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Organics are easy
Organics are easy
I don't see why you'd even use chemical ferts in a soil grow. I find organic soil mixes to be infinitely easy. I guess they are slightly cheaper, but the availablilty of organic ferts means not having to order from hydroponic shops.
I'm sure PBP is good stuff. I hear Earth Juice is better and listed organically, but also that you shouldn't beleive that just because a product isn't listed invalidates it's organic status.
For any realistic use if the shit says it's organic than it is. Considering you have to pay to get be listed on OMRI I don't think we should take their reviews too seriously.
I find a simple organic mix like Miracle Grow Organic coupled with fish emulsions is all you really need. Fox Farms, I'm sure is a little better, but also more expensive and harder to find. Kelp meal is a good addition also.
You should start small and not buy every super bud booster suppliment you can find. This is wasteful and overly dependant on speciality shops, which I personally avoid.
For me one of the main advantages of organic is availability, not taste or growth rates. I also find them simpler. Organics are less likely to burn your plant and more likely to grow a plant without deficiances. If you use a pre mixed soil.
If your new to organics. DO NOT mix your own soil. I know some people will tell you to, but they are all doing so from the perspective of experienced organic growers and for the most part overlook how easy it could be to mix up a toxic batch of soil. You'll find just about everything these guys list in already in Fox Farms or Mircale Grow Organic. Just add water to activate the soil. I like to wet the soil a week or two before I use it to get the beneficial bacteria going. Of course most mixes will do better with added perlite or other aeration materials.
I like to use 3 gallon containers with lots of drainage. While some will suggest no drainage this is especially dangerous when learning soil. Stick to the tried and true methods by building on the foundations others have laid out for you instead of starting from scratch. Bottom water is also a great way to cut down on the time it takes to water and you will usually get a more even watering.
Once you get a good soil mix, add some perlite all you have to do it make sure you don't overwater. Overwatering is the bane of soil growers. Container weight is the best way to consistently measure if you plants need to be watered. Yet another reason why large drainless containers are less ideal for new growers.
Don't be worried about this organic and semi-organic talk. Like I said OMRI is half a scam anyway so being listed organic means jack and shit. In most cases it's just leverage to justify charging people more money. 100% organic ohh I'll pay twice as much for that yay.. hey wait this is just a pile of crap.
Bat Guano tea is great stuff, but not in any way necessary. Bone and Blood meal will do the trick. The fish emulsions will provide any extra organic boost that you might need to fuel your soil microbes.
I think in the great race to be 100% organic people have forgotten what organics really are and treat them more like rocket science than the piles of rotting organic matter they are. If your using nuclear technology to determine if your suppliments are 100% organic, somewhere along the line you've lost sight of the the real goals.
On that note vermiculture is a great addition to any household. You can recycle and make your own worm castings. Though personally I think it's more work than it's worth and worm castings are cool and all, but they aren't going to make any major difference in the final product. Things like paying attention to your plants exact needs and light positioning will pay off far more than having every organic nute possible in your mix.
So, don't focus too much on the mix, it's just one of many variables and it shouldn't be all that complicated or it's likely to take away from the yield more than contribute to it. The more time you spend over tweaking your mix the less time you've spent perfecting the other processes at work. Unless of course you have unlimited time and energy. I don't.
I say get a pre mix, wet it and throw some plants in it. Then hit them with fish emulsions every 2-3 waterings. Chances are you'll have super buds in no time with minimal work and no yellowing. Keep it simple. If you want worm castings, add some red wigglers right into the plant containers. They will poo out castings and aerate your soil at the same time. Running the hottest mix possible is unlikely to result in higher yield. The plant uptakes what it needs, not what you give it. Taller containers are better IMO.
Organics are easy
I don't see why you'd even use chemical ferts in a soil grow. I find organic soil mixes to be infinitely easy. I guess they are slightly cheaper, but the availablilty of organic ferts means not having to order from hydroponic shops.
I'm sure PBP is good stuff. I hear Earth Juice is better and listed organically, but also that you shouldn't beleive that just because a product isn't listed invalidates it's organic status.
For any realistic use if the shit says it's organic than it is. Considering you have to pay to get be listed on OMRI I don't think we should take their reviews too seriously.
I find a simple organic mix like Miracle Grow Organic coupled with fish emulsions is all you really need. Fox Farms, I'm sure is a little better, but also more expensive and harder to find. Kelp meal is a good addition also.
You should start small and not buy every super bud booster suppliment you can find. This is wasteful and overly dependant on speciality shops, which I personally avoid.
For me one of the main advantages of organic is availability, not taste or growth rates. I also find them simpler. Organics are less likely to burn your plant and more likely to grow a plant without deficiances. If you use a pre mixed soil.
If your new to organics. DO NOT mix your own soil. I know some people will tell you to, but they are all doing so from the perspective of experienced organic growers and for the most part overlook how easy it could be to mix up a toxic batch of soil. You'll find just about everything these guys list in already in Fox Farms or Mircale Grow Organic. Just add water to activate the soil. I like to wet the soil a week or two before I use it to get the beneficial bacteria going. Of course most mixes will do better with added perlite or other aeration materials.
I like to use 3 gallon containers with lots of drainage. While some will suggest no drainage this is especially dangerous when learning soil. Stick to the tried and true methods by building on the foundations others have laid out for you instead of starting from scratch. Bottom water is also a great way to cut down on the time it takes to water and you will usually get a more even watering.
Once you get a good soil mix, add some perlite all you have to do it make sure you don't overwater. Overwatering is the bane of soil growers. Container weight is the best way to consistently measure if you plants need to be watered. Yet another reason why large drainless containers are less ideal for new growers.
Don't be worried about this organic and semi-organic talk. Like I said OMRI is half a scam anyway so being listed organic means jack and shit. In most cases it's just leverage to justify charging people more money. 100% organic ohh I'll pay twice as much for that yay.. hey wait this is just a pile of crap.
Bat Guano tea is great stuff, but not in any way necessary. Bone and Blood meal will do the trick. The fish emulsions will provide any extra organic boost that you might need to fuel your soil microbes.
I think in the great race to be 100% organic people have forgotten what organics really are and treat them more like rocket science than the piles of rotting organic matter they are. If your using nuclear technology to determine if your suppliments are 100% organic, somewhere along the line you've lost sight of the the real goals.
On that note vermiculture is a great addition to any household. You can recycle and make your own worm castings. Though personally I think it's more work than it's worth and worm castings are cool and all, but they aren't going to make any major difference in the final product. Things like paying attention to your plants exact needs and light positioning will pay off far more than having every organic nute possible in your mix.
So, don't focus too much on the mix, it's just one of many variables and it shouldn't be all that complicated or it's likely to take away from the yield more than contribute to it. The more time you spend over tweaking your mix the less time you've spent perfecting the other processes at work. Unless of course you have unlimited time and energy. I don't.
I say get a pre mix, wet it and throw some plants in it. Then hit them with fish emulsions every 2-3 waterings. Chances are you'll have super buds in no time with minimal work and no yellowing. Keep it simple. If you want worm castings, add some red wigglers right into the plant containers. They will poo out castings and aerate your soil at the same time. Running the hottest mix possible is unlikely to result in higher yield. The plant uptakes what it needs, not what you give it. Taller containers are better IMO.
