Origins Of The Species....by R.C.Clarke (Excellent Read)

[Raco]

Good read
But regarding the origins of the Haze....didn´t the Skunkman say that the 3 years timeframe was only someone´s dream?

 

[muddy waters]

Skunkman recently posted, if memory serves, that the common Haze Bros. legend is fictitious, and that the strain was developed mostly through growouts in various hippie communes (the name alludes me--Mother Earth?) in California in the 60's.

Furthermore this article says that Haze and Purple Haze were popular varieties in the 70's but the Hendrix single (if it really is referring to cannabis) is from 1967. Since Skunkman and R.C. Clarke are apparently buds I would love for them to get the story straight and publish something definitive about the origins of modern cannabis.

This article was a great read though, thanks for it Capt.

 

[PazVerdeRadical]

the origin of a specie can be sough under different syntaxes; here it seems we are talking about geographical origins, rather than ontological ones

 

[diggity]

Awesome, thanks

 

[Herbalistic]

Thank you CC fo rsharing this with everyone! I have this issue of CC and really like the article as "Harvesting the big one ton" also.. I re-read this article every now & then..

Ganico: The cannabis culture issue is #60 may/june 2006

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

Skunkman recently posted, if memory serves, that the common Haze Bros. legend is fictitious, and that the strain was developed mostly through growouts in various hippie communes (the name alludes me--Mother Earth?) in California in the 60's.

Furthermore this article says that Haze and Purple Haze were popular varieties in the 70's but the Hendrix single (if it really is referring to cannabis) is from 1967. Since Skunkman and R.C. Clarke are apparently buds I would love for them to get the story straight and publish something definitive about the origins of modern cannabis.

This article was a great read though, thanks for it Capt.

Wrong, I said the posts that claimed that Original Haze was developed in hippie communes was BS. RCC had it right except for OHaze had many males used, over many years, Colombian, Mex gold, O Haze, some Thai, a little S Indian.

-SamS

 

[Tom Hill]

Wghat the fook Sam? Will you let that shit stand as history? Do you realy believe that the sc crew had any more to do with it than my neighbors???

 

[Tom Hill]

I love you all though

 

[Guest]

sorry, this article was a very narrow view of the kind. Extremely narrow Rob. Mind numbingly narrow.

Ive seen quite a few statements from you that I would consider questionable, or narrow minded.

 

[Tom Hill]

Your right outlawed, I've been teetering on the abbiss for years now. What does that have to do with the price of bud in October? You got something on me you dissagree with? shoot bro, I'll take it in kind amigo.

 

[Guest]

Hi Tom,
I just find it interesting that so many members consider themselves "experts" and will openly challenge and at times even insult known experts in the field of marijuana. This is usually done in order to push themselves up, while of course at the expense of others. This type of attitude is all to prevalent, and at times disheartening to see. A lack of respect for those who came before us, and a willingness to preserve history whether it be genetic or historical is slowly losing its luster anymore.

An example of a statement from you that I find suspect would be.

Originally posted by TomHill-
One excellent example of road kill skunk can be had by crossing DC with the Northern Indian Indica that was past along to Zamalito & a few others. I have done this in the past and labeled it "Deep Skunk 9". Although the ds9 seeds that I past along here were in the absence of progeny testing & therefore certainly not the best example of it, you absolutely can get there via that avenue. The "fluffy structure" I've heard in describing the final product, imo, was mearly a sign of the times. Big bro had us deep under cover back then & all pounds were pretty much the size of the side of the barn back then due to shade growing. Indoor outdoor should not matter, the genetics certainly do though.

I dont even really feel an explanation for my problems with this statement is necassary, self explanatory really.


No hard feelings, but my ultimate point was how interesting it is for others to challenge known experts in the field when at the same time these same people state questionable/objectionable material themselves.

 

[Herbalistic]

Yeah, at least I understand what you are talking about "my weed is better than yours" Tom..

What got me thinking is: was this the whole article/writing published by Rob Clark, or was it squeezed into these pages we can read from CC

We really dont need any bad vibes based on things that happened decades ago, so it would be great if those who were there, did that, lived that, smelled & growed the early creating days of what become haze / haze´s would clarify this subject finally by writing a book, or thoroughly article about it

Im so bored of this whole haze controversy and Sam have to explain something about history of haze almost everyday WHY? If this whole depate can be cleared with one comprehensive book/article...

 

[Tom Hill]

Outlawed420,

Suspect? Here you have a man who is outright admitting failing as it happens. Some one who's shit DOES stink. At the same time I have gotten home via this avenue. I am a man same as you, & there are MANY flaws in your so called experts opinions, you are correct in assuming I do NOT take all of it as truth, do you? Why? What causes this? Cetrtainly not the smoke, lol. These insights may be of value to your so called experts who were writing books from over the fence of a 5 acre parcel in Santa Cruz. WTF do you know about it really? Lay it down. Do I hold the canna world in contempt? You bet your ass I do. Why not? Have you heard what they are laying down? lol..

 

[Chamba]

thought it was well written, informative and set the record straight for the average reader of mags like CC....

 

[Tom Hill]

Chamba, I thought it was a decent history of Dutch cannabis. Being so, a weak, small glimps of the cannabis scene far removed from the whole picture. I think the indica cannabis in Holland sucks ass & always has. Make no mistake, I'm not saying that all California Col, etc indica is different, but there are those that are- cerebral, thai like ghanis & pakis. I don't believe that many over there have even experienced let alone hung on to them. I believe the thinking is flawed, & if I'm an ass for who I refer to negatively then so be it. You question my footing but you stand no firmer than I. It's only an opinion you know.

 

[Chamba]

....I thought it was good general summary of recent seed strain history and origin ..

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

Wghat the fook Sam? Will you let that shit stand as history? Do you realy believe that the sc crew had any more to do with it than my neighbors???

Not sure what you are asking me Tom, if it is do I believe that the Original Haze was named and created by the SC crew, the Haze Bros, then sure I do believe it, hell I lived next door to R the primary Haze Bro most of the time he grew. I know it is true.

As for RCC being prejudiced against Indica and biased toward Sativa, sure he is, he is not stupid. He likes up, clear, speedy, psychedelic, with no ceiling, Cannabis. And to be honest it is much easier to find Sativas like that then Indicas. I personaly agree with RCC except I try not to judge the Cannabis preferences of others, I think there is room for all.
And as you may know I don't even smoke much bud anyway, I prefer resin. To me smoking bud is like sprinkling 10-20% resin on a hemp rope, why do it?
Resin is what we are after, I mean do you know anyone that smokes bud with no resin? Why not? Why smoke bud at all? Unless you have no choice.

-SamS

 

[joaquin386]

SamS

Do you have or want to share your method of doing your dry sift?

Thanks

 

[Chamba]

iiiiii

 

[Chamba]

re-hash this subject...