Original Haze hybrids and psychohaze phenotypes

[MAHA KALA]

another cross I made with thunk. Positronics NLHaze x Thaihazeskunk, grown by nhg:

 

[MAHA KALA]

positronics NLhaze

 

[Happy Times]

Can’t see pics, is it just me?

 

[Happy Times]

Hi,Maha I know what you tryin to say.

But i dont see things like that.this 50% 25% to me it makes no sense.

This cut of JH i very O.Haze yild is very low. Resin production is Like O.Haze even better,taste high and smell is the best i ever had very much Haze .
High is very Hazy much more psydelic and up up than 98'SSH or Core cut.
This cut of JH dont have commercial potency.
93-100 days and very low yild very picky plant with big strech.

But anybody who smokes it say that it has never smoked something stronger even people who smoke for years.
Are suprised by its potency and have to use years of expirence to not go white.
If you give it to non smokers or first timers it is like mushrooms to them.
They have real halucinations,like they think they pee in pants,
that someone is persecuting them...not for first timers to storng.

It cuts through every high like rasor blade
.I will recognize the smoke from this single pheno if i were given 10 joints in a blind test.
it is the most potent weed that i have ever smoked.
After a couple of hits i got that high, that i got some of the first time trying smoking marijuana. This was just that potent.

You are high for hours and pretty high from just one toke.
And yes high is very strong,dense and psydelic bit electric.

And ruins your night sleep with crazy dreams...not good before bed or at night.
And not for every day smoke to strong for this.

But if you look overal JH as lineage it is not much Haze maybe around 10% are hazy psydelic 1 in 10 seeds 1 in 20 for shure you will get one.

This is grail from 7 packs of JH.

Only one what I consider true JH.

And it is my favourite smoke,still havent seen anything better or close to it.

At first you get crazy euphoria and focus.
Which lots of unepirenced smokers forgot to breath and they go white.

All in all it is my PSYHO HAZE cut.

I couldn’t help but wonder- Sensi seed bank Jack Herer? Or other version?

and recent seed stock?

 

[Sub24ox7]

Can’t see pics, is it just me?

I don’t see them either.

 

[TheDarkStorm]

Hi there TDS
What I am looking for is real unhybridized Punto Rojo 80s, paraguayan 80s and lebanese 70s-80s. They seem to be all extinct, there were wars against these strains
We were talking about this at this post


I think what you guys do at latitude 50 trying to preserve or improve a pure tropical sativa is epic and against all odds. So probably Ohz is the best strain for latitude 50 but that is not the case in latitudes closer to the equator. And environment is certainly very important. I cant grow outdoors Titans Haze(Ohz x Skunk from Cultivators choice should be the same strain) but I can do it indoors on winter. Hybrids were not bred for my environment, landraces seem to do better outdoors than hybrids. Ohz males I had went intersex indoors. 18 out of 20 males went hermie and made seed. I am testing some of these seeds now to see what might do
I had colombian black with plenty of reports of intersex issues at latitude 50 but here they were sexually firm and happy. It is a matter of environment. In a free trade world where you could source your ganja from dispensaries all over the world, I probably wouldnt be growing

I think with Thunk might happen the same you explained happens with THH if you find trippy pheno and you cross it progeny will not be the same

I didnt have the purples you show, but one girl had some hues. I made F2s, I was told it is a rare strain
Thunk girl 2

And #3 is also a columnar girl with low productivity
Thunk 3 Top shot

Lower buds


Out of 3 Luang Prabang girls, 2 hermied outdoors
Laos male too. Laos Mango male made about 10-12 seeds too. Colombian Black males were firm. But I am suspecting they all make firm girl progeny. And males will probably carry this trait
Some comparison: VangVieng weed vs original hz
Luang prabang hermie girl left and original Seedsman Haze from pack(SMOH) right.

