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Awesome I'll be following along. We grow in Thailand, but at the moment only indoor. But trying to imagine what the more kush like strains originated in has always been part of our thinking. To extract the best from them. So, so different. I looked up earlier that the average rainfall in the Chitral looks like this:

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For comparison rain in Summer in Thailand can be more like 1000mm, this year higher I think. - totally different yet compatible.

Remarkable plant.

Nick
We have another Listed variety from Hindu Kush, Tirah Valley.
Does well in Humid climate and tolerates well in the places like East coast. You can try that:
 

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Chitral selections will feature a range of top-performing expressions from the entire population, and this purple beauty will be part of the limited release. 🌿💜

What looked like ‘just leaves’ back in July has now transformed into one of the most compact flowering Purple Chitrali phenotypes. Its elephant-ear-like dark leaves provide shade to the main stem, which has an even deeper red hue. 🌱❤️

With lower branching and vertical growth typical of a Hindu Kush BLD variant, this plant brings terps reminiscent of fine perfume blended with a tropical fruit punch that fills the nostrils. 🍹✨


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This private garden patch has completely surprised us—what started off as seemingly ordinary has taken a U-turn in the best possible way. 🌿✨

What we once thought wasn’t worthy of selection has now finished flowering with a structure that’s nothing short of legendary. Even the aroma has shifted, subtly evolving into something unique.

The plant I’m holding had narrow, vertical growth and didn’t pack a punch at first, but now… it’s a showstopper. 🌸💎
 

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The shape of the leaves and the growth pattern are so familiar to me. I've trimmed nearly identical flowers countless times. I believe a lot of 'Purple Kush' and 'Indica' purple strains on the west coast of the USA are dominated by these type of genetics.

The other thing I notice, and what I look for in these wide leaf landrace strains, is the flower density. This cultivar has a chunkiness that I look for. It's not everything but yield is an important consideration and a dense flower will always weigh more than an airy one.
 

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The shape of the leaves and the growth pattern are so familiar to me. I've trimmed nearly identical flowers countless times. I believe a lot of 'Purple Kush' and 'Indica' purple strains on the west coast of the USA are dominated by these type of genetics.

The other thing I notice, and what I look for in these wide leaf landrace strains, is the flower density. This cultivar has a chunkiness that I look for. It's not everything but yield is an important consideration and a dense flower will always weigh more than an airy one.
Someone from the USA on the Instagram told me that would have been a beautiful weed if we could grow them seedless.
You are right, wide Leaf plants are much more compact in growth between the nodes which adds the weight in flower.
 

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Im glad the light was spoken about. Considering the light they recieve is why I would flower indicas indoors at 6 on 18 off. Sativa would be 8 on 16 off. Doing that with sativas now. They love it.
 

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The shape of the leaves and the growth pattern are so familiar to me. I've trimmed nearly identical flowers countless times. I believe a lot of 'Purple Kush' and 'Indica' purple strains on the west coast of the USA are dominated by these type of genetics.

The other thing I notice, and what I look for in these wide leaf landrace strains, is the flower density. This cultivar has a chunkiness that I look for. It's not everything but yield is an important consideration and a dense flower will always weigh more than an airy one.
For the grower or farmer, yes. The end user may not see weight and flower style as the best "selection practices" to breed towards. Quality of what's inside matters to the end user, which may mean selecting plants for their quality, not their quantity. Ever eaten one of those giant tasteless tomatoes from the grocery store? How does that compare to those little small heirloom tomatoes that old lady has in her garden? Delicious right? Is she breeding for weight? Nope. We need to keep this in mind. There is more to cannabis than THC and weight, like you said. Much more for us end users.
 
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Couldn’t resist sharing how legendary this Upper Chitral structure expression in photos. 🌿✨

Some may consider this plant truly unique, while others might disagree but there’s no denying its distinctive open/narrow structure, with calyxes arranged like pearls on the lower buds.🦪

The real highlight, though, is the primary flower. It’s loaded with trichomes, with an unmatched leaf-to-calyx ratio compared to the rest of the population. 💎 A beauty like no other!
 

