Organic Fanatic Collective

[vonforne]

I don't know MI, that Guiness might kill the microkiddies its so nasty. HaHa!

I still put stale beer in my tea mixture. Always leave one on my work bench and let it sit for a couple days. I don't think I can spend my hard earned $ on Guiness though.

I will try one if I can buy 1.

V

 

[minds_I]

Hello all,

I hear you on the Guiness, I did not buy it it was a Xmas gift. My brother who gave it to me thought it was shit too.

Now I like a good pale ale (Sierra Nevada) and others but this stuff must have gone bad... I mean its as thick as molasses, black as night....frankly it tastes like ass.

But I usually drink Bud...not a heavy beer by any means.

minds_I

 

[PHB]

PS: I have three cans of this beer called guiness strout. Well, I do not know what happened to this stuff but I would not let my enemy drink it..

I mean it tastes nasty...not bad, nasty! bla

I'd rather drink piss than a Guiness, it's like trying to drink a 2 day old steak.

Whatcha talkin' 'bout Willis?!?! Guiness is great stuff.

Oh well, to each their own I guess

On the subject of Spirulina, I was under the impression that they require a strong light source for photosynthesis in order to reproduce. http://perso.orange.fr/petites-nouvelles/manuel/grow.htm I thought the Bio-Bucket was kept in the dark so I don't know how well that would work (at least in Pyrex's situation).

 

[chosen]

I make my own little goodie tea mix. It has humic,fulvic, many mycos, and bacillus additives. Then I add molasses along with rainbow mix that has tons of other types of meal.

 

[Guest]

While surfing around, I came across this website http://attra.ncat.org/attra-pub/potmix.html It has all sorts of good info and basic info on potting soils and fertilizers plus some very good links to organic supplies etc. One place I saw was http://www.planetnatural.com/site/index.html A nice looking place with all sorts of supplies and such. Anyone ever use them? How's the prices? If any this is already posted, I apologize..I must of overlooked it, the sun was in my eyes, the devil made me do it! Does that cover all possible excuses\reasons? Thanks all you guys in the OFC...you are helping others and that's a very good thing!!! Oh...PS One thing I read was most peat wasn't organic due to it being spread with a wetting agent. Any thoughts?

 

[Bennythejet]

should pond water help a grow out because of all the livley goodness in it, are there any risks of this because the pond is a near water source i'd like to use for spot i have chosen to grow.
thanks

 

[Bennythejet]

hello again. could anyone tell how to quick prepare a bunch of soil using cheap or free amendments that will boost my grow. i;m aiming at a wheelbarow or 2 full. i was thinking of using good draining rich backyard dirt with some sort of fibers for more drainage and also perlite for holding water as a base. just need some killer remdies to add to that. thanks for any advice

 

[jaykush]

benny i use almost all fresh spring, stream or pond water for my teas and really the plants love it so much more. lots of things in there you wont find in tap or filtered water. just try to stay away from stagnant water. sometimes the ph can be a bit off wack thats another thing to watch out for, but not really necessary.

 

[chosen]

Is your screen name taken from "Benny the Jet Urquidez?"
That guys a stud...

 

[Bennythejet]

no. my names ben and i got it from the movie sandlot. but i do not play baseball

 

[chosen]

That's cool too...

 

[3BM]

Hey Benny:

I like Alfalfa Meal, its sold as horse feed at feed stores a lot. It costs about 5$ for a 50lb bag around me, and I get it free from local farms as Hay too. The meal is generally about 2.5-1-1, with more than 60 trace minerals and a fatty acid growth hormone (called triaconatol I think). Its finely ground and will become active immediately, but will also break down slowly for time release.

Making compost from horse manure is also a great option, since horses are often fed alfalfa. The manure will contain bedding (straw) and can be obtained free from local horsefarms. Pile it up, wet it and turn it every few days. In just a few weeks it will be ready to add to soil mixes.

