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Paradise Ice Cream / 250W MH

Paradise Ice Cream / 250W MH

  • Paradise Durga Mata

    Votes: 7 10.9%
  • Paradise Nebula

    Votes: 16 25.0%
  • White Label Doublegum

    Votes: 7 10.9%
  • Mandala Satori

    Votes: 25 39.1%
  • Mandala Beyond the Brain

    Votes: 8 12.5%
  • Nirvana Full Moon

    Votes: 4 6.3%
  • Nirvana NYPD

    Votes: 5 7.8%
  • Homegrown Fantaseeds Afghani

    Votes: 2 3.1%
  • Homegrown Fantaseeds AC Diesel

    Votes: 2 3.1%
  • Paradise Dutch Dragon

    Votes: 8 12.5%

  • Total voters
    64

Gelado`

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I have a Paradise Ice Cream seedling that is a few days old and vegging under 20/4. I plan on cloning it to fill eight two gallon Smartpots in a mix of good, loose peat, coco, worm castings, perlite and even a little Hydroton. She's only a few days old now.

50% peat
35% coco
10% perlite
3% hydroton
2% worm castings

This grow will be entirely organic.

I know the Ice Cream has several phenotypes. If I get a good one, I'll keep her as a mom.

Setup is a 80 x 80 x 160cm tent. I am going to use a 250W, 4000K metal halide through veg and flowering, and I am supplementing with around 50W of plant-specific LED bulbs with 1W, 2W and 3W emitters in a variety of wavelengths.

This is a legal grow, but due to space and the fact I only need a little smoke for myself, I will be keeping it small.
 

Gelado`

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pH will be adjusted with white vinegar since my tap water is alkaline. I will be feeding them with a well-aerated tea of good organic amendments.
 

Gelado`

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She's doing her thing. I'm out of pot and won't harvest my first autoflowering AK for another month, so it's painful to watch those buds fatten up!
 

Gelado`

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I had two Paradise Durga Mata beans from '06 or '07 in the fridge. They only recently made it to the fridge and had been stored in a box in my bedroom for years. Not expecting much, but I put them on moist cotton wool in a ziplock bag and wet the cotton wool down. I'll add a little H2O2 to my spray bottle to keep the nasties at bay. Fingers crossed!
 

kushydayjob

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My 2 cents on Paradises' Ice Cream, at least from the phenos I've seen, they are REALLY light feeders! Which, because you're doing organic will invite less of a chance of burning, but wanted to let you know that they require very little else than just plain water...Expect medium, to slightly less than medium yields, but people absolutely LOVE the 50/50 buzz, and most comment on wonderful taste too. Good Luck
 

Gelado`

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Thanks, that's really good info and I will feed lightly (I usually do)! I'll work out what it is my mom wants once she's a little older. So far it's just worm castings, azomite and leonardite in the medium and she looks happy.
 

Gelado`

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As for the DMs, they are floating in dilute H2O2 solution with another autoflowering seed. The autoflower looks like it's just getting started on a tap root, and if so, I'll transplant it back into seed starting mix tomorrow. I figure letting the seeds float on the meniscus is better than letting them sink since they can get some air.
 

Gelado`

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The H2O2 appears to work a treat. My autoflowering seed and one of the DMs is already putting out a taproot in under 24 hours. The DMs are around seven years old!

I transplanted both to top quality seed starting mix and watered with fresh H2O2 solution. Here's hoping the other one pops and I get at least one female. If I get a male I will absolutely make a few dozen seeds or so. They'll have to veg for a good 80 days since the last autoflowering seed will need that long to flower and finish. By then I should have six Ice Cream clones in the tent and both DMs ready to go. :)

Just smoked some fan leaf from the autoflower that is furthest along. I defoliated a little yesterday to give the lower buds more light.
 

Gelado`

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My oldest autoflower. Around 45 days old and 9-10" tall (I packed more soil around the bottom few inches to help support it). Bud all the way from the cotyledons to the top! It's only been flowering for 18 days or so and is fattening up nicely. Lots of trichs and it smells great. I think she has around 5 weeks to go.

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Gelado`

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My little female smells like good cocoa and coffee; definitely some lovely terpenes at present. The bud is rock hard too. I have another two confirmed females in the tent that are just showing preflowers now, and two more that are unsexed.

