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Ulysses

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That's a very attractive mutant, 3d! I hope you'll keep us updated on the progress of this one...

You may have inspired me to crack a few Flo x Panama I've gotten a hold of...

Adding some outgoing/socialness to the Floral side is a very popular and worthy idea...
 

rabid

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Yes, please keep us posted on the Panama crosses 3d. I reckon you might find a jewel in there.

Ulysses, do grow out that Flo x Panama amigo. I'm interested in that one myself :wink:
 
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charlie garcia

Hi farmerred,

hard to find clear response. Is hard as you have experimented. Some fulvic/humic acids and/or aminoacids baths may help to feed best possible root tips coming out and maybe give them energy enough to progress further.

Old seed case also tends to act like oxidated (excuse my english cant find correct words today) A slight presure on seed may help to crack shell a bit, or dismounting both seed case shells may help to embrion not to waste energy but only feed if possible to live.

Hope you can find more replies which can help you.
All best luck
 

Limeygreen

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I have found that if you have long nails and a very steady hand, with a clear head, you can get the ends of the shell with either nail and slowly and gently pry the seed coat off. It is risky and takes a lot of concentration imo but it can help. Another thing you could try is getting a nail file, file all the way around the edge of the seed, not all the way through but enough that it helps weaken the casing, then soak in warm water with some kelp extract or whatever you have around, maybe superthrive etc. After about 24 hours start the seeds how you normally would but the paper towel may be easier so that you can ensure the seed coat can be taken off if you are worried you wont see it in the soil.

To try and build on what charlie said with the acids another kind of acid you could try is gibberelic acid, then you put into a jar with an air stone attached to an air pump. Make sure there is not too much pressure in the jar or many bubbles that the seeds are bouncing all over the place. Once you see the roots cracking out you can put into an oxygenated jar with a very light nutrient solution. I haven't tried this nor do I have the rates on hand at the moment but I have heard, bear in mind it is heard not firsthand knowledge, that it works well.
 

Highlighter

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To try and build on what charlie said with the acids another kind of acid you could try is gibberelic acid, then you put into a jar with an air stone attached to an air pump. Make sure there is not too much pressure in the jar or many bubbles that the seeds are bouncing all over the place. Once you see the roots cracking out you can put into an oxygenated jar with a very light nutrient solution. I haven't tried this nor do I have the rates on hand at the moment but I have heard, bear in mind it is heard not firsthand knowledge, that it works well.
I haven't tried this either, but the way I heard it told by Steve Tuck, you should use ThriveAlive and DMSO, not gibberelic acid. :2cents:
 
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charlie garcia

Thanks for explaining more correctly amigos
Is very important to work them in clean area, and clean hands and tools to manipulate. Be careful with Giberelic! I wont recomemnd it either and much toxicity. Bit of kelp also may help.
 
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farmerred

Thanks all for the help. Some research on the acids mentioned and hopefully some results. I have so many of these tiny dark bastards it just might work. By the way that f-13 cross looks like some poison oak.
FR
 

dubi

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Thanks dubi! I will be sure to post my best pic here when they are done. I am playing with mutants so who knows what will come up. I know Panama will add some nice qualities for sure.

Here's a group shot of some of the f13 x panama. Notice how tall the plant on the right is compared to the rest? That was a Panama leaning seedling. I think the vigor came through...

Here's a pic of a f13 x panama mutant. The mutant plants come from the f13 side of things.

Good day 3dDream!

Yes, Panama adds lot of vigour, yield and potency to it's hybrids. F13 panama mutant looks very interesting, at least morphologically, it'd be great to develop a stealth camouflage plant with different appearance and leaf trait to classic marijuana look like wally's ducksfoot.
 

dubi

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Not sure if this is the appropriate place to post.....Please redirect me if necessary. I have thousands of very old Panama Red beans from my father who hasn't grown since the early 70's. He traveled to Panama around 1970 and collected these, then let them grow fairly wildly for a few yrs. The beans are from PR that was grown out at 39' N. Any tips on germing these would be greatly appreciated. I have tried several methods over the past couple years including scraping/soaking. After attempts on a few hundred of these I have seen a few taproots peak through only to die soon thereafter. The most luck I had was a combination of scraping the outer shell and a 2 day soak in avacado oil. When I was too young to know about cloning etc. one of these came up in my dad's old spot. It reached around 9 ft and eventually did turn red. This is the real deal but I doubt it can be resurected.
Farmerred

Good luck germinating them farmerred,

30-40 years is maybe too much to expect some germination but you have nothing to lose. If you are not finally succesful i'd recommend you to try our Panama, it's faster pure sativa panama version, highly worked, she has all the good traits that made so famous the old american red sativas. Sure you wont be dissapointed. Best wishes.
 

JoJoBean

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dubi....i was wondering how the panama does in the tropics 12* North where its 12/12 all the time and it goes straight into flowering?
How big does it get? Yield??
 

Raco

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it'd be great to develop a stealth camouflage plant with different appearance and leaf trait to classic marijuana

hehe...cobalt blue...i.e. :muahaha:

Outdoor Panama

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skunkape

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I got some Panama from ACE seeds... none of them germed... I'm bummed. not being negative, just wish I could grow it...
 
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