For the cheap, but not free category look into Rainbow mix as a nice blend of readily available nutes with fungus innoculants. Well I could go on forever, but I'll leave it at that. Hope that helps.

 

[Bennythejet]

thanks 3bm. nothing wronfg with goin on forever. peace

 

[3BM]

I have recently come across several posts/threads discussing the issue of whether TDS meters will provide an accurate reading of organic solutions. I have often used these meters to guage the general strength of soil, teas, tap water, etc. Several posters suggested that organic molecules will not register at all, and it caused me to wonder at the effectiveness of this approach in my garden. Here is a link to a fine article describing the functionality of TDS meters generally. It answered many of my questions, maybe it will help others as well.

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-04/rhf/feature/index.php

Specifically, I have heard many say that TDS meters only read salt contents in a solution and thus if an organic solution reads high it must contain salt derived nutrients. However, this article seems to make clear that these meters actually read ions generally, not just salts. Most elements occur in ionic form, and even though large organic compounds are often neutral, these compounds are composed of elemental materials that remain in solution until microbial processes bind them into more complex forms. Thus it would seem that measuring the ionic elements in a solution can provide, at least, a general indication of nutrient strength. Just some food for thought, Id love to know what others think on this subject.

 

[jaykush]

plant database for you all.

http://www.ibiblio.org/pfaf/D_search.html

lots and lots of info for example

http://www.ibiblio.org/pfaf/cgi-bin/arr_html?Urtica+dioica&CAN=COMIND

 

[Smurf]

High to all in OFC........

I'm must agree with you 3BM,....for as long as I've been brewing teas I've been checking it with my TDS meter. But it was only for my own satisfaction of knowing what the EC levels were. You would be surprised how high a reading you'll get by the different organic additives you've made etc, (plus I'm using Fulvic acid as a pH down along with apple cider) which does increase the EC levels as well as acts as a chelating agent. Plus I have been running my teas at diff strengths for diff growth stages of my ladies, and all I can say is that the proof is in the good results I've achieved so far.

Also atm, I have been keeping my teas heated during the cold nights for better cell division of the beasties .
As you know the oxygen saturation in H20 is best with cooler temps but microbes need warmer temps for optimum
breeding (25 - 27deg C), so I try not to allow the temps drop below (20 - 23deg C) at night, obviously they do creep up to 27/28degC during the warmer days with no adverse effects that I've noticed.

smurf

ps. congrats suby and all the die hard fanatics for your persistence!


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[Suby]

plant database for you all.

http://www.ibiblio.org/pfaf/D_search.html

lots and lots of info for example

http://www.ibiblio.org/pfaf/cgi-bin/arr_html?Urtica+dioica&CAN=COMIND

Great fucking link, I got stoned and played around for over an hour.

 

[Suby]

OH and BTW hello all, sorry I've been doing the daddy thing, God babies are awesome.

Smurf this plants looks really happy, it deserves a full peak.

Peace All

PS I'm sure we could do a dilution of several organic tea elements in RO water a really find out which elements are boosting TDS, it would very cool to test and compare results.

S

 

[jaykush]

wow what a great fuckin outdoor plant. i love the outdoor goodness, best organic nugs ever. they yield to boot too. and suby no problem i look over that link sooooo much scouting local plants i got for any reasons to help. ive found a few that should work really really good in compost and a few others with great ingredients i might try to make extracts out of.

 

[Suby]

Hmmmm extracts, looks like it's time to play chemist.
Spring is here
I'm tired of paying a fortune for bags of grass ferts, I'm too cheap so I let the grass go for 2 years, I can't bare the guilt of using MG turf builder knowing well and good that the next summer's rain will wash it all away and I have to start again next spring.
I'm thinking alfalfa meal, liquid seaweed, I'll splurge for good compost to build the soilmass.
I have to machine aerate it to jumsart it and the foliar feed it with the tea.
I really have to start a larger batch of compost and use it on my lawn and garden.






I have no fucking idea why I'm jabbering about my lawn..sry bout that

Peace
S