I use one of those 2 or 3 gallon bucket cloner and use Clonex, as long as the plant was healthy, and the water temp is right, i rarely get clone failures.
Some may take a couple weeks or so to root, while others root within a few days.
Oldtimer's Haze
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Some may take a couple weeks or so to root, while others root within a few days.
The first female from (Golden Tiger x Panama) x (Destroyer x OTH).
Ill probably take the opportunity to hit this with some of the pollen from the short Purple Destroyer x OTH F2
Probably get the remaining 8 Golden Tiger x Panama in a paper towel today, i would like to possibly make more GTP x DOTH. I feel very confident out of 6 more females, a suitable one appear.
And looks like the Chem 91 S1 took the OTH pollen well. Never had 91 before, so im not sure how she compares at this point, but she has a nice funk to her, resin looks great, very curious what OTH 91 will look like. Reports of 91 S1's are very good, probably one of the best S1s you can run and have a very high chance of finding very potent plants.
Ill probably take the opportunity to hit this with some of the pollen from the short Purple Destroyer x OTH F2
Probably get the remaining 8 Golden Tiger x Panama in a paper towel today, i would like to possibly make more GTP x DOTH. I feel very confident out of 6 more females, a suitable one appear.
And looks like the Chem 91 S1 took the OTH pollen well. Never had 91 before, so im not sure how she compares at this point, but she has a nice funk to her, resin looks great, very curious what OTH 91 will look like. Reports of 91 S1's are very good, probably one of the best S1s you can run and have a very high chance of finding very potent plants.
Perdido
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we stopped using them in the nursery because they cost time when you do so many nonstop
and the result seems just the same.
I feel no desire whatsoever to go to a dispensary or to grow something new, but this Haze of yours...I'd gladly pay 100+/g! There is no other strain, cut or bud I'd want to try out as much!
Hi, Dubi. I can absolutely confirm that OTH #3 is something truly special that should be cloned and introduced to the market as an alternative to more sedating strains. Regarding my OTH grow this year, it should come as no surprise that it is far from being the ideal choice up here. Despite the unnaturally highly temperatures (latitude-wise) we have had, #10, which I suspected to be a Purple Haze female, never made it to pre-flowering and #7 did manage to develop lots of pollen sacks, but they produced virtually no pollen and even then very late, around the end of November, which wouldn't have made it into seeds.
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Now, my Erdpurt x OTH is another whole story. Here's my smoke report after a month:
Helvetia Haze #7
I adore OTH. Her simple yet enthusiastic effects quickly gained a place in my heart. I was spaced out on it at one of the biggest music festivals in Europe, without feeling a split second of anxiety or post-Cannabis-exhaustion. It always made me feel in tune with myself and it inspired me to try and develop something that would feel as nice while performing well at this latitude. Meet Erdpurt x OTH (Green, 14 weeks pheno), aka Helvetia Haze.
Throughout her whole life cycle she looked and smelt extremely Haze dominant, which truly got my hopes up.
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Once again, let’s start from the jar.
Haze meets Hashplant. Due to Erdpurt influence, OTH’s calyxes swell lavishly, building massive green clusters of glistering diamonds that remarkably retain their stickiness even after drying.
There is the same strong incense overture as the 18 months cured Green Haze, but with much more lavender and strawberry blooming in the background. Cutting a bud open reveals hidden fresh citrus and overripe strawberry notes.
Next step is vapour, which is still mainly about incense, but with lemon candy and strawberry candy floss coating your palate upon every exhalation. The deeper you venture into your session, the more caramel you’ll excavate.
Unlike modern geentics, HH hits since the very first inhale. It’s that tingling behind your eyes, your body gliding through space with less input, that lighter light diffusing through the window that (gently!) catapults you into a parallel universe.
Instead of toning each other down, both Kush and Haze intertwine hands to give birth to a fruit salad of opposites. Although not reaching the same dizzying heights Haze can touch, your thoughts will still feel less bonded and your perception will lose its appetite for details, thus being more receptive to the bigger picture. All this smoothing reminds me of Repuk commenting on smoking Lebanese as “Feeling like a well-oiled machine”.
The softer high and the appealing taste may induce some gluttony, leading to a more generous session than planned, which, in turn, let your brain wander off on a tangent while your body melts on your chair like butter on a hot Summer day.
As far as manoeuvrability goes, I’m happy to have a lighter OTH experience, more suitable for a week day or a lazy afternoon, but the more I indulge in it, the harder it gets to coordinate brain and body. I eventually get to a point where my body is light asleep and my thoughts morph into monologues inside my head:
Hiking? Now? How about next week?
Another major turnoff for me is that the aforementioned sense of apathy persists in the following days. I’ve found myself skipping lunch a couple times because I couldn’t bother purchasing something and spent my lunch break staring at the pine tree out of the window instead. This cannabinoid induced lethargy could potentially turn into frustration, because you find yourself wanting things that your body has to be scourged for in order to execute. As often is the case, giving up, notwithstanding the unendurable annoyance and avoiding to carry your melting body around your house, is easier.
Good year, everybody!
Eltitoguay
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I have never grown pure OLDTIMERS HAZE or GREEN HAZE 19, but only the green genotype or phenotype in hybrids where it is very dominant (at least in the description of the bank and in my few cultivated specimens) such as GREEN 19 A5 HAZE (A.C.E: Green Haze 19 X A5Haze; my specimen was wonderful and among the best sativas I have been able to try) or FULL ENERGY (T.S.Co: OldTimers Haze "Green light" X Old Narrow Afghan); But those hybrids, I can attest, stay totally green like green wheat and the green lemon of the old song, even below freezing, down to at least -1°C/30°F.
