Overgrowing the World.....

[frankenstein2]

Use greencure half strength on flowering plants to combat pm. Prolly have to use it once a week until harvest. I had to rescue a growroom that was overrun with pm, both In the flower room and the mother room. Eagle-20 works, and it works permanently. I would spray my mothers with it, and spray plants that are going into flower the first day of flowering and your pm problem will be gone. It takes e-20 about 60 days to be out of the plant, so I wouldn't spray them after the first day of flowering. It worked for me, and almost a year later I am pm free!!

 

[OvergrowDaWorld]

Got an answer...

Got an answer...

I read that high humidity favors PM growth,
while low humidity favors PM dispersal.
I had the perfect storm!

It was cold with very high humidity for a week, then its warm and very dry for a week after that. Thats the perfect friggin recipe for PM.
It was perfect to get it growing, then perfect for dispercing it. Ugggg!
I could've been growing mushrooms for Petes Sake!
Thats what happens when you unplug your environment computer. Oh well. Its fixed now, but the damage I think is done on the #3's.

 

[OldSchoolGreen]

I'm with Frankenstein on this one. My older buddy swears by Eagle-20 and has been pumping out high grade for awhile now. He only uses it in veg.
Sorry about the PM issue, man!

-Old School

 

[DamnUglyDogE]

I fought PM thru flowering with a Fat free milk/water 30/70 mix every 2-3 days and it went from on every plant to just a few nooks by the 2nd treatment and stayed controlled through out curing...

No effect on taste whats so ever and I only lost a minimal amount of bud...

Cheap/easy/effective... Just the way I like thangs...

Keep em green 2014

 

[OvergrowDaWorld]

Thank You Very Much Frankenstein, OldSchool, and Alien.
Its very little patches. Almost would miss them if you didnt look real hard.
I had 1 huge spot on my Cheesedog I seen when I harvested. I believe that spot infected everything else, pouring fiberous spores into the air. It was pretty much at budrot stage it was so bad. Its amazing how 1gram of infected bud in a back corner can just about ruin a whole grow.

ITS GETTING WORSE AND SPREADING!
I started to see some spots on my StrawDogshit #1's and #4's as well now. This grow is kickin my ass.

Fat free milk it is then. I had the hydro store guy tell me the buds can smell like rotten milk afterwards. I guess thats where the fat free milk comes into play? The ladies are on wk 5 out of 10, so if I can hold off the PM for 3 more weeks Ill be good to go.
Temps now:................... RH now:
76 day / 68 night .......... 40 day / 40 night
This should help keep it at bay? Or since it started to bloom and spread spores, will it continue to grow no matter what the temps/RH is?
Heres to good advice and PM free grows... :friends:

 

[OldSchoolGreen]

I would assume that keeping the temps and RH steady would help prevent the mold from spreading more but I am no expert. I read this thread awhile back when I was first learning about Eagle-20.
Check it out. I know it's geared more towards veg but it's just a good read because there is a lot of info getting thrown around about PM

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=161425


Alien Dawg seems to know what's up.. ha

-Old School

 

[OvergrowDaWorld]

Heres the JLB @ wk 4 flower ~

 

[MiMedGuy]

I fought PM and Won!

Keep temps above 95 degrees for 13hrs for three straight days. Bring back to normal temps at 86 degrees or below. Repeat in 3 days. Until gone. Make sure RH doesn't go above 50%. The 3 days is a rest period from the heat stress, PM takes around 3 light cycles and proper conditions to form so the cycle prevents the PM from being able to survive and reproduce. The heat kills the first round of spores and the cycle prevents new from starting.

I read a really good scientific report on PM and applied it to cannabis and it worked for me. I'll try to find it and post a link, it's a great read. I've tried everything, PM wash, green cure, milk, peroxide, bought eagle 20 but was too scared to use it, the list goes on. This is the only method that worked for me. Now I'm not saying this will work if you dont have the right conditions, it will only kill PM and not allow it to grow, it's up to the grower to keep the environment regulated to make sure it doesn't come back.

Blessings, MiMedGuy

 

[OvergrowDaWorld]

Thanx MedGuy. Im having serious computer issues right now on this site.
I used milk. It seems to be working.

 

[IGROWMYOWN]

Ogbiowar root and foliar work well on PM ...but I've heard milk works as well good luck overgrow I was going through a slight pm breakout some weeks back.

 

[Luminous Melody]

OVERGROW!!!

 

[OvergrowDaWorld]

The milk is working pretty good. I need to give them another dose tonight on 4 plants.
Its spotty. I may have to chop a few buds or plants, just incase, if they dont show improvement within 2 days.

Thank God I got all my 1gln plants t/p'ed into 3's. They were sooooo rootbound.
Ill be moving the Blueberry x SweetTooth male into the breeding chamber.
Im taking the cuts needed off the females and flipping them. The clones will be vegged for a week, then 2 of each will be put into the breeding chamber to make the new hybrids.

