passive plant killer

[mrcreosote]

Lol.
" I don't get it...Big spike in can and barrel filter sales but everything else is the same. What's up with that?"

Yipes D9...Thems some nugs.
My g-13 cross put out some really big fatties relative to plant size. Not a bunch of them, but what it did, it did big. I'm really pretty pleased how it turned out. The trim oil turned out so nice I wish they weren't so easy to trim.
I'd gladly trade the time for more product.
I can't even think about busting them big nugs up into pieces to make more just yet. Too pretty. Pity. That oil will sort your shit out right away. One hit gets you home. Well, maybe the brownies, coming up the backside helped a bit too...

So what if I'm overdoing it a little...cut me some slack. First harvest...I earned it.
No matter what else I do, this will always be the best one that I'll remember.
Ya know, like cherry-poppin' time.

See? You never forget your first go round.

Soon it will be time for some dry sift.
What a fun hobby.

Hey D9, whats your thoughts on stuff under 45-50 microns? Trash?
I saw those bags in your link, looks like you have to buy a lot of them IIRC.
I kind of like the bucket sieves. They seem like they could do double duty as dry sift or water hash. Certainly cant cry about the price either.
Now if we can get them to make a stainless screen in a 5 gallon size the same way it would be like a free pancake breakfast.
I don't need the 55 gal drum size...yet.
I'm starting to think Jr. is entertaining thoughts about becoming the pakalolo man on campus in the fall.He seems overly enthused about my moving into larger quarters soon.
Gotta nip that in the bud ,so to speak, right away.

 

[delta9nxs]

This thread just goes everywhere... what now? So now with all this time I'm not spending on growing DWC, I can consentrate on making BIODIESEL! maybe buy a diesel automobile!? Onto BIODIESEL production! >>> Diesel, SourDiesel, NYCDiesel, ECSourDiesel.. Does anyone call their seeds BIODIESEL? a combination of 2 diesel strains! of course. HAHA! Thanks creosote!!!!

http://hempcar.org/diesel.shtml

 

[delta9nxs]

"Hey D9, whats your thoughts on stuff under 45-50 microns? Trash?"

i haven't a clue, never tried it. the smallest i have tried is 75 microns. it seems to let most of the trich heads through but not much else.

if you go to youtube you can find vids on "dry ice extraction".

very interesting.

 

[stagehand099]

Hi PPK'ers. I found a local place that will order me a 50lb bale of rice hulls. Now I need 2-3 local prices from yall so I know whether I'm getting reamed or not by these folks. Thanks a lot.

stagehand

 

[delta9nxs]

http://www.hhydro.com/search.php?mode=search&page=1

these people are really cheap but by the time you add freight it's close to $45.

so if you have someone local who will charge you under 50 it's very fair.

mixed at the 3/1 ratio one 50 lb bale will pot up 62 3.5 gal containers.

that's 80 cents per plant.

it's going to get cheaper as the uses for it increase. right now the expensive horse crowd is going for it as stall bedding.

it's starting to be used for bulk blown insulation. it doesn't want to burn and has better insulation values than blown cellulose.

 

[mrcreosote]

Well, there it is folks..
Living proof that you cant OD on weed.

Or at least a dog can't.

Wifey's damn dog got 3 brownies wrapped up on the counter. That sumbitch must have used the step stool.
2 small brownies got me as high as I ever want to be...She ate 3...
Pound for pound that's 9x what I had.
Sheesh, no wonder that dumb-ass couldn't walk. I thought she got parvo.
Just a sittin' and a grinnin' in a spastic kind of way...thieving rotten bastard.

I really hate that dog.

 

[Slimm]

Sorry to hear this. Chocolate is toxic to dogs - this may be your lucky day. j/k (it really is toxic though)

 

[mrcreosote]

Chocolate ain't toxic enough for me...

That damn thing looked like it was dying last night. Today she's fine but walking into walls a bit.

What a piece of shit.

I really, really hate that dog. This is almost as bad as when she stole the roast beef.
That was a very bad day at the creosote ranch. I was locked and loaded.

This dog's gotta go.

 

[stagehand099]

http://www.hhydro.com/search.php?mode=search&page=1

these people are really cheap but by the time you add freight it's close to $45.

so if you have someone local who will charge you under 50 it's very fair.

mixed at the 3/1 ratio one 50 lb bale will pot up 62 3.5 gal containers.

that's 80 cents per plant.

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Well they thought 50-60 with freight, so thats reasonable. I just wish I could buy a couple cubic feet of it at a time instead of a 7 cf bale. Thanks for the info, Delta. Things are coming together for my 4 bucket trial. Just have to wait awhile on the space, now.

stagehand

 

[mcfly420]

since I got so much screen and don't feel like shaking anything....
Could I get two ~4' 2x2's, attach a 4' x 1' piece of screen between them, and raise one end? Then I should be able to just dump a bit of turface at a time, let it roll down while the small particles go through, and catch the rest at the bottom?

 

[delta9nxs]

mcfly, if you are using rice hulls you don't need to screen it. in fact, with the rice hulls, i recommend not screening. they open the mix up well as is.

calcined clays or de only need to be screened to increase air porosity if used as a stand alone medium.

when cut with rice hulls, coco, or perlite they can be used as is.

this reminds me that i wanted to talk about the 3/1 turface/ rice hull mix.

this is an extremely porous mix designed for those pulse watering with high volume.

if you are hand watering or using a small pulse volume it really should be heavier.

say 4/1 turface/ rice hulls.

as the plant grows roots fill in the pore spaces and progressively decrease air porosity so you still want to keep the mix loose in a ppk or in most containers with most media.

but if you do want to screen turface and use it alone i used a 2' x 4' 1x4 frame with first a layer of 1/2" hardware wire cloth stapled to the bottom, then lined it with regular aluminum window screen.

put it on a couple of saw horses and dump a 50 lb bag in. shake it dry then rinse it in the screen. works great for hand watering once a day.

