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Big Nasty

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Green haze male #1 fast

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Green haze male #2, 2 weeks slower than his buddy

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each one is beautiful on its own way,what should i look for to dust a couple of reg female orange hybrid?hard question...
 

SolarLogos

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Green haze male #1 fast

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Green haze male #2, 2 weeks slower than his buddy

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each one is beautiful on its own way,what should i look for to dust a couple of reg female orange hybrid?hard question...
Good question. I too am interested to know what others think. Both those males look beautiful! Nice healthy garden.
Peace, God bless
 

Big Nasty

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Good question. I too am interested to know what others think. Both those males look beautiful! Nice healthy garden.
Peace, God bless
Thanks SL,hard to pick one and let the other one die,i mean this is just for fun and experimentation but i'd like to choose the best.
 

SolarLogos

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Thanks SL,hard to pick one and let the other one die,i mean this is just for fun and experimentation but i'd like to choose the best.
You may want to try pollinating two different branches with each one and try growing a few of each out. There is no for sure way to know otherwise which would be the best male, perhaps.

Something Dubi said in post 27 of this thread:
Fat male posted is male 16. Purple males 16 and 25 were 'early' and quite exuberant, but they didnt transmit the desired quality to the finished product.

Green male 6 was slower to flower and not so vigorous but produced quite better progeny. That's why we decided to do the last haze reproduction with male 6. It's the best tested male we have by now.

I hope it helps. dubi
Just a thought. That's probably what I will do if I have more than one male.
Peace, God bless
 

Big Nasty

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You may want to try pollinating two different branches with each one and try growing a few of each out. There is no for sure way to know otherwise which would be the best male, perhaps.

Something Dubi said in post 27 of this thread:

Just a thought. That's probably what I will do if I have more than one male.
Peace, God bless
That's a good idea,even if i can't work on two different lines in the same time i can save seeds for the future.
btw i'm doing the same cross with a haze female and a male "orange",the purpose is to cut down flowering time a bit and to get a mostly haze hybrid with a hint of orange,that would be my holy grail for sure.Thank you mate
 

guru64

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Otph germination

Otph germination

Hi what would be my best chance to germinate 2015 seed of otph, temp media nutrients etc. thanks.
 

SolarLogos

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I make my own nutes and the pH changes back to center after brewing in a vortex brewer with microbes for 24hrs. The soil usually sits about 5.9-6.2 the whole time. This is my tea mix for when they start to feed in veg and the bigger they get you can double everything that goes into the water. I alternate feedings and watering and in veg I use this tea on one feeding and the next feeding I use fresh nettle/clover/ryegrass ferment and homemade calmag.
1 cup worm castings
1/2 cup alfalfa meal
1/4 cup kelp
2 gallons of de-chlorinated water
I have been following your recipe for the ewc tea Feb2006 and they look healthy nice color in them now. Thank you very much for sharing that recipe. I haven't tried the fresh nettle/clover/ryegrass ferment. I will do some research on how to make it, get the nettle, clover and rye grass seeds and grow them if needed.


Here is a group shot. From left to right in the back row, 1-4. The small #5 is up front

I'm going to start with #5. This is the runt. You can see in the front row how small it is. It actually has the same number of branches, nodes as the others, but the internode spacing is very small, resulting in a much more compact plant. This would make a decent plant for indoors, if she doesn't stretch like mad.

Number 5 again from the top

Here is number 4

I will post the rest in the next post
 

SolarLogos

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OTH update

OTH update

Continued.
Number1



Of course, another group shot

Here is my two year old Yellow lab/golden retriever F1. Her birthday is on Valentines; she is my little sweetheart. She follows me around and goes everywhere I do. Smartest dog I've ever seen, love her dearly.
Ok, back to OTH. Number 1 got transplanted up into a bigger pot. If I have to bring them in at night to flower early, I don't want smartpots. I prefer plastic so I can use my dolly to move them around.
Thanks for stopping by.
Peace, God bless
 

dubi

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Welcome guru64,

As we have explained here several times, the best way to germinate Oldtimer's Haze and its 'pure' variants is to germinate the seeds directly in soil with constant warm tropical temps instead of using the papwer towel method.

As explained also in the Growing Tips of the official description of the strain, Oldtimer's Haze works best with a soft feeding (especially of nitrogen and in seedling stage). Provide them plenty of light intensity and flower them with photoperiods under 12/12 for a correct flowering development and to avoid neverending stretching.

Hope it helps. Best wishes! :)

Hi what would be my best chance to germinate 2015 seed of otph, temp media nutrients etc. thanks.
 

dubi

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Hi Big Nasty,

:respect: for having the courage of growing Oldtimer's Haze indoors from seed! I would recommend you to lower down a bit the nitrogen in the feedings as they seem to show some leaf curling and they don't need much nitrogen at this flowering stage.

There are big differences in the response to flowering between the 2 males so seems the first male is indeed a faster flowering green pheno.

It's almost impossible to judge which male is better unless you test the progeny of the different males. Breeding with pure Haze takes lots of time and resources, but it's usually very rewarding if you are ready to deal with long flowering times even in your Haze outcrosses.

Good luck! :)
 

dubi

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Hi SolarLogos,

Thanks for your updates friend :)
Do you plan to flower your Oldtimer's Hazes in a light dep or with natural outdoors photoperiod ?

The weather in the northern california mountains is usually very dry in summer with strong temp variations between day and night .... conditions there are very suitable for afghani hashplant and fast flowering hybrids, but can be problematic for growing tropical sativas of this kind, which prefer constant humid conditions and warm temps.
 

Big Nasty

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Hi Big Nasty,

:respect: for having the courage of growing Oldtimer's Haze indoors from seed! I would recommend you to lower down a bit the nitrogen in the feedings as they seem to show some leaf curling and they don't need much nitrogen at this flowering stage.

There are big differences in the response to flowering between the 2 males so seems the first male is indeed a faster flowering green pheno.

It's almost impossible to judge which male is better unless you test the progeny of the different males. Breeding with pure Haze takes lots of time and resources, but it's usually very rewarding if you are ready to deal with long flowering times even in your Haze outcrosses.

Good luck! :)
thanks for the input dubi,unfortunately the plants are in a mix of homemade vermicompost and potting soil for seedling(low EC)so i'm giving them only water.

I'd be very happy with a flowering time of 13-14 weeks for the f1s but i must tell you these Green Hazes are pure fun to grow,i love to scrog :) ,outdoor those should grow some serious monster plant.
 

guru64

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Welcome guru64,

As we have explained here several times, the best way to germinate Oldtimer's Haze and its 'pure' variants is to germinate the seeds directly in soil with constant warm tropical temps instead of using the papwer towel method.

As explained also in the Growing Tips of the official description of the strain, Oldtimer's Haze works best with a soft feeding (especially of nitrogen and in seedling stage). Provide them plenty of light intensity and flower them with photoperiods under 12/12 for a correct flowering development and to avoid neverending stretching.

Hope it helps. Best wishes! :)
thanks for taking the time to explain once again
 

SolarLogos

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Hi SolarLogos,

Thanks for your updates friend :)
Do you plan to flower your Oldtimer's Hazes in a light dep or with natural outdoors photoperiod ?

The weather in the northern california mountains is usually very dry in summer with strong temp variations between day and night .... conditions there are very suitable for afghani hashplant and fast flowering hybrids, but can be problematic for growing tropical sativas of this kind, which prefer constant humid conditions and warm temps.
Greetings Dubi,
I apologize for not seeing your question last week. My plan was to flip them into flower about now, carry the plants in early each night as I have done before, since there is only 3 OTH to carry and they are not too heavy. However, I will be gone for 2 weeks in August and the amount of sunlight is about 13.5 hours per day, so there is a good chance the plants will go back into veg before I return. I'm considering doing it anyways, thinking that 2 weeks is not long enough for a major change and I can always continue flowering upon my return.

The other option is I am thinking of putting a heater and about 6k watts of LED panels in my greenhouse to supplement the weaker light during winter. Humidity should not be a problem during the winter, there should be plenty and I will have to run the dehumidifier anyways. I factored in extra usage for such projects when I purchased my solar panels, so there is no charge to run lights/heater, etc. and I can trick out the greenhouse however I want.
What do you think is my best option? Thanks very much for stopping by.
Peace, God bless
 
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