Ill be keeping cuts of the male ChemmyJones' and 21's for breeding purposes later on.
Im not keeping any StrawDogs'. There PM prone. Ill probably be keeping the ChemmyJones.
Im also seeing how the Quill, GasHog, StrawberryFuel, and the StrawlumbianShitBrick do, to decide which stays.

 

[RB26]

Sorry to hear about your problems. As others have stated E-20 works, and it works incredibly well. If you spray it once, you will not have PM. It is however, extremely toxic, so if you have a moral/ethical problem with that, you should probably stay away. It should be used as a last resort sort of thing.

Other things that work: SM-90, PH'd water, PM Wash, Sulfur Burning. With these less offensive measures, you will definitely need to lower your RH % below 60% at all times, possibly even more.

 

[OvergrowDaWorld]

Im not gonna put in any more plants until they are all harvested and the room is cleaned with bleach. I have a bunch of plants in 3gln pots that need to get flipped.
This grow, being my first perpetual harvest, really screwed me up. I actually wasted time doing perpetual, now that I have to wait to not do perpetual. Yes....it set me back 6 fucking wks!
So fucking stupid. PM! Ive never got it in my entire life until I DO PERPETUAL? wtf???!!??
Im adding a 1000W hps lamp so I have enough meds to get me through every 10 wks instead of running out w/ 4 weeks left on the grow.
Below is a sample of whats growing for the next run.

 

[OvergrowDaWorld]

GasHog = Cheesedog x Fuel

GrapeApe x OGKush

Chemical Blue = ChemD x (Blueberry x SweetTooth)

 

[BredForMeds]

wow that sucks a lot.. it happens to the best of us dude... I had to toss a bunch of clones and very good strains because of pm.. it seemed like it was gone.. then it would always resurface later down the road.

good luck.. but like it was said up top.. id pop some seeds.. or get new clones.. and tell anyone you might have traded clones with about the PM.

also. if u gotta deal with it. try to keep plants super healthy.. use protekt also.. it can help it stay on the DL and not running rampant.

also . using milk.. is great for veg.. but in flower it seems that it causes grey mold or botrytis from the milks proteins and sugars.

when I had it. it was very mild.. then I started spraying with a diluted milk spray.. and a few weeks later.. about a day or two before harvest. I lost 1/4th to grey mold.. it was a fucking mess..

had to tear down everything.. clean entire room. then I put my lights up.. and left my inline fans off.. and let the room go to like 100 degrees for 24 hours to kill anything that could be remaining in there. had the osc fans on high to blow it around .. I figured anything left could be tossed into the air and hopefully killed off..

basicly took a few precautions because I had to go without bud.. and money for about 45 days.. because my other room wasn't ready and I couldn't sell the bud knowing that I was fucking someone hard.

 

[BredForMeds]

and.. the cleaner u keep your room the better.. get rid of soil that's sitting in pots.. get rid of the fan leaves that are pulled off..

 

[paulo73]

Gutted for you Overgrow.
Imo that´s the worst thing with perpetuals, if shit hits the fan means having to start all from scratch. Another thing is that it´s much harder to keep the grow room spotless when there´s no stop in between runs.

 

[OvergrowDaWorld]

Thanx guys. Im pretty pissed about not being able to put my next wave in, but its for the better. I have 3 wks left till harvest so Ive been pulling off a bunch of tiny leaves with the pm on them. I flush em down the toilet.
Im gonna take the pm hit plants and do a H2o2 wash and rinse at harvest to get rid of any pm still lingering around. Its not bad at all. Just here and there. Ive been keeping up with it pretty good.
If the milk thing gives me more problems, like grey mold, Im gonna cry.
Actually...I'de dip my branches in H2o2 now and rinse them. I know I can after harvest. Can I do that now while flowering?

 

[BredForMeds]

and yes its tough to keep shit clean.. but ur best bet.. is to grab some totes.. toss your used soil into totes.. and save for outdoors or for seeds to start if u flushed it .. or even clones.. just make sure to give nutes..

but ya what I been doing.. is 1 spotless clean a month.. and every week I sweep.. pull fans.. a little dusting .. and it keeps my room clean.. it mite not be lab clean.. but its a lot cleaner then 80% of the dudes that grow on the net showing there pics..

also wen u clean ur Fans.. don't do it in ur room. the dust will go all over ur plants.. the dusting do with a wet cloth. so ur not getting dust all over everything.. and if needed cover the plants or remove them from the room.. I push to one side.. do side .. then push to other.. and do that side..

its allot of work.. but I haven't seen a single bug.. or mold . or pm or anything like that since I started cleaning the fuck out of everything. plus I put hepas on my intakes also.

and it doesn't take me long at all.. once a week takes 2 hours. and the 1 a month takes 4..