 

[disciple]

 

[Treebeard]

Disciple,

I also found that the window screen was a pain during loading the buckets and didn't want to stay in place. That's why I tried a few with some old smartpots I had laying around with the bottoms partially cut to allow for the wick. Once I finally get everything up and running along I'll have time to get some pics up to show what I mean. I found that with the latex tubing just to pinch it a bit and it opens up enough to go over the valves and drip line easily enough. A little push and twist action too. Or a bit of water on the vinyl line helps the latex slide on with less resistance. Great connections though, still no leaks.

D9,

I can't remember if you're also using the 8-4-8-4 lighting schedule to clone as well? I usually clone and have everything vegging under 24hrs now. Do you think the switch to 8-4 would be a big shock? The seed plants I have vegging now I might just keep under 24 until flower and hold off on the 8-4 until I'm vegging the next round of clones. Thanks.

 

[delta9nxs]

"I noticed a white fuzz coming from the inside of the fiberglass window screen at many of the side wall holes on pretty much most of the PPKs that live in my garden.

It doesn't look like mold or bacteria... or fungus.

This is the first time I've run PPKs. Is there any chance that could be fine root hairs??? I have tons of pokeys that get out a bit and stop.... but could the roots be that fuzzy that they make the screen look like it's choked with clothes dryer lint?

holy crap!! if thats whats up that is totally amazing.... no wonder the kids have absolutely launched... with root activity like that (if thats what I'm seeing...)"


roots! pretty soon they'll be growing out of the screen at the bottom most set of holes. like fat, snow white, hairy worms. some will air prune but most will not as they are getting the pulse regularly. then some will grow down the overflow holes into the reservoir.

when i move them to flower i tear off any roots that have made it into the res down the tailpiece and lately have been trimming the roots at the sidewall holes with a knife. they don't grow back if done at this time.

d9

 

[mrcreosote]

disciple,
Those probably are roots you're seeing. When I chopped mine and shook the rootball in a plastic bag I had a solid mass of fine white haired roots that was hard to imagine occupied the same space as the media. Very happy plant roots that are getting all they need.
I use only a 5 quart bucket so I just used 1" pvc pipe with a slip union cut to about a 1/4"- thickness, clipped w/ dikes to open it and a small piece of fibreglass screen placed over the tailpipe w/ superglue on pipe and shoved the slip fitting over it. Glue dries and excess screen gets trimmed. I imagine the same would work with a cable tie, screen and glue.
Works peachy, no roots in tailpipe, no 8822 (turface) in rez.
8822 is diatomacious earth, heat fired or calcined. Bugs hate that shit, kills em dead.
No fargin bugs. What's not to love? I imagine that it's still possible to get em but with no place for them to live, like in coir, your likelihood of getting em drops by (scientific guess) a lot.
I had to wet my screen in my veg 5" mesh basket PPK experiment to keep it in place to load the media. Worked fine until I left them veg too long and roots started to grow out the bottom. Easy place for root disease to start. Guess I got lucky. Works fine for clones but I need a better deal for seeded starts that take a longer time to get decent clones from.

I hope you have another hobby because PPK's leave you with a lot of time on your hands.
Have fun.

 

[delta9nxs]

"D9,

I can't remember if you're also using the 8-4-8-4 lighting schedule to clone as well? I usually clone and have everything vegging under 24hrs now. Do you think the switch to 8-4 would be a big shock? The seed plants I have vegging now I might just keep under 24 until flower and hold off on the 8-4 until I'm vegging the next round of clones. Thanks."

i keep my lights on the clones 24/7 as much for temperature control as anything else. as long as you keep your temps up around 78-80 f on the clones most of the time and give them enough light so they don't initiate flowering you're ok.

also, if you are intending to run the 8-4 in veg you need to be able to measure your light so you can get an idea of what the plants are getting.

i can tell you that 8-4-8-4 works with 1k hortilux at 15-16" but i can't say it will work with your lights.

 

[delta9nxs]

we must all be buying different screen as mine is absolutely no trouble at all to work with.

could it be "operator error"?

look who got the 4:20 pm post.

 

[Treebeard]

I also have 1k hortis. I didn't check the operator manual of the screen, haha. I cut screen strips about 5" wide and rolled them into a circle that fit inside the bucket. Moving slowly, you can fill the bucket and keep the screen in place. It does flop over though and it's easy for media to fall behind the screen and out the sides like Disciple found. It wasn't extremely difficult to install or anything and it's retaining the mix. I just found it much easier to slide in the smartpot liner and fill is all.

 

[delta9nxs]

the 1k horti's can deliver 32 moles in an eight hour period at 16". with 2 eight hour periods a day that's 64 moles/day. that's equal to equatorial sunlight with no cloud cover all day long.

just joking on the screen of course but i load the material into the container with a quart scoop. i don't pour. this stops the mix from separating. in between loads i push it up against the screen to hold it in place until i get over the screen. you can't over pack this mix. you can push on it and tamp it all you want but it will not compact.

but i agree that there has got to be a better way to do it.

i've thought about drawing off a rectangle just big enough to cover the holes in the current bucket pattern and instead of drilling 5 7/16" holes in that space drill a bunch of 1/8 holes. it would work fine.

i originally came up with the 7/16" holes for use with coco.

i'll be interested in how the smart pot idea works out.

later

 

[disciple]