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Outdoors in California 2013

mendo420

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I appreciate that MENDO, I had a patient come help one time and couldn't believe that I really only do harvest the top 2/3 of the plant and turn the rest into other stuff or toss it. .


some times I just shake my head at what some people have to trim.
poor trimmers....

Not at my camp. popcorn is for the bears!
Speaking of bears. Its smokey looking for popcorn!

This is my favorite pic of the season so far.
 
whats your bug spraying schedule,and what do you use,i can see that its not your first time in the garden,great pro job ,have these heavy winds affected your plants at all,im in the bay area and the winds are ripping my plants apart...........great setup
 

furrywall11

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wOw, keepin' it real, Mendo. Not to get preachy or anything but, if I had a shit load of larf I might consider donating it to a totally non-profit organization that makes edibles/hash, etc. for now income patients...if such an organization exists. Just a thought that inspired me this moment.
 

mendo420

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whats your bug spraying schedule,and what do you use,i can see that its not your first time in the garden,great pro job ,have these heavy winds affected your plants at all,im in the bay area and the winds are ripping my plants apart...........great setup

azamax, pyganic and spinosid. i just follow the bottle's instructions.
i spray when needed.
The spinosid took out the thrips! love it

I may use some avid later. HAHAHAHA just kidding.:laughing:

ONLY organic here!:dance013:

These Japanese Beatles are bad this season.
wish i could get rid of them, they are doing some damage.

wind, phhhhhhh
yea its been windy.
the plants can take it
 

ozzieAI

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hey mendo...great grow

Neem Oil is something to help with your bugs...don't spray so much as add it to your water and let it work systemically...

The fact that the extracts can be taken up by plants (and thereby confer
protection from within) is one of neem's most interesting and potentially useful
features. As has been noted, however, the level of this systemic activity differs
from plant to plant and formulation to formulation. Extracts without oil, with a little
oil, and with much oil exhibit different levels of systemic action.

The systemic activity differs with the insect as well. It is not effective on
some aphids, for instance. They feed in phloem tissues, where (for reasons yet
unknown) the concentration of azadirachtin is very low. Phloem is the plant's
outermost layer of conductive tissues and insects such as these, whose mouthparts
cannot penetrate past it, are little affected by neem treatments. On the other hand,
leafhoppers and planthoppers, that feed at least half the time on the deeper layer of
conductive tissues (called the xylem), get knocked down.

Repellant effect – Neem has demonstrated its repellancy in trials against
many insects, including buffalo fly and ticks in cattle, ticks and lice in sheep,
mosquitos and sand-flies, human head lice, fleas and ticks on dogs, cats and all
domestic pets, insects parasitic against fruit, vegetable and broad acre crops such
as cotton and sugar and for the first time ever against the North Q’land Fruit
Sucking Moth. (DPI has tested it against this moth at Mareeba in North Q’land, & described it as a “cumulative repellant”)

Insecticidal effect – Neem kills insects by many different methods, the best
known of which is it’s anti-feedant action. Once dosed, insects can’t feed and thus
starve to death. However, Neem has many other activities against insects
disrupting or inhibiting development of eggs, larvae or pupae, preventing the
molting of larvae or nymphs, disrupting mating and sexual communication, repelling
larvae and adults, deterring females from laying eggs, sterilizing adults, poisoning
larvae and adults, feeding deterrent, blocking the ability to swallow by reducing the
motility of the gut preventing metamorphosis, thus preventing for example
mosquito wrigglers maturing into adults, inhibiting the formation of chitin, the
substance essential for the insect to form an exoskeleton (Ref. Australia DPI)

All leaf-eating insects are wiped out as are all insects actually coming into
contact with Neem. This huge array of insecticidal properties of Neem is thought to
be due to it’s adversely effecting the insects hormone system. If that is so then no
insect will be able to become immune, because it’s hormone system is essential for
every bodily function. Most significant, insects develop resistance in each
subsequent generation, and as insects dosed with Neem cannot breed, thus there
are no subsequent generations in which resistance can develop. (Ref. Australia DPI)

Is Neem Safe ? – Neem is safe for humans, animals, birds and fish, yet
deadly to most insects. (Ref. Australia DPI)

Exceptions are spiders, butterflies, bees, ladybirds etc, ie non-leaf eating
insects. Indians have been using Neem for hundreds of years – Mahatma Ghandi is
said to have regularly prepared and eaten Neem chutney – as oral hygiene and
dental care, fungicide, bactericide, small doses taken internally to treat malaria, to
control blood sugar in diabetes, consumed as Neem leaf tea; and the leaves and
seeds are eaten by sheep and cattle without any ill effects. (Ref. Australia DPI)
http://www.ublcorp.com/files/Biological_Insecticides.pdf

it works for keeping all leaf munching bugs off my outdoor plants...

good luck...
 

mendo420

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first off. I don't have root aphid.
Neem v Root Aphids (Neem WON): https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=258456
I call BullShit!!!!!
Neem will not get rid of Root Aphids. They drink that for breakfast.

Second

Azamax is Neem Oil I spray weekly and the Japanese Beatles could care less it seems.
Leaf hoppers are still around too.

I also added neem seed meal as an amendment. Maybe its not concentrated for the roots to uptake.
 

Hank Hemp

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What do you do about Jap. Beatles? Will these girls start stretching now that the days are shorting?
 

ozzieAI

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I call BullShit!!!!!Neem will not get rid of Root Aphids. They drink that for breakfast.
just trying to help...you can call whatever you like...but you got bugs and i don't. neem oil does work on RA but you have to boost the concentration to 12ml/litre

Azamax is Neem Oil
no it is derived from neem oil and doesn't have ALL the active ingredients that cold pressed neem oil has

i am not talking about spraying since the active parts of neem/azamax only last 24 hrs in the sun anyway. you are correct neem cake/meal added to the soil isn't enough

you got a heap of plants why not try it on one?

a lot of people are happy to poo, poo neem oil as a soil drench, and each and everyone of them have NEVER tried it...so are you willing to step up like i did?
 

mendo420

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I'm not worried about the Jap beatles they will be gone soon.
Same with the leaf hoppers.

The plants are huge they cant eat much.
 

minds_I

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Hello all,

Hey mendo, do you have spotted cucumber beetles and if so, are they are threat?



minds_I

Edit;: Well, it would seem after a few minutes of goggle they are a threat. I read that sinusoid and pyrethrums is an effective control.

I do not know yet whether or not their numbers are a problem yet to warrant action. I saw them last year as well but had a great harvest (though the weather contributed greatly) and if I do not see any significant increase in numbers or damage then I will likely let nature do its thing. The only proactive application I use is greencure to stave off PM and in the fall botrytis. At this point anyway, I would like to stay away from applying anything other than fish, alfalfa pellets, chicken/worm shit / molasses, kelp and some silica teas bubbled in a bucket for a few days.
 
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Noonin NorCal

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Hey Mendo what about Boxelder bugs they are crawling all over my backyard, my backyard is nothing but old soil laying around, those fucking things are all over the place babies to adults. I do have 5 G.S. outside im not sure if its those eating it and or crickets thats all i hear at night is the crickets
 
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