Fabipakalolo
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i grew a green pheno of oldtimers haze x malawi which was nice especially when mixed with other bud
i also made a cross oth/malawi x mikado which i name spirited away but i was tortured into givin those seeds to the birds
luckily i found some spare seeds, hopefully they germinate
i also made a cross oth/malawi x mikado which i name spirited away but i was tortured into givin those seeds to the birds
luckily i found some spare seeds, hopefully they germinate
old timer haze..the most consistency in a good non sedative haze high without sedation..
the ”real hazes have been a crapshoot and almost all have been too sedative.
"real “ hazes appear to have more power..and maybe I will find gold if i grow out a platoon of em
the ”real hazes have been a crapshoot and almost all have been too sedative.
"real “ hazes appear to have more power..and maybe I will find gold if i grow out a platoon of em
xtsho
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RobFromTX
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Thanks buddy. It sounds like a fantastic sativa and the buds look stellar. I wish i could run her outdoors
hanfiking
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yes i have a grow diary of it somewhere here, flowered and seeded. i only grew them outside once. But there are lots of tricks to keep them small
https://www.icmag.com/threads/lazy-growing-in-the-city-with-1600w.317589/page-3 have a look as long as the images are still avaialble
https://www.icmag.com/threads/lazy-growing-in-the-city-with-1600w.317589/page-3 have a look as long as the images are still avaialble
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BumSplodgeBrownPants
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Howdy folks!
A pal sent me 4 of his leftover OTH beans, must be about 10 years ago now.
They've been in the fridge since, and I've finally got the urge to get them in some coir.
4 out of 4 and they took 2 days to come up!
They're on 12/12 under a flowering CMH lamp with the rest of my plants, which will be dropped to 11/13 then 10/14 over the next couple of months of the grow.
A pal sent me 4 of his leftover OTH beans, must be about 10 years ago now.
They've been in the fridge since, and I've finally got the urge to get them in some coir.
4 out of 4 and they took 2 days to come up!
They're on 12/12 under a flowering CMH lamp with the rest of my plants, which will be dropped to 11/13 then 10/14 over the next couple of months of the grow.
sublingual
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Make sure you clone that plant with the extra leaves. I would take it out of the 12 hour tent and put it in a16-18 hour veg. regimin. That plant may, or may not have great potential. The only way to know is to reproduce it some way, clone or seed.Howdy folks!
A pal sent me 4 of his leftover OTH beans, must be about 10 years ago now.
They've been in the fridge since, and I've finally got the urge to get them in some coir.
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4 out of 4 and they took 2 days to come up!
They're on 12/12 under a flowering CMH lamp with the rest of my plants, which will be dropped to 11/13 then 10/14 over the next couple of months of the grow.
If I am right, then an easy way to identify superior individuals is found. It is much easier to determine what a person wants to keep at seedling stage than to have to wait to smoke it (while different clone lines take up space until that evaluation).
BumSplodgeBrownPants
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Cheers dude,
It's got 2 pairs of cuddly-dons, and the usual normal leaves. Just nature having a giggle.
What I do do though, is I leave the males in the cubby and once all the females are showing bits, I leave them until there's a fair spattering of bracts/calyx thingys along the stems of the ladies. Then take them out. There's always a dozen or two beans up along the stem then for future use if I want to run them again. Or I dust a lower branch 3/4 weeks into flower.
revegeta666
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Could you please elaborate on this? How do you expect to predict the quality of the smoke from a picture of a 3 day old seedling with an extra pair of cotyledons??
sublingual
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It's not so much the quality of the smoke in this case but yield. All other things being the same i would rather have three buds per node than two. Or, if the three branch per node peters out, still, it seems that that plant will be more productive over all.Could you please elaborate on this? How do you expect to predict the quality of the smoke from a picture of a 3 day old seedling with an extra pair of cotyledons??
I have a couple of lines that throw extra cotyledans and recently grew them out. That's what those plants did described above. Sorry I do not have pictures, but they were beauties. One, three buds per node and the other line petered out the 3 branches but then it made a double headed top bud on one branch and another branch's cola started shooting all kinds of extra buddage (not foxtailing). I'm still experimenting and observing. Previosly, when I saw the extra cotyledons the got culled, not anymore.
We usually want top potency, nice aroma, and the type of high (sativa or indica). All these qualities are really not lacking in most strains. Therefore, if a more productive plant can be identified, soopah.
revegeta666
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If there is a correlation between these traits you mention and production, what do you think is the reason these plants are not the standard in the commercial industry already? Or why no one ever mentions a trifoliate elite clone? People have been selecting plants for decades and I never met anyone that kept a trifoliate plant.
Whenever I had trifoliate plants, their yield was equivalent to their sisters. They could maybe have been producing a little more, but if they did it was not very noticeable.
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Whenever I had trifoliate plants, their yield was equivalent to their sisters. They could maybe have been producing a little more, but if they did it was not very noticeable.
High level production is achieved by the efficiency in space management and uniformity of the clones used. If you are growing plants from seed and they have these unpredictable traits how can that be considered more productive? One plant may be more productive than the others in isolation, but obkective production is dependant on predictability of the clones behaviour.sublingual said:
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I would say quality of the high is indeed lacking in most of today's strains.
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