The Ice Cream is doing very well. The first leaves were a little crinkly, but she's straightened out and is on her third leaf set.
 
I'd leave the hydroton out unless you have it at the bottom of the pot for drainage. I'd also take a look at some of the organic soil mixes like danny dankos, subcools super soil, or one of the recipies on here. I run a modified version of dankos organic. You need a lot more worm castings, some guano, some epsom salts all that. If you try to grow in the mix you described, you will have some major problems unless you are a nutrient genius.
 

Gelado`

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I will probably only use the hydroton on top, actually, as it slows evaporation in the Smartpots and stops soil/perlite from blowing around. I'll be incorporating rice husk charcoal too. I will be watering with teas using a variety of organic substances:

Worm castings
Fish meal with EMs and crab meal
High P Bat Guano
Kelp
Ebony Ash

I'll also be adding extra bennies to keep things moving along. :)
 

yesum

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I have a simple soil mix listed here in the soil section if you have any problems with yours. I grew out a Ice Cream and the $13 seed was a runt. Got like 3 joints out of it.
 

Gelado`

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Wow, well so far so good on the Ice Cream: she's growing rapidly and looks like she's loving the medium and Smartpot. :)

I think the medium and teas should work fine, no?
 

Gelado`

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One of the DMs and my last autoflowering seed both rotted, even though they were watered with H2O2 solution. I planted two good bagseeds from excellent indoor smoke in their places after a wash in H2O2. The seeds are several years old, but may just germ for me. The bud they came from was potent, had lots of crystals and a mellow high with no paranoia, and a fresh flavor with a hint of hash. Really good stuff.
 

Gelado`

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One of the DMs and my last autoflowering seed both rotted, even though they were wated with H2O2 solution. I planted two good bagseeds from excellent indoor smoke in their places after a wash in H2O2. The seeds are several years old, but may just germ for me. The bud they came from was potent, had lots of crystals and a mellow high with no paranoia, and a fresh flavor with a hint of hash. Really good stuff.

My math was wrong on my little female; she's been flowering for 27 days. She should hopefully be done by July 1st! Fortunately the largest, most vigorous plant from the pack is also a female. I'm hoping I get a vigorous male from my two unsexed seedlings as I'd like to make some more autoflowering AK seeds for future runs.

The Ice Cream is chugging right along and is working on its fourth node.
 

Gelado`

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Just took a branch off my largest, densest autoflowering AK female to attempt my first ever clone. Cut the stem with my pocketknife (razor sharp) and then stuck it in my mouth (I've heard this works). Removed a few leaves and then put it into moist seed starting mix, gave it a spraying down, and then put it in a bag that is partially open to allow for some air exchange, and stuck it above my lights. I'm not sure if it's going to work, but it's worth a shot. Incidentally this branch has a few pistils. Let's see if it takes!
 

Gelado`

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28 days of flowering on this auto today...she looks scrumptious. I'm out of bud, so I'm struggling here lol. Hopefully she grows considerably before it's time to take her down.

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Gelado`

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This is a female auto AK x Widow that showed sex about a week ago and she is growing rapidly. I think I've had a few runts in this pack, but this one is going to be a monster. She's the one I took the cutting from. 11" wide and around 4.5" tall and I swear she's growing 1/2" a day right now after a good feeding!

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My Paradise Ice Cream. 13 days old today. She got her first feed today; worm castings, rice husk ash, EMs, fish pellets with oyster shell (sorry, not crab meal) and bennies, high P bat guano and kelp. All shaken up well in a bottle of water to aerate it, and then a touch of vinegar to bring the pH down to 6.3. Those Smartpots sure dry out fast!

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After my last autoflowering seed and my DM didn't germ, I planted two good bagseed. I checked on one earlier and it has popped and I see healthy white on the inside. I hope it raises its head in a few days! The cutting looks good too and like it is going to root.
 

Gelado`

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Bought six packs of seeds this week...doh:

Homegrown Fantaseeds Afghani and AC Diesel
KC Brains KC-33
Paradise Allkush, Durga Mata and Nebula (all regular)

I still want Mandala Beyond the Brain and Satori, but who am I kidding, there are about a hundred strains I want! Need to get to work now to make up for all the money I've spent!
 

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