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If you're really worried you could split your flowering area in half and run half your wattage during 12 hours and the other half the next 12 hours. Also, you can supplement HIDs with flourescents. Cycle the HID off and on with a random digital timer but keep the flourescents on. Diesel fumes around neighbors is sketchy and I don't know if I would want to run them through a fan and filter or rely on ozone.
 

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But there is no household equipment that is 3000W(3 light setup) that turns on and off every 12 hours. Everyday, 12 months of the year. My cousin works for the hydro company and he said the info they get from the meters is amazing, but shitty for us!! If you have a grow, wether its 500W or 10,000W. They will know about it!! Only question is, is wether the power company just offers up this info to the popo, or does the popo have to request it? Thats what I like to know?!?
 

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If you're really worried you could split your flowering area in half and run half your wattage during 12 hours and the other half the next 12 hours. Also, you can supplement HIDs with flourescents. Cycle the HID off and on with a random digital timer but keep the flourescents on. Diesel fumes around neighbors is sketchy and I don't know if I would want to run them through a fan and filter or rely on ozone.

My cousin said doing the 12/12 flip thing is VERY noticeable with a smart meter. I already asked!!!:laughing: You would see the 2 spikes in power as one is coming off and one coming on. Before smart meters that may have helped, but now with smart meters it's very obvious if you try doing that!!!

A small 3 cylinder Diesel Engine isn't going to fill the whole fucking neighborhood with fumes, it's not a tractor trailer engine!!!

I'd just like to try to minimize even the small amount that it will be putting out!!
 

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3k is a tiny amount of power. esp if your other electric use is low. good luck man . never heard of anyone doing such a small grow with a genny. let us know how it works for ya
 

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Ones I'm looking at run at 60 decibels. I'll be placing it inside my garage, plus building a block wall dog house around it. Sound from the generator will not be noticed from outside the garage. Just need to do something with the fumes, doesn't even need to be completely eliminated as the generator will only run at night time....

I think that you had better go and listen to one of these generators run. I use a 6.5kw diesel generator which I believe was rated at 62db with the factory muffler. It is in an insulated enclosure in an insulated garage, I added a larger muffler, and the damn thing is noisy. I live in a very small, quiet town, and use it to back up my utility power so there is very little ambient noise when it's in use. It can easily be heard several houses away at night, possibly half a block. Perhaps if you live next to the freeway or in a busy city no one would notice, but certainly not if it is quiet. Additionally, I took the exhaust out high from my garage, about 10' off the ground, and if you get downwind of the exhaust plume it will make you want to puke. Good luck.
 

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3k is a tiny amount of power. esp if your other electric use is low. good luck man . never heard of anyone doing such a small grow with a genny. let us know how it works for ya

I'm doing a 3 K grow now, if I went threw the hassle of buying the Genny and batts it would most likely be a 5K grow growing 5 Monster trees each producing 3-4 pounds......
 
My cousin said doing the 12/12 flip thing is VERY noticeable with a smart meter. I already asked!!!:laughing: You would see the 2 spikes in power as one is coming off and one coming on. Before smart meters that may have helped, but now with smart meters it's very obvious if you try doing that!!!

A small 3 cylinder Diesel Engine isn't going to fill the whole fucking neighborhood with fumes, it's not a tractor trailer engine!!!

I'd just like to try to minimize even the small amount that it will be putting out!!

That's why I suggested having random spikes. A flourescent is enough light to maintain veg. Appliances such as central AC cycle on and off randomly. If you're afraid of production loss just use more watts during the on cycles. Ask your cousin if they can tell the difference between a HID firing up compared to your unit.
 

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I think that you had better go and listen to one of these generators run. I use a 6.5kw diesel generator which I believe was rated at 62db with the factory muffler. It is in an insulated enclosure in an insulated garage, I added a larger muffler, and the damn thing is noisy. I live in a very small, quiet town, and use it to back up my utility power so there is very little ambient noise when it's in use. It can easily be heard several houses away at night, perhaps half a block. Perhaps if you live next to the freeway or in a busy city no one would notice, but certainly not if it is quiet. Additionally, I took the exhaust out high from my garage, about 10' off the ground, and if you get downwind of the exhaust plume it will make you want to puke. Good luck.

My I ask what brand Genny you running? The Perkins 10KW and Yanmar 10KW I've listened to are pretty quiet! And they were running outside without any extra noise reduction. If I put those inside my garage, plus built a sound proof block wall dog house around it you'd never hear a thing!
 

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My I ask what brand Genny you running? The Perkins 10KW and Yanmar 10KW I've listened to are pretty quiet! And they were running outside without any extra noise reduction. If I put those inside my garage, plus built a sound proof block wall dog house around it you'd never hear a thing!

Mine is a Kubota, and it's a hell of a lot quieter than any Perkins or Yanmar that I've ever been around.
 

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That's why I suggested having random spikes. A flourescent is enough light to maintain veg. Appliances such as central AC cycle on and off randomly. If you're afraid of production loss just use more watts during the on cycles. Ask your cousin if they can tell the difference between a HID firing up compared to your unit.

flourescents are already in the plan for the veg room. 500W worth.
Random spikes? So what are you saying? Run the lights on for 4 hours, turn off for an hours. run them again for 3 hours, turn off for an hour and etc....?

Pretty sure you'd be going threw light $100-150 light bulbs every couple weeks, plus not sure how the plants would grow?
 

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maybe runn everything off a batt bank and skip the genny lol

Actually, this would be the ticket but it would be expensive as hell. Use the generator and the utility, or even just straight utility, at odd intervals to recharge the batteries.
 

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maybe runn everything off a batt bank and skip the genny lol

gunna have to charge the batts though, wich will take huge amps as well. If you really start looking into ways of tricking the power company its not as easy as it seems. If you have a battery charger running off the power grid and its drawing say 1000-2000W everyday for 24 hours, power company is going to come to your door and ask why there is that much power draw all the time, witch will then lead to an inspection witch will get you caught!
 

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Actually, this would be the ticket but it would be expensive as hell. Use the generator and the utility, or even just straight utility, at odd intervals to recharge the batteries.

thats's kind of my plan, looking into if a transfer switch can be setup to switch back and forth on a timer instead of a power loss signal??

If it can, run both utility power and Gen power to an invertor/charger for the battery's.

Then you could maybe run the generator for a 3-4 hours, utility power for 3-4 hours and gen power for 2-3 hours and then finish off with utility power..... Then I'm not running the generator as much
 

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Mine is a Kubota, and it's a hell of a lot quieter than any Perkins or Yanmar that I've ever been around.

were the Perkins or Yanmar you listened to the enclosed models? Cause the ones I listened to were pretty respectable and WAYYYY quiter than the Generac Natural Gas Backup generator that is attached to my house!!!!
 

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i have a large ozone unit in my home ,have had it for years ,i think its a health benifit if used correctly,to trick a smart meter reader not the meter its self ,is to use a flip flop where it switches the lamps not the ballest it just shows 24 hours of use of a certain wattage and amperage i would use magnetic ballest if at all possable,
 
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