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bloyd

Well-known member
Veteran
Cannabiogen had destroyer left until a few months ago but I don't think it ships outside of Europe...

Maybe some grower has some extra seeds on the other side of the pond...In EEUU
Anything produced post Charlie isn't worth buying. The final destroyer release was a 1 to 1 mating with poor reviews. Destroyer phenos differed greatly through it's 20+yrs of releases.
 

Cannabrainer

Well-known member
Me too! 😁

I already got an answer from them:

(y)

Great people. Thanks @PandoraSeedBank and wish you all good for the future. Spread love and seeds! 🕊️

Anything produced post Charlie isn't worth buying. The final destroyer release was a 1 to 1 mating with poor reviews. Destroyer phenos differed greatly through it's 20+yrs of releases.
Luckily, we have stock from very early on as well as from the 2010s and early 2020s through Rafa. I believe that there are some real gems to be found from what I have seen.
 

led05

Chasing The Present
Dubi is a patholigical lier
Anyone in the know knows the bulk of his business began off the back of other vibes members, he was the original vibes pirate; then he pays Pennie’s on the dollar to small Spanish growers to make all his seeds, zero quality control, this has been going on since forever, I’m not sure he even grows anymore nor has for a long, very long time - prefers sipping on wine all day vs a spliff

You have to give him credit though for being a good businessman and running a successful business (very hard to do in any space & markets) but honesty goes a very long ways in my book and it’s not a piece of his character. I say this confidently from numerous friend’s interactions with him, they all share very similar stories dating back decades- he lies & deceits with impunity…

He deserves credit as a businessman & spreading seeds far & wide, that shouldn’t be taken away from him…

Peace
 
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Cannabrainer

Well-known member
Rafa said the current release is a 1 to 1 mating when asked. Reviews haven't been kind. I've not found anything good from cbg since Charlie left.
Half of the sources I have, and there are many more out there, are pre-current release. All I am saying is that enough diversity is still out there, not discounting the current version.
 

PandoraSeedBank

Well-known member
Boutique Breeder
You don't have to thank me, for me it is a great reward to see them grow in so many places and that you enjoy them and if you like them, keep them for the future and don't let them get lost.

That's my intention from the beginning.

With some photos I would be very grateful.

Within each variety, the best that was found was selected. There are obviously better varieties than others.

But I think each one is special and not what you normally see...

I await your opinions whether you like it or if it sucks.

Also say that with low numbers of seeds there is not much to choose from but it is what there is...
 

PandoraSeedBank

Well-known member
Boutique Breeder
Anyone in the know knows the bulk of his business began off the back of other vibes members, he was the original vibes pirate; then he pays Pennie’s on the dollar to small Spanish growers to make all his seeds, zero quality control, this has been going on since forever, I’m not sure he even grows anymore nor has for a long, very long time - prefers sipping on wine all day vs a spliff

You have to give him credit though for being a good businessman and running a successful business (very hard to do in any space & markets) but honesty goes a very long ways in my book and it’s not a piece of his character. I say this confidently from numerous friend’s interactions with him, they all share very similar stories dating back decades- he lies & deceits with impunity…

He deserves credit as a businessman & spreading seeds far & wide, that shouldn’t be taken away from him…

Peace
Almost all seed banks have people hired to make the seeds. Even cannabiogen had several people working.

It is almost impossible to have so many varieties without a lack of stock and release new ones every year.

The only one I know who was alone was Mario bellandi from original delicatessen.

I have been alone in this seed bank.

If you have many varieties, the easiest thing is to take friends or people from the forum and pay them one euro per seed and that way you can get the varieties you want.

But what sense does it have? If the best thing is to do it yourself and see, try, compare varieties...

But the vast majority only cares about money and we live in a fast world where new varieties have to be released every year. Everything fast, without love...

You make more money with a McDonald's than with an artisan burger.

And yes, many are just businessmen interested in money. Marketing and deception experts.

Let them give away all their varieties as I have done and many others if they are so interested in preservation.

Dubi will be happy to see im closed. What he doesn't know is that I win.
People see what Ace Seeds really is like and my seeds are spreading all over the world like I wanted.

Fuck the money, I'm not here to make money!
 

DesertRockStone

New member
Call it purism but I still prefer regular seeds over feminized seeds because I define gardening as an exciting adventure and my absolute passion. That was my grandmother's "fault". In 1997 I read Jack Herer's "The Emperor Wears No Clothes" and I fell in love with that plant. I'm a weird romantic. ;)
 

Guy Brush

Well-known member
ICMag Donor
Veteran
No and that is great. IMO if you ask for them, do at least a small seed increase for the community. That is what I plan to do. The genetics merit preservation work be done.
I don't even know if I am able to pay with those options they offer. No cash option at least.
 
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