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Couldn’t resist sharing how legendary this Upper Chitral structure expression in photos. 🌿✨

Some may consider this plant truly unique, while others might disagree but there’s no denying its distinctive open/narrow structure, with calyxes arranged like pearls on the lower buds.🦪

The real highlight, though, is the primary flower. It’s loaded with trichomes, with an unmatched leaf-to-calyx ratio compared to the rest of the population. 💎 A beauty like no other!
Is it the 25% Sativa that contributes to the form?
 

therevverend

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For the grower or farmer, yes. The end user may not see weight and flower style as the best "selection practices" to breed towards. Quality of what's inside matters to the end user, which may mean selecting plants for their quality, not their quantity. Ever eaten one of those giant tasteless tomatoes from the grocery store? How does that compare to those little small heirloom tomatoes that old lady has in her garden? Delicious right? Is she breeding for weight? Nope. We need to keep this in mind. There is more to cannabis than THC and weight, like you said. Much more for us end users.

You're saying because this plant produces dense potent flowers it's the ganja equivalent of a tomato sold in a chain grocery store? That's been selectively bred for long shelf life and ability to withstand damage after harvest? Couldn't disagree more...
 

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Now, I’d question why you’d jump to claim that the Chitral region’s contaminated with hemp. First off, we ought to remember that ‘hemp’ isn’t about some specific strain overtaking the region it’s defined by the purpose we put the plant to like for grain, seed oil, or fiber. I don’t see this as a case of 'hemp contamination' but more as a place with rich diversity of populations that include escaped domesticates, ancient wild types, and genuine domesticated cannabis landraces.

And about Skunk #1, well, that’s a highly refined line. Honestly, I’d be hard-pressed to believe it could survive out there with the local farmers, especially when they’re working with limited resources to tend their private gardens. There just isn’t anything solid backing up the idea of Skunk #1 or ‘hemp contamination’ taking over in such rugged conditions. That comment you posted doesn’t hold much water when you look at the facts.
Hermaphroditism. Contaminated with hemp and skunk#1 genetic marker. Pharmaceutical wins again.
 

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Now, I’d question why you’d jump to claim that the Chitral region’s contaminated with hemp.
Of course it is. Genetic testing will show this. Hadn't someone tested this already at phylos?

First off, we ought to remember that ‘hemp’ isn’t about some specific strain overtaking the region it’s defined by the purpose we put the plant to like for grain, seed oil, or fiber. I don’t see this as a case of 'hemp contamination' but more as a place with rich diversity of populations that include escaped domesticates, ancient wild types, and genuine domesticated cannabis landraces.
Hemp will move towards hemp. It's already happened in nepal. After 8 generations it has reverted back to entirely hemp. You can make baskets out of it. That's it.

And about Skunk #1, well, that’s a highly refined line. Honestly, I’d be hard-pressed to believe it could survive out there with the local farmers,
It's not about the Watson strain he calls skunk 1. It's about the genetic marker. I'm not saying their growing the GW pharm strain, but it's almost impossible to locate landrace strains not contaminated with hemp or the genetic marker, unless you are the people that take the seeds and samples before you order the crops burned, or you have managed to keep a strain going for 60 years... which is almost impossible under prohibition.

especially when they’re working with limited resources to tend their private gardens. There just isn’t anything solid backing up the idea of Skunk #1 or ‘hemp contamination’ taking over in such rugged conditions. That comment you posted doesn’t hold much water when you look at the facts.
Dude, multibillion dollar industries have no trouble wiping out genetics. Even in remote areas. Your strains never made it to phylos right? Or any other genetic testing?

Here is a shot from "Ace seeds" of their Chitrali. Notice the amount of hemp genetics. Next, the tower of green is a true landrace according to genetic testing. You see the difference there? No hemp, no skunk.

I'm not trying to cause trouble, I'm just saying there is a lot of common sense being overlooked if you think this is the same Chitrali seen today that was the legendary Chitrali. That ended in the early 70s. I'm really curious to what the genetic test would be. You should be too. Because if all that is contaminated slowly degrading, knowing about it is the first step to doing something about it. Even with the old genetics reintroduced... how long would it last? Farmers wouldn't burn it, but somebody in power will get paid to burn the crops. Crop burnings are a sure sign that outside interests have already been operating in the area, and they are known to be successful. The evidence can be found all over the world.
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RequiredUsername

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It could be a matter of vocabulary that is causing the problem.

What you call "rich diversity" is called an "amalgamation landrace" where a domesticated landrace is mixed with hemp and/or foreign genetics. Simply saying "Landrace" is an incomplete and misleading statement on what is growing there now. For some reason I was under the impression these were being discussed as a domesticated landrace.

I know it's sad, to be in the sandbox while looking at a bombed out palace from the war on drugs. But it is what it is. Ruins.
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