towel method a lot more effective. Better to use clean soft water. Hard tap water can permanently discolour the rag (I use white towels inside growbox, maybe you dont mind, if your rag gets discolored)

 

[PCBuds]

If you place a small bucket with water under the rag (leting at least 5cm of rags bottom end underwater), keeps the rag really wet for many hours, or several days (depends on water amount and wind power). It makes this rag/towel method a lot more effective. Better to use clean soft water. Hard tap water can permanently discolour the rag (I use white towels inside growbox, maybe you dont mind, if your rag gets discolored)

Yeah, that's a good idea.
I'll see what I can figure out tomorrow.

I don't care about the rag. It was an old rag to start with, so it doesn't matter if it gets more stains.



She is really flaking out.
She normally flakes out but not this much and not this early. She still has two hours until lights out.

I'm not worried. She'll get used to it.
I'm sure that it would be enough to kill a seedling though.

I'm going to use a 50/50 mix of bloom and veg nutes next watering.

 

[PCBuds]

Wow!! Did she ever flake out.
I am a bit concerned now. It's an hour before the lights come on.

I checked my thread and found that the RH was just as low with that big plant that I grew last year, but it didn't flake out like this one is doing...

I'll see what happens today and maybe turn down the lights a bit for now ?

 

[f2obsession]

Can your soil be oversaturated (overwatered) ?

Even if 20-30% RH sounds extremely low to me, i guess your plant may prefer that low humidity in her actual conditions. I had a hydro (DWC) grow this year, that plant got droopy so fast when humidity reached 85%. When I set it back to the 70-80% range, she got perky again in an hour.

One more thing. Was the fan (blowing the rag) connected to the timed power? Even if everything is fine, humidifier should be turned off for dark hours.

 

[exploziv]

Its funny how we almost come to VPD talk in a thread where the OP says plants will be ok without worring about things like VPD/science.

 

[PCBuds]

Can your soil be oversaturated (overwatered) ?

I don't think so. It's 50/50 coco perlite and the plant was fine before the changes.

Even if 20-30% RH sounds extremely low to me, i guess your plant may prefer that low humidity in her actual conditions.

That's what I'm thinking.
I didn't realize my humidity was so low with my plant last year.
This plant may just be accustomed to its environment?

One more thing. Was the fan (blowing the rag) connected to the timed power? Even if everything is fine, humidifier should be turned off for dark hours.

Yeah the fan was blowing all night. It also blew a lot of cold air into the closet. The temperature dropped to 17°C.

 

[PCBuds]

Its funny how we almost come to VPD talk in a thread where the OP says plants will be ok without worring about things like VPD/science.

Yeah, it wasn't until I started messing with the wet rag that everything seemed to take a turn for the worse.


I realized too, that I must have had my exhaust fan off last year because the temperature was reading 27°C.
I've got that bucket of wine bubbling off CO2 and I may just be blowing it out of the closet instead of bringing CO2 into the closet.

I did have a lot happen yesterday all at once, so I unplugged my exhaust fan, and turned my side lights down to 3/4.


I'll try to just LITFA now for a day or two to give her a chance to recover.

The only thing that I want her to get used to is an increase in lighting I think that I should leave everything else alone.


I figure that most of what just happened was due to the change in side lighting.
I went from 1 amp for the side lights 3 days ago, to 2 amps 2 days ago, to 4 amps yesterday, then back to 3 amps today.

That's probably too much, too fast.
(she does look like she is over watered though, but I think too much light can make her look like that too?)

 

[PCBuds]

I went from 1 amp for the side lights 3 days ago, to 2 amps 2 days ago, to 4 amps yesterday, then back to 3 amps today.

Actually, I messed that up too.

I first turned on my side lights on Nov 13th at 1 amp total, then I turned it up to 1 amp each power supply (2 amp total), but I forget when I did that.

Then I turned it up to 4 amps total, two days ago, then 8 amps total yesterday.


So I turned my side lights down to 4 amps total and will wait until she looks happy again before I turn it up again.

I'm aiming for 8 amps total, but there is no big rush, and I'm not going to forget about it. I check the numbers all the time.

She's already perking up and it's only been a couple of hours.

 

[PCBuds]

She's made almost a complete recovery...

I'm pretty sure most of her issues were due to too much light at once.

I've had the wet rag hanging since Nov 8th and the plant was fine.
It wasn't until I initally turned on my side lights that she got droopy just before lights out, then when I cranked it yesterday, she completely collapsed.

The plant from last year didn't do that. I don't know what the difference is ?


I'm going to just leave things alone and give her time to adjust, and wait for her to stand up straight (at least during the day) before I increase the light some more.

I don't want to wait too long because I waited a long time with my last plant and it didn't turn into the 1 pound plant that I was hoping for.

I want to get her used to more light as soon as possible but if I stress her too much I might stunt her and end up with a smaller light weight plant.

I figure if I spend about a week or two turning up the lights, it might be the best approach.

I'll wait until she waits until just before lights out to get sleepy.

I don't want her passing out during the day. lol

 

[PCBuds]

She looks pretty wrinkly. Lol

 

[Sampas92]

If you didnt bbq your girl it wasnt a grow from you buds

Peace

 

[PCBuds]

Its funny how we almost come to VPD talk in a thread where the OP says plants will be ok without worring about things like VPD/science.

I still think that I don't need to worry about VPD too much.
It just doesn't weigh as heavily as something like nutrient concentration or light intensity.

This is my plant from last year...

This is the VDP chart...

22% RH isn't even on the chart.
That's too far past dead to even bother recording. Lol

If I was that far off with nutrients, or lighting, or pretty much anything else,.. I would have a dead plant.


She might not be praying to me at the moment, but I did get her to bow down and curtsy for me. Lol

 

[PCBuds]

If you didnt bbq your girl it wasnt a grow from you buds

Peace

Lol


I just gave her a big dose of LST.

(light stress training. lol)

 

[GanjaLion]

Stop showing us pictures of your plant that you flowered for 200 days and was all foxtailed haha. Your not going to convince anybody that environment isnt important, your just not. It also looks like you just watered in that picture and had the lights turned down much lower.

Your past 2 plants or whatever died and this one is always drooping and your telling everybody else they dont know how to grow. Your not going to disrespect my girl cannabis and confuse people on this forum by saying stuff like that I just cant have it.

 

[PCBuds]

Stop showing us pictures of your plant that you flowered for 200 days and was all foxtailed haha. Your not going to convince anybody that environment isnt important, your just not. It also looks like you just watered in that picture and had the lights turned down much lower.

Your past 2 plants or whatever died and this one is always drooping and your telling everybody else they dont know how to grow. Your not going to disrespect my girl cannabis and confuse people on this forum by saying stuff like that I just cant have it.

Wow!!
I didn't expect that.


I will sober up and reply in the morning.

 

[GanjaLion]

Take your time haha. I dont mean hard feelings, but at one point we have to draw the line hehe. The moisture in the air is important...