Okay let's talk abt Psychics.

[N. Accumbens]

KVR, lol, were probably all masons, too.. Even the femmes. Sigh.

Meditations, cleansing and the such of course are ideal for many things.
Particularly for sensitive persons.

Discreet knowledge should approached without bodily and mental hindrances as said by FH and GK.

Great thread,

I'm out.
Peace.
Nacc.

 

[shithawk420]

But what's kvr? Mason stuff?

 

[Weird]

Our like humanity is greater than any difference we choose to focus on, esoteric powers require humanity to function, and this is the realm them exploit.

The most powerful tool we have is our humanity and when you hold it in the right regard, no "magiks" can corrupt you.

98% of what I understand about anything in these realms came from self realization and actualization in the natural world.

There is no supernatural, just a natural universe we aren't fully capable of understanding.

The fear of the unknown has given the unknown a name and a face, the supernatural, a shapeless form that always changes to grip us in fear.

It is part of our DNA to have these irrational fears and part of our DNA to see them for what they are and over come.

There is nothing to fear, but fear itself.

No man is greater than his own humanity, regardless of who they are.

So many polarized people don't realize they are polarized against a part of humanity they can't resolve in their own beings to they project it onto one label so as in to focus their fear to hate.

A great example is hearing a white dude (I am white) who has very little exposure to diversity see a person of color and say n****r.

What is best most are too mentally weak to understand they are focusing their fear and frustration of the unknown onto a particular stereotype as in to give them a focus to convert it into anger.

Most people have things they are afraid to talk about or get them so upset they can't deal with the flood of emotion.

And people pretend the lack of cognitive recognition is something other than a sub conscious defense mechanism.

That is the problem with the human experience, our body can make us feel emotion that is so poignant most people take it at self value as true reality.

That is the problem with philosophies that start and end with self realization.

Have you drank deep enough from everyone's humanity that you know what lie inside of those who are different than you?

Or have you projected walls out of fear?

This does not apply to anyone person, it applies to us all.

 

[Weird]

as far as psychics

The precognition from our flight or fight is partially inherited and partially programmed by life experience.

Some people are hyper perceptive and work at very high levels of empathy, time and familiarity increase this capacity. Ever meet a couple who finishes the each others sentences?

And to the gambit an understanding psychological profiling and you can get people who are able to understand a person's basic desires and lead them to a process of fulfillment.

If you doubt this then you should research sales psychology, where personality types are qualified and sold to based on psychological triggers.

Many work of a model similar to http://www.myersbriggs.org/

The simple point is, knowing a little something about human nature is exploited for good and bad across the board and throughout the history of time.

Just like how illusionists work around common perception to fool masses.

 

[CannaBrix]

Weird-

I dig it.

Not an all out bash to 'supernatural' or the unknown.

But a great explanation that accounts for the perception of 'supernatural' phenomenon, by way of the limits of our perception.

See Kant's blue tinted shades 8)

 

[Weird]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases

 

[stoned-trout]

I predict their all whackos...yeehaw....

 

[trichrider]

.... 3.5 The Mental and Physical

If it is natural both to pair and to oppose time and space, it is also natural to pair and to oppose the mental and the physical. The modern identity theory holds that all mental events or states are a special sort of physical event or state. The theory is parsimonious (among its other virtues) but we nevertheless exhibit a natural tendency to distinguish the mental and the physical. Perhaps the reason for this is epistemological: whether our thoughts and sensations are physical or not, the kind of awareness we have of them is of a radically different sort from the kind of awareness we have of the flight of a bird or of a flowing stream, and it seems to be natural to infer that the objects of the one sort of awareness are radically different from the objects of the other. That the inference is logically invalid is (as is so often the case) no barrier to its being made. Whatever the reason may be, philosophers have generally (but not universally) supposed that the world of concrete particulars can be divided into two very different realms, the mental and the material. (As the twentieth century passed and physical theory rendered “matter” an increasingly problematical concept, it became increasingly common to say “the mental and the physical”.) If one takes this view of things, one faces philosophical problems that modern philosophy has assigned to metaphysics.

Prominent among these is the problem of accounting for mental causation. If thoughts and sensations belong to an immaterial or non-physical portion of reality—if, for example, they are changes in immaterial or non-physical substances—how can they have effects in the physical world? How, for example, can a decision or act of will cause a movement of a human body? How, for that matter, can changes in the physical world have effects in the non-physical part of reality? If one's feeling pain is a non-physical event, how can a physical injury to one's body cause one to feel pain? Both questions have troubled “two realm” philosophers—or ‘dualists’, to give them their more usual name. But the former has troubled them more, since modern physics is founded on principles that assert the conservation of various physical quantities. If a non-physical event causes a change in the physical world—dualists are repeatedly asked—does that not imply that physical quantities like energy or momentum fail to be conserved in any physically closed causal system in which that change occurs? And does that not imply that every voluntary movement of a human body involves a violation of the laws of physics—that is to say, a miracle?

A wide range of metaphysical theories have been generated by the attempts of dualists to answer these questions. Some have been less than successful for reasons that are not of much intrinsic philosophical interest. C. D. Broad, for example, proposed (1925: 103–113) that the mind affects the body by momentarily changing the electrical resistance of certain synapses in the brain, (thus diverting various current pulses, which literally follow the path of least resistance into paths other than those they would have taken). And this, he supposed, would not imply a violation of the principle of the conservation of energy. But it seems impossible to suppose that an agent could change the electrical resistance of a physical system without expending energy in the process, for to do this would necessitate changing the physical structure of the system, and that implies changing the positions of bits of matter on which forces are acting (think of turning the knob on a rheostat or variable resistor: one must expend energy to do this). If this example has any philosophical interest it is this: it illustrates the fact that it is impossible to imagine a way for a non-physical thing to affect the behavior of a (classical) physical system without violating a conservation principle.

The various dualistic theories of the mind treat the interaction problem in different ways. The theory called ‘dualistic interactionism’ does not, of itself, have anything to say about the problem—although its various proponents (Broad, for example) have proposed solutions to it. ‘Occasionalism’ simply concedes that the “local” counterfactual dependence of the behavior of a physical system on a non-physical event requires a miracle. The theory of pre-established harmