Original Diesel.

[Dawgz_Daze]

I talked to melty about it on IG. I’m not gonna sit here and post private conversations that’s just lame. Take it or leave it I do not care. You always show up on Original Diesel threads talking shit and going way off topic of what the posts are about. I came here to document some grows, crosses, reversals, etc with Original Diesel. You cannot even show a picture of a flowering plant. So my bad if I got doubts. Age has nothing to do with this. Go ahead and discredit me because I’m 25. It’s irrelevant. Most of the info I got is easily attainable. Some of it maybe not so much but all you gotta do is not be a dick and ask around. Talk to the people that were there. It’s amazing what you can learn with a little kindness and a good attitude.

 

[Dawgz_Daze]

So far I got a Daywrecker, 96 Original Diesel(the one I believe is underdog), the LA Kush Headband, Albany Sour D, Sour D from my family sourced in 2011, Hunter Mountain ECSD, all in flower. I’m waiting for the Amish, Skunktek, and a couple others to add to the side by side as well. I’ve also got the 56 day Headband going, Giesel, Chemdog91, and two Chem D’s going as well. It’s damn near impossible to speculate on this stuff from just pictures, stories, and forum threads. I think growing em all out side by side is the funnest and one of the most informative ways to go about it. I have definitely learned a few things already from growing all these. Humbled me for damn sure too trying to tame all these old picky OG’s and Sours. It’s been an all around awesome experience and it’s only just the beginning. I’m really looking forward to running the hybrids from them all with the same pollen donor to see the difference in the progeny.

 

[ojd]

So far I got a Daywrecker, 96 Original Diesel(the one I believe is underdog), the LA Kush Headband, Albany Sour D, Sour D from my family sourced in 2011, Hunter Mountain ECSD, all in flower. I’m waiting for the Amish, Skunktek, and a couple others to add to the side by side as well. I’ve also got the 56 day Headband going, Giesel, Chemdog91, and two Chem D’s going as well. It’s damn near impossible to speculate on this stuff from just pictures, stories, and forum threads. I think growing em all out side by side is the funnest and one of the most informative ways to go about it. I have definitely learned a few things already from growing all these. Humbled me for damn sure too trying to tame all these old picky OG’s and Sours. It’s been an all around awesome experience and it’s only just the beginning. I’m really looking forward to running the hybrids from them all with the same pollen donor to see the difference in the progeny.

Age is nothing to do with it.
I'm glad your having fun on the Diesel train but stop trying to educate me or involve me , I can read like everyone else and don't need you trying to School me on the Diesel.
Like I said several times Meltingpot sent me a cut of Diesel many years ago and I've run or smoked the most legit cuts out there .
My crew been all over the Diesel storys strains for last 20 years and don't need you trying to School me on it.

Looks a fun project but stop trying to think you got to the bottom of the Diesel stroy as there are multiple accounts, versions from different people involved in the Diesel story and we will never find out every detail and there are many versions of , story's , bagseed,stretched truth , lies etc etc that make it impossible to piece every part of the puzzle together.

 

[ojd]

I talked to melty about it on IG. I’m not gonna sit here and post private conversations that’s just lame. Take it or leave it I do not care. You always show up on Original Diesel threads talking shit and going way off topic of what the posts are about. I came here to document some grows, crosses, reversals, etc with Original Diesel. You cannot even show a picture of a flowering plant. So my bad if I got doubts. Age has nothing to do with this. Go ahead and discredit me because I’m 25. It’s irrelevant. Most of the info I got is easily attainable. Some of it maybe not so much but all you gotta do is not be a dick and ask around. Talk to the people that were there. It’s amazing what you can learn with a little kindness and a good attitude.

Why can't you post what he said ? , private conversations .

The only part I needed confirmed was Meltingpot sent me his ecsd cut around 12 years ago, I don't need anything else confirmed

 

[Dawgz_Daze]

Age is nothing to do with it.
I'm glad your having fun on the Diesel train but stop trying to educate me or involve me , I can read like everyone else and don't need you trying to School me on the Diesel.
Like I said several times Meltingpot sent me a cut of Diesel many years ago and I've run or smoked the most legit cuts out there .
My crew been all over the Diesel storys strains for last 20 years and don't need you trying to School me on it.

Looks a fun project but stop trying to think you got to the bottom of the Diesel stroy as there are multiple accounts, versions from different people involved in the Diesel story and we will never find out every detail and there are many versions of , story's , bagseed,stretched truth , lies etc etc that make it impossible to piece every part of the puzzle together.

I'm not trying to school you on anything. I'm also far from getting to the bottom of anything. There has however been some recent info that has came to light and the Diesel story is forever still evolving. We obviously disagree which is fine. Agree to disagree. Maybe just stop coming in here just to disagree with me then. Your not contributing much to the post besides bullshit at this point. People would love to see some pictures or grow reports but you literally just come here to argue. Its cool you got A Original Diesel clone, but its definitely not THE Original Diesel. I'm sorry that seems to not jive with you, but you said yourself this story is a clusterfuck and there is no way to know certainties. Coming to me with bullshit because I am actually willing to grow all these old cuts out myself side by side and try to make some opinions is childish. There is little to no solid info or grow reports on the Original Diesel cuts. It would be nice to get grow reports and pictures of side by sides with all of them. I will gather the history about them as best as I can but the herb is what is most important too me. I'm working on getting S1's and some hybrids made to run through. Some are absolutely the same cut renamed but a lot of them are not. I think running S1 populations will show that absolutely. I have no beef with you. Just stop shit posting in the Original Diesel threads please.

 

[ojd]

I'm not trying to school you on anything. I'm also far from getting to the bottom of anything. There has however been some recent info that has came to light and the Diesel story is forever still evolving. We obviously disagree which is fine. Agree to disagree. Maybe just stop coming in here just to disagree with me then. Your not contributing much to the post besides bullshit at this point. People would love to see some pictures or grow reports but you literally just come here to argue. Its cool you got A Original Diesel clone, but its definitely not THE Original Diesel. I'm sorry that seems to not jive with you, but you said yourself this story is a clusterfuck and there is no way to know certainties. Coming to me with bullshit because I am actually willing to grow all these old cuts out myself side by side and try to make some opinions is childish. There is little to no solid info or grow reports on the Original Diesel cuts. It would be nice to get grow reports and pictures of side by sides with all of them. I will gather the history about them as best as I can but the herb is what is most important too me. I'm working on getting S1's and some hybrids made to run through. Some are absolutely the same cut renamed but a lot of them are not. I think running S1 populations will show that absolutely. I have no beef with you. Just stop shit posting in the Original Diesel threads please.

You ignore anything you don't want to hear lol

Like has been said many MANY MANY TIMES. when jj from topdawg come to Europe he sampled this Original Diesel cut I work with and stated it was the Original Diesel clone , end off.

Go argue with topdawg or send him over to me as he already follows me on instagram and also did at my old account where I logged the whole Original Diesel clone only Feminized project from start to finish

 

[ojd]

I'm not trying to school you on anything. I'm also far from getting to the bottom of anything. There has however been some recent info that has came to light and the Diesel story is forever still evolving. We obviously disagree which is fine. Agree to disagree. Maybe just stop coming in here just to disagree with me then. Your not contributing much to the post besides bullshit at this point. People would love to see some pictures or grow reports but you literally just come here to argue. Its cool you got A Original Diesel clone, but its definitely not THE Original Diesel. I'm sorry that seems to not jive with you, but you said yourself this story is a clusterfuck and there is no way to know certainties. Coming to me with bullshit because I am actually willing to grow all these old cuts out myself side by side and try to make some opinions is childish. There is little to no solid info or grow reports on the Original Diesel cuts. It would be nice to get grow reports and pictures of side by sides with all of them. I will gather the history about them as best as I can but the herb is what is most important too me. I'm working on getting S1's and some hybrids made to run through. Some are absolutely the same cut renamed but a lot of them are not. I think running S1 populations will show that absolutely. I have no beef with you. Just stop shit posting in the Original Diesel threads please.

Exactly, your own words ( you far from getting to the bottom of it) alot of us did this same thing a decade ago when looking into the Diesel story and around you will go

 

[ojd]

I've made alot of Diesel X's over the years and know the Diesel family well.
I'm 1 of the only people who have done Feminized projects with legit Diesel cuts also so also learned alot by that to , especially the Original Diesel Feminized project

 

[luposolitario]

I've made alot of Diesel X's over the years and know the Diesel family well.
I'm 1 of the only people who have done Feminized projects with legit Diesel cuts also so also learned alot by that to , especially the Original Diesel Feminized project

no regular intent on original d? best regards

 

[Dawgz_Daze]

I've made alot of Diesel X's over the years and know the Diesel family well.
I'm 1 of the only people who have done Feminized projects with legit Diesel cuts also so also learned alot by that to , especially the Original Diesel Feminized project

I feel ya man, and I mean no disrespect to the work you have done. Its really just in the last few years that people are realizing a lot of these cuts are in fact different, and people are trying to trace some back to the origin which is not really happening. A lot of them though surprisingly go back to at least 1999-2001. I was really excited by that notion, and I wanted to experience all these different variations of Diesel.

 

[Rgd]

this is starting to sound like a haze thread ,

or a cheese thread..its like one off those star trek episodes [the red hour].."Landrau knows"

besides..

the first ECSD photo’s that were on the web did not look like these shorter plants attached to

named rock stars and wanna be rockstars

it was a tall branchy almost sativa looking plant that is more memorable in the high dept and yielded better

but had a propensity to become intersex

no more here from me..but this is just a fyi

and half of what I say is for humour..but it looks like another attempt to rewrite history

that said:

the sour diesel I just grew from old OJD seed was an excellent plant and he deserves credit

 

[Dawgz_Daze]

I wouldn't say I'm rewriting history. I'm taking information thats already out there and documenting it in the thread along with some grows. The history was quite shaky as is, so its not surprising at all that new information is coming to light. A lot of what I have gathered comes from people like Sour Silicate, Swell, the Weasel, etc. Even the people directly involved that popped the seeds and sold the weed have still been piecing this together and learning new information. Its an ever evolving story. Sticking to the old "story" like its gospel and being threatened by any new information is not really a good way to go about it. I really could care less if anyone disagrees with me. I'm doing this for my own reasons, and people disagree thats just life. It should not cause bullshit drama to share this information and some grow reports with all these plants. People may not like it, they may have a different story they are sticking too cause its important to them for various reasons. There is really no reason for people to get upset about it like they are though.

 

[TheDarkStorm]

You ignore anything you don't want to hear lol

Like has been said many MANY MANY TIMES. when jj from topdawg come to Europe he sampled this Original Diesel cut I work with and stated it was the Original Diesel clone , end off.

Go argue with topdawg or send him over to me as he already follows me on instagram and also did at my old account where I logged the whole Original Diesel clone only Feminized project from start to finish

I wouldn't wory about it ojd....most people seem to have lost original clones or have replaced them with hybrids and different plants...so now the stories have to change to legitimize new plants....those who have tried that clone already know the score....ive seen many progeny from it ..some give out those tall sativa looking plants like their was pictures of back in the day....that clone was one of those that was alway kept in the background and was highly guarded at one point....I can easily see it being the original diesel that gave rise to the others....its full on diesel with no give to the taste and high what so ever.....I dont think none of the other clones even come close.

 

[Dawgz_Daze]

You ignore anything you don't want to hear lol

Like has been said many MANY MANY TIMES. when jj from topdawg come to Europe he sampled this Original Diesel cut I work with and stated it was the Original Diesel clone , end off.

Go argue with topdawg or send him over to me as he already follows me on instagram and also did at my old account where I logged the whole Original Diesel clone only Feminized project from start to finish

Nobody knows what "The Original Diesel" is. The very first Original Diesel is just Chemdog 91. "Original Diesel" is slang brought up to describe specific cuts. There is several Original Diesel cuts that go around. Thats my point. You got A Original Diesel but not THE Original Diesel cause nobody has THE Original Diesel. If they do nobody knows it. People from the Sour crew are actively searching for Diesel #2 to connect those dots. There is several people with cuts claiming to be Diesel #2 aka the mom to the Sour D cut Manny popped in 96 from the seeds labeled "Our Diesel". Nobody with these cuts has been willing to send flower or a cut back to the only people that truly can identify the Diesel #2. I am actually working on doing that myself. I was surprised to find out the dudes who popped Diesel #1 and Diesel #2 have not gotten passed a cut of the Daywrecker, Original Diesel, etc People seem to like being able to speculate and make they're own version of things more so than getting legitimate answers from some of the people that were there.

 

[Dawgz_Daze]

Oh boy I see why a lotta the OG's left this forum lol

 

[TheDarkStorm]

Oh boy I see why a lotta the OG's left this forum lol

Have you smoked that clone, or seen it grow in different conditions.....or seen multiple progeny from it ? Simple question...

 

[Dawgz_Daze]

Less talk

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I agree. Less talk. More plants.

 

[Dawgz_Daze]

Have you smoked that clone, or seen it grow in different conditions.....or seen multiple progeny from it ? Simple question...

Which one?

 

[Dawgz_Daze]

Have you smoked that clone, or seen it grow in different conditions.....or seen multiple progeny from it ? Simple question...

Some of them yes, but thats literally what I am in the process of doing and documenting it here. I am working some projects to get some S1 progeny to run out from each of them. I am also gonna run hybrids from the same pollen donor and see how those come out. I've been sharing them with other people doing the same thing and its gonna be bitchin once were all in bloom together here soon. Will be able to see the same several cuts in different rooms on opposite sides of the country in real time.

 

[TheDarkStorm]

Some of them yes, but thats literally what I am in the process of doing and documenting it here. I am working some projects to get some S1 progeny to run out from each of them. I am also gonna run hybrids from the same pollen donor and see how those come out. I've been sharing them with other people doing the same thing and its gonna be bitchin once were all in bloom together here soon. Will be able to see the same several cuts in different rooms on opposite sides of the country in real time.

Thats a good idea....im not sure if that clone ojd is holding is easily available now.....and im not sure how selfing it turns out as ive not tried those yet. ...from what I've seen of it it does very well in outcrosses and passes the diesil traits heavily....and then a small percentage of the seeds come out as high quality elites just as good as some of the clones going around in the early diesel days..
Keep us updated with how you get on with some of your work and some of the results you come up with....good luck...will be cool to see all those diesel plants flowering out.