Super/BLB Laos left vs Johnny Hz x Golli Hz from MadMac right

This is the source of Luang Prabang. When I bought it I was hoping it would be from VangVieng but never expected it to be of exactly the same time I was going there. The local price for your bag of ganja enough for 5 days-one week was 20.000 kip. I never complained about the price. I spent more money trying to source these seeds than the money I spent in Laos smoking my ass off during 20 different visa runs on a 5 year period. I lost 60 seeds to customs and from the next 40, only 3 made it pass the mutancy dormant stage and out of them 2 hermies and the one in the previous post will be the first one I keep for one season to another
https://www.icmag.com/forum/talk-ab...s-on-a-motorbike-circa-2001-old-overgrow-post

Super Haze, I have a small pack of OT1Hz Green Haze I might try next season. But your report and others say it is washed down genetics. And probably it is so because it was kept indoors at latitude 50 under sodium lights. But genes might still be there so outcrossing it might improve it. The crosses of OT1 I tried I didnt like much, and now understanding it is washed down genetics I understand why I didnt like and thought was mild

There are some Paraguayans floating about.....not sure how good it is....some do look legit....with the south americans I couldn't find anything worth while like you an its been like that along time. I had more luck with some rare Brazilian lines that were still about till the end of the 90',s......I actually lost a realy good Brazilian not too long ago....unfortunately it was one I completely lost the genetics to all together....one of the most longest flowering lines ive ever seen....very strong but feel good happy weed..no paranioa..very long lasting too....good luck on your journey...hope you find the gems you seek..

apologies for being of topic...il let you guys return to the normal program.

 

[Dropped Cat]

Great thread, loads of fun to read, as I flower a thunk so I feel the connection.

Been flowering the same cut close to ten years, and have seeds from S1,
as well as crosses of her with White Rhino and Sensi star x nycd.

Micro style, so LST all the way, 15-16 weeks to finish. Black pepper pheno,
quick onset, sweat in the jar for a couple months, so good, a real treat.

The WR cross presents frankincense, clear, sublime with some body, very nice.

The S1 plant all catpiss, interesting smoke.

All your plants are stunning, and I congratulate you on your genetics and grow skills.

 

[CannaT]

I couldn’t help but wonder- Sensi seed bank Jack Herer? Or other version?

and recent seed stock?

It is Sensi Jack and it is only original Jack. Others are seeds called Jack Herer.

It is from last 4-5 years seed stock.

You have 4 tipes ''Haze'' phenos.

Lemon/woody/pepper-No incense.

Old NL5/haze pheno sandalwood,incense very big yild.

Fruty haze longest flowering 120+ days with no yild and no end of flower.

And this original Jack is smell like eucalyptus/menthol.
Calyx on calyx and very poor yild in bag it almost smell like burned camphor or something very exotic.

But to me its 85% o.haze 15% shiva skunk(SKxNL) like indicas in this cut give that power and introspection with o haze euphoric,psydelic

All phenos are very strong,but this menthol phenos is strongest pot you will ever smoke just as they say on Sensi description.

If you smoke OG or Chem after it you dont feel ther high at all. just you feel sleepy after 2 hours.

If you smoke it for days,you cant get high of any other strain.
Like when you high you think something is missing here.

Its one hit wonder ,you will smoke your self out of 0.3g as kite.
First toke and you are high as fuck.

When smoking headbanger after it you just feel good taste and nothing more. XD

But you need at least 5 pack to find it. Or 1 if you have luck.

This seed poping is like lottery.

XD.

But it cant be sell on commercial level,only to some rich people or those who want to pay more 4 quality.

93-98 days of flower with big strech 20cm clone to 130cm at end of flower and about 15-18 g on plant.

I will put pictures here when in flower.

But I havent smoked something what is better or something what is close to it.

 

[CannaT]

And when I look that Original Amnesia Haze which made hype around 2000's.

It is probably Jack Herer cuz my cut is closest to it I smoked since then.

Here is picture of that special Holland cut ''Nesel''.

Compare it to my cut.

Amnesia Haze original hype maker

Jack Herer pheno A.

Conclusion is if you want best herb in your life make selction on Jack Herer XD

 

[harvestreaper]

another cross I made with thunk. Positronics NLHaze x Thaihazeskunk, grown by nhg:

very good didnt know you made that cross to ...whats the diffrence with posi nl5 hz to sensis ? thatr f13v x haze sounds great to had some nice plants myself out of djs stuff crosssed to haze hybrids ..

 

[MAHA KALA]

very good didnt know you made that cross to ...whats the diffrence with posi nl5 hz to sensis ? thatr f13v x haze sounds great to had some nice plants myself out of djs stuff crosssed to haze hybrids ..

I dont know what is difference, if it was NL5haze from Nevil or Positronics made own NLhaze with haze19? I dont know

thanks. yes, I made that cross at 2008. when I was playing with thunk. I did try toms haze later and from that moment I grow toms haze and its hybrids. I cant thank enough to hazy lady, rasjano and mainly cbf, these people inspired me to grow toms haze.

I thought about that rare jack pheno and it is same story that happened to NL5haze. when it was first generation of seeds, you can find 3 keepers in one pack. now it is one keeper from 7 packs. I want that first generation seeds. that's why I grow toms haze crosses.

 

[harvestreaper]

I dont know what is difference, if it was NL5haze from Nevil or Positronics made own NLhaze with haze19? I dont know

thanks. yes, I made that cross at 2008. when I was playing with thunk. I did try toms haze later and from that moment I grow toms haze and its hybrids. I cant thank enough to hazy lady, rasjano and mainly cbf, these people inspired me to grow toms haze.

I thought about that rare jack pheno and it is same story that happened to NL5haze. when it was first generation of seeds, you can find 3 keepers in one pack. now it is one keeper from 7 packs. I want that first generation seeds. that's why I grow toms haze crosses.

very good you way ahead of me lol for sure its all about that hazebrid vigour

 

[MAHA KALA]

very good you way ahead of me lol for sure its all about that hazebrid vigour

hehe yes, my experimenting with hazehybrids has some history... I am opened into new things too. usually I am lucky and get some cut.

elanius gave me cut of simply irresistible - chimera seeds. very underrated I tell you guys. I would prefer it over those dutch classics. and it is NLhaze combination too probably. few times I smoked too big joint and I thought I could puke, but didnt some power in it. I dont keep it as it is not energetic enough for me, but if you want power and you want 1 keeper from 5 females, it is it... intoxicating aroma and powerful smoke hehehe

Year ago, i bought 5 pack of SI for small test and i must say this...the hype is real
The plants are very vigorous, healthy, even the stem rub in early vegetative state hold a promise of something special - strong combination of citrusy/spicy/woody/floral smell.
The plants varied in stretch, some 100-400% in my environment. There were 5 phenos, similar in structure but with different nose to them.

Pheno 1 - 100% stretch (the least of them) with bit more indica appearance and leafy buds. Strong citric smell with catpiss undertones, the high was freaky strong and soaring, sativa high that was euphoric, often triggering the uncontrollable laughter. I have often noticed people (and me hehe) having hard time to control themself, sometimes acting funny and weird. My friend smoked a joint before riding a bike...well, long story short, he fell of the bike and then vomited so you can imagine that it was not for the faint hearted earthlings. The next day we met, he looked at me seriously and ask "what the hell was that"
I must say i dont like the smell of this bud after its dry, it smells very strong and exactly like sour pickles. When i open the jar and put the nose to it...the smell...my whole face turn around really However the taste is pleasant, citric - perfume and very strong.

Pheno 2 - 200% stretch, great flower to leaf ratio, amazing citrus/orange smell and flavor and once its dried, it smells like lemon butter, absolutely amazing smell, love it. Very strong up high, euphoric and long lasting. Good yield.

Pheno 3 - 400% stretch, very sativa appearance, very thin leafs with little to no serration. Buds are sativa structure, foxtails and very resinous (as all the others phenos). This girl smells exactly like forest strawberries :-o its warm,sweet pleasant smell i want to eat the bud whole kind of smell. The high on this girl is special, not as strong as others, but very enjoyable, no body at all. Just pleasant up sativa high, no red eyes, no burnout, it feels "under the radar" so you can be functional in any social situation, unlike the first phenotype

Pheno 4 - This is the incense phenotype, very strong incense smell and taste and the incense is holding in the air after smoking. Very up high, creative, euphoric, active, pleasant, no paranoia..

Pheno 5 - This is the one i have decided to keep. Great vigor, rooting very fast, even in glass of water. It is stretching a lot, around 300% with sativa structure and buds. The smell of this girl in flower is kind of citrusy mix with incense background. But once its dried, the smell is amazingly complex. There is so much to it, hard to describe. Incense,citrus,floral mix, every time i squeeze the bud some new element of the smell appears and i find myself just smelling the bud for a good portion of time, such intoxicating smell. Cant get enough of it. The smoke make the room smell like a church.
The high of this girl is my favorite as well, very euphoric, up, soaring and pleasant, no elevated heartbeat (non of SI had this feature!) just great sativa high that is very strong but pleasant and last for a long time. What i find interesting is, i always feel a pressure in the forehead after smoking, it feels like the smoke have some positive effect on third eye expansion. I speculate this is the incense doing its work....
Its great companion for a lot of activities, very enjoyable high indeed. What i love about the SI in general, as mentioned already, that these are truly sativa plants, but the effect is very kind for the mind. I am able to smoke in the evening without it being racy and its not exhausting for the mind like a lot of sativas. It will leave you relaxed and ready for good sleep.

All in all, this is amazing creation by Chimera. I was surprised about those phenos actually, each of them was great and the smells... Great sativa dominant hybrid a must for any sativa lover. I have immediately bought another 20 seeds of this gem for later use.

 

[MAHA KALA]

I crossed SI with oaxacan genetics, which delivers livery incense smells... just for fun. when I posted it for first time, one guy asked me if it is Guerrero sativa

 

[MAHA KALA]

Great thread, loads of fun to read, as I flower a thunk so I feel the connection.

Been flowering the same cut close to ten years, and have seeds from S1,
as well as crosses of her with White Rhino and Sensi star x nycd.

Micro style, so LST all the way, 15-16 weeks to finish. Black pepper pheno,
quick onset, sweat in the jar for a couple months, so good, a real treat.

The WR cross presents frankincense, clear, sublime with some body, very nice.

The S1 plant all catpiss, interesting smoke.

All your plants are stunning, and I congratulate you on your genetics and grow skills.

thanks. love that pronounced pepper of it. like cracking extra quality fresh black pepper.

feel free to post pics of your attempts here. would love to see those S1s... catpiss!!! some guys are looking for it really hard.

https://www.icmag.com/forum/marijua...sible-haze-phenotype-history-of-catpiss/page5

cheers.

 

[MAHA KALA]

The way a classy antique shop might smell, old wool and leather, grandmas lightly perfumed lace doilies,
and the cloying notes of the long dead prostitute in an old cedar lined wooden chest.

Fresh cracked pepper too.

hehehe I got church smell too....

 

[star crash]

Do you guys like the structure?

 

[SUPER_HAZE]

It should be forbidden to grow these plants indoors.

 

[Dropped Cat]

It should be forbidden to grow these plants indoors.

https://www.icmag.com/filedata/fetch?photoid=17278849

I agree, but I flower her as best I can.

 

[Dropped Cat]

hehehe I got church smell too....

Ahhh, I see you have looked me up, very pleased.

I have flowered a couple phenos of Zamaldelica a few years ago, have you read my smoke report on her, I wonder.

Cannabis, after all these years, continues to amaze me.