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GanjaRebelSeeds

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im having an issue with my plants and for the first time in my long career i really cant put my thumb on it.
its like my branches are peeling off the main stalk with very little force. they dont snap or break rather they are peeling off. when observing the peeled off branches they feel mushy and soft.

calling all outdoor growers i really need some help, i had a rough year last year and really need a solid year. i think its a root rot or some type of rotting going on.

any help would be appreciated , thanks yall.:woohoo::woohoo::comfort::moon:

Can you take a pic?
Is it the lower branches starting first?

If it's a root issue it's probably caused by overwatering or something in your soil.
Either way my suggestions are start using a biofungicide like actinovate. If your not already, look into brewing tea's and using them for foliar and a root drench to up your microbes.
Make sure your letting them dry out between waterings which I'm sure you already know.

It's very easy to overwater and causes a lot of problems. From a few pics I see some decent drainage from the bottoms of your pots. Probably a bit much for the size of the plants and their root mass. It's so easy to over do water when it starts getting real hot.

If it's a stalk rot it's not too late to reverse these issues. You can wipe the stalks where the branches are breaking or if the stalk is soft with some h202 to neutralize any issues at the open wound where the branch came off.

Last suggestion, get some supports on those girls. They look big and healthy and those heavy branches won't hold themselves up too much longer.

Hope your issue is no big deal and something you can fix. Gardens are looking great. Have a great summer.

edit. Use silica to sturdy the cell wall of your plants leaves and branches. It goes a long way on strains with weak branches.
 
My first guess would be stem rot but that's without seeing pics or knowing the specifics, are you seeing this problem on all the girls?? Is the problem located only on the mulched plants?? Is it only on the low branches closest to the soil?? Pics would be helpful!!
 

mofoo

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it peels right at the knubbs
 

GanjaRebelSeeds

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How many and what strains is it happening too? Looks normal on the inside of the stalk. I'd go with some of the ideas I listed above.
 

mofoo

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Can you take a pic?
Is it the lower branches starting first?

If it's a root issue it's probably caused by overwatering or something in your soil.
Either way my suggestions are start using a biofungicide like actinovate. If your not already, look into brewing tea's and using them for foliar and a root drench to up your microbes.
Make sure your letting them dry out between waterings which I'm sure you already know.

It's very easy to overwater and causes a lot of problems. From a few pics I see some decent drainage from the bottoms of your pots. Probably a bit much for the size of the plants and their root mass. It's so easy to over do water when it starts getting real hot.

If it's a stalk rot it's not too late to reverse these issues. You can wipe the stalks where the branches are breaking or if the stalk is soft with some h202 to neutralize any issues at the open wound where the branch came off.

Last suggestion, get some supports on those girls. They look big and healthy and those heavy branches won't hold themselves up too much longer.

Hope your issue is no big deal and something you can fix. Gardens are looking great. Have a great summer.

edit. Use silica to sturdy the cell wall of your plants leaves and branches. It goes a long way on strains with weak branches.

yeah man you are spot on i feel like i have been over looking this garden because i was trying to get everything up to par. now everythings looking better and this neeeds some love.

my plan of attack, let soil dry out a whole 24 hours longer making it 5 full days without water.

flushing with h202 a little kelp and water until i see drainage trying to remove any stagnant water/rid of pathogens.

let the soil dry out again 3-5 days.

feed with roots beneficials and resume progress.

what do you think bud?
 

mofoo

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How many and what strains is it happening too? Looks normal on the inside of the stalk. I'd go with some of the ideas I listed above.

alien orange cookies, and glue tech both with the ALIEN TECH as the parent from obsolute or Franchise genetics. the pine apple is very slightly doing this but not so drastic. also the cherry pie clones have no issues of this sort.
 
Honestly man I think they peeled off because there was stress put on the branches from being Blown around in normal wind without support, as you already know that spot where the branches meet up with the main stem is usually the weakest spot in most strains, there's alot of stress there.

I'm guessing the soft spot on the main branch U felt was the inside of the stalk itself (the exposed material where the wound is) and in some strains sometimes can have a cork like texture ime.

So judging from the pic I'm thinking that nothing is wrong except for where those particular branches meet the main stalk were already weak from normal wind ware and tare. That strain in this years particular conditions just happened to be weaker at those branch crotches. Get some support for those beauties!!
 
Just my opinion tho, your a hell of a solid grower and you got everything under control so I mean no disrespect by my comment. Just thought id jump in with my thoughts, keep kicking ass mofoo!!!
 

GanjaRebelSeeds

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yeah man you are spot on i feel like i have been over looking this garden because i was trying to get everything up to par. now everythings looking better and this neeeds some love.

my plan of attack, let soil dry out a whole 24 hours longer making it 5 full days without water.

flushing with h202 a little kelp and water until i see drainage trying to remove any stagnant water/rid of pathogens.

let the soil dry out again 3-5 days.

feed with roots beneficials and resume progress.

what do you think bud?

Sounds like a good plan except the flushing the soil with h202, it will kill all you good microbes. Wipe down the wound with the h202.

Get actinovate or look into biofugicides. That and feeding more microbes is your best bet at solving the problem if it is a soil pathogen issue.
It may just be heavy branches that need support, cage em up when you can.

Pro tek silica too. Foliar and root drench.

When they dry out, try giving them enough water to last 48 hours, 3-5 days is too long a wet cycle and could be the cause of this issue. You need to let you soil and roots get a little dry every 2-3 days.

Good luck, I'm sure you'll be fine, plants look great otherwise.
 

mofoo

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yeah 2 days is what i usually let my soil sit but with this dry ive been letting it sit longer also expecting the next "flush" to take a little longer to dry out until the plant gets going again but ineed that run off to ensure the pot is saturated with fresh oxygen yeah?
 

mofoo

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replaced these little fucks . so fucking ugly can't handle the heat gotta get the fuck out of the garden shitty genetics that alien\afgan so ugly
 

mofoo

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top garden is about 6 ft tall rockin much better sun up here 11 hrs direct sunlight vs 6 at the other garden.
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growing daily
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my girl munching on these medicated hot pockets.
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medicated bacon / turkey bacon and some gummies to keep me medicated thru the hot summer days.

how do i compare to your big plants OGS? shrews,mendo,sierra ,ganja rebel or anyone else??
 
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HorseMouth

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I agree that w/o lower branch support during crazy growth stretches you can and will get branches breaking from weight. Especially if the branches are growing more lateral then vertical.

Size of plants looks great, here's a pic from a GH of mine that's not Budding yet. Looks like we are on similar schedules.



And a raised bed of Ken's Cut GDP.




Great Job this year!

Peace
 

mofoo

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sour sunset (AJS Sour D x Cookiefam Sunset Sherbert) dna seeds

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Cherry Pie cut from DoubleJJ


alien orange cookies (alienOg tech x orange cookies(orangebudxcookies) franchise gen.
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1. aoc 2. pineapple trainwreck 3. sour sherbert
 

mofoo

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full shot of the house garden. planted an extra 5-6 cherry pie pots, ach pot has 3-4 in some empty pots i had filled up. doesnt really get thaat great of light in those spots. well see how they turn out. also just planted 5 in the gh area. curious to see how the july plants fair.
 

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