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Original Diesel.

Dawgz_Daze

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Yeah man I mean no disrespect but you been posting the same veg pics of original Diesel since like 2013 and always say you will have some pics down the road but o can’t seem to find anything?? Can you not just post 1 flower pic of it flower?
Check this out. I will have some real pictures of side by sides of all these cuts. Been working on tracking them down and I'm about there. Anyone came across a Original Diesel that is variegated? Homie has held it down in CO since 06. Came from the Chem Fam. If you read the Cannabible series you will notice that the Sour Diesel and Original Diesel and Headband depicted are quite interesting. Especially since there is Diesel #1, Diesel #2, Diesel #7, and a Diesel #10.
 

Charles Dankens

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Plookerkingjon

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And that nice to see all the parents failings in society get access to an Internet site and lash out as an adult, anyway my suggestion to anyone that's in this and wants to take it seriously is avoid the hype avoid fancy pictures avoid all of these folks that know everything and contradict and question you and your opinion and you're wanting to know and learn they are the epitome of the cancer that is in our species that go out of their way to ruin anyone else's homeostasis of serenity it is what it is but avoid them it's a shame that threads like this can't be started almost in every site you see without some sort of drama. I wish you luck but I will warn you that a lot of the folks that claim to have this stuff claim to have chem 91 you go and meet him they say something stupid, ask rip off prices claiming they have something they don't , they get punched in the mouth and they act like victims
 

Plookerkingjon

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This thread was hijacked. It is about Original Diesel. Not seed company crosses, not ECSD, not AJSD and not original sour diesel. It was about Original Diesel, aka Weasel Diesel. I would have kept posting pics of Original D but I don't want to get into it with people who want to be the only ones to have it.
You can't tell if something is definitely a certain clone with pictures because cuts can change their looks over time in different situations. The smoke test would give a better answer.

A lot of the old time posters are gone, most of the "experts" now were nobodies back then. Stop being so quick to tell people they don't have something. Now nobody wants to post pics because of all the BS. It used to be nobody posted pics because they were paranoid about getting busted.
Without genetic testing nobody knows what anything really is. You take people at their word especially if they are just posting pics and not trying to sell any seeds or clones.
All this crap just keeps dividing us up.
I don't blame them for being paranoid, especially when you have people that act as if their intentions are sincere but are so inept they'll send some people grass not sealed properly get hemmed up by the federal government the post office and act like they're piss and excellence in life perspective isn't f***** up thing ain't it kids? I wonder how many of you would be thriving and holding your chin high sitting in federal prison
 

PlasmaTube

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On 12/22 I mixed 50/50 perlite and vermiculite as a cloning medium. These are roots from about 30 mins ago. Pretty happy, as I wasn't holding my breath on this.

Original Upstate Sour D aka Weasel Cut.


A quick shot of a specially selected Sour Diesel BX4. A gifted cut by a phriend. Per his description this one has the following qualities:

"Mom was dense looked much more like skunk. Tasted like sour. This now looks like sour and tastes like sour"

"It’s like a freshly opened can of racquetballs dipped in tart/sour with a eucalyptus finish"

Let's see what's these are about
 

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PlasmaTube

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Weasel cut and Albany week 3 of flower. Wife gave the early buds a good ol pincherony and said it smelled: lemony, piney, like weed

My wife doesn't do the weed, haha, so this is a very unbiased opinion.

Upon my pinch, I get where she's going. It has a clean/bright but mellow citrusy thing, with a lil tiny musk...and I mean tiny almost piney but not like a jack pine.

So far:

Albany is smaller and more expressive of issues. Besides that the smell is the same as the Weasel. Sensitive to higher humidity swing I had for 2 days straight, with droopy and saggy leaves that bounced back with tent adjustment. The Weasel didn't show those issues.

Weasel is larger, is a good feeder that shows slight discoloration when it's time to drink again. The pics attached show her hours before getting tea. Giving tea later tonight. Healthy roots, branches, and leaves. No crazy issues. Glad I have a rooted cut of this. Going to give it another go after this one is done. Tent full of Africans. ..will add this cut

Weasel followed by the Albany

More to come
 

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Ralph W. Llama

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Check this out. I will have some real pictures of side by sides of all these cuts. Been working on tracking them down and I'm about there. Anyone came across a Original Diesel that is variegated? Homie has held it down in CO since 06. Came from the Chem Fam. If you read the Cannabible series you will notice that the Sour Diesel and Original Diesel and Headband depicted are quite interesting. Especially since there is Diesel #1, Diesel #2, Diesel #7, and a Diesel #10.
The #1, 2, 7, 10 that Jason King included in the Cannabible series were probably selfed offspring. Original Diesel is distinct and earlier than those others.
 

Dawgz_Daze

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The #1, 2, 7, 10 that Jason King included in the Cannabible series were probably selfed offspring. Original Diesel is distinct and earlier than those others

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this vendor on strainly has the biggest and best verified clone list ive ever seen. like a wiishlist for me when i started growin. all of the best bud available was clone only obviously and finding somewhere to buy clones was a longshot pipe dream in the early 2000s. my boy was bringing back jars of from ny especially after the big haze guys went down.
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rezs cut he used for his lines i think is a slightly different pheno still considered best too .seems to favor the original diesel mom then the albany a little easier to grow. anyway the one constant is that original diesel is the female for sour.
there are multiple names/phenos for original diesel, headband, daywrecker(chem91 been said to also sell under name diesel instead of chem . in sour the combination of this diesel diversity mixing with the hawaiian frosty kind bud created that wonderful dour. we can say for sure one of the chems is a parent in original diesel. since it was a herm mating there must have been alot of the first gen sour seeds to grow out.
beyond that i wasnt there, digging deeper in to the cannabinoid/terpene profile could highlight some highly informative outlier/variation. mycerene content variablity one of if not the most discriminating factor for effect between chemotype phenos. we seen that at piffcon results. also, plants have 1 synthase creates only mycerene and another which results in mycerene and ocimene at a specific ratio. a mating which progeny had both synthases results in couchlock and homogenization of short duration effect. while an f1 hybrid throws ocimene or not probly has long lasting results on the profile.
minor cannabinoids are also very useful to discriminate between phenotypes and genotypes too. thcv has highest in north/south east india and feral sativa thru ne india to nepal then golden triangle. while se asia,south china have very high cbc and many also carry cannabigerol monomethyl ether which is very high in korean and japaense lines, and some haze lines.

other plants involved0 chem91 skva

and bottom pic is some kind of skunk x diesel gifted by weasels son? View attachment 18749286
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Are those bottom flower shots the Skunk Diesel? I got that Skunk Diesel and I got Cloney's Upstate Sour cut too.
 

Dawgz_Daze

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Here some more Fuel to add to the fire, haters welcome.

1.When AJ come to Europe Spain and tried the Original Diesel cut we hold( not grown by me) he said it was better than his own cut.

2. When Rezdog from Reservoir seeds come to UK to meet me about a seed project i was doing for him , i brought him a jar of the Original Diesel buds to try and to see if he thought it was legit Sour Diesel for me to use the clone to make a Sour Diesel IBL project for him( wasnt first Sd IBL project Rez released was maybe last SD IBL he released or 2nd to last) and he said it was good to use.


Also closest looking pic of our Original Diesel clone we hold is a pic someone posted on page 4 of this thread of Notsodogs Diesel clone ( although his is a tad more foxtailed but exact same leaves and flower look and fade , exactly the same and closest ive ever seen to our Original Diesel clone we use.

You can even see the extrem similarity of my Chem d wrecker 1 clone i posted on page 2 of this thread to the notsodog pic of Original Diesel someone posted on page 4
You are absolutely trippin bro. Your "Original Diesel" that you rarely ever show pictures of looks nothing like the LA Kush Headband. Which was not ever called Original Diesel anyway from everything I have been able to find
 

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You are absolutely trippin bro. Your "Original Diesel" that you rarely ever show pictures of looks nothing like the LA Kush Headband. Which was not ever called Original Diesel anyway from everything I have been able to find



Our OriginalDiesel cut is and has never been known as the La KUSH Headband ?.


Our cut we use was verified by JJ from topdawg seeds when he tried it in Europe ?

Anything ive mentioned about our cut we hold is true
 

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You are absolutely trippin bro. Your "Original Diesel" that you rarely ever show pictures of looks nothing like the LA Kush Headband. Which was not ever called Original Diesel anyway from everything I have been able to find















Our cut is tired after all these years hence doing and releasing the Original Diesel S1 project thats why i don't post it much or even use it for flower , i only use it for seed runs .
 

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You are absolutely trippin bro. Your "Original Diesel" that you rarely ever show pictures of looks nothing like the LA Kush Headband. Which was not ever called Original Diesel anyway from everything I have been able to find















I got some big projects this year with this cut we hold so you will see alot more of this cut posted this year , but to be honest our 3 Original Diesel S1 keepers have come out as good or better than the cut we hold as they as good as our cut but vigour has been restored.



Flowers of our Original Diesel S1 and Chem d Wrecker selections will be available at a top coffeshop in Amsterdam for every to try later in the year
 

Killahbeez

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So.. in your opinion, the chem91 has an insane stench and the original diesel is on par with it? Not trying to step on toes but that isn’t what I found in the chem91 at all. No stench out of the ordinary. Probably the most overrated plant in existence imo. Good stone to it but again, nothing out the ordinary.
The 91 can come out lacking in flavor and stench, but is always potent. Part of the problem is folks chop her around 63 days. Take the 91 to 75-80 days add Epsom salt weeks 3-7 and see if that changes it. I was disappointed my first run with her after a few runs and longer flower times she is super loud skunky, gassy. Rubber deep dank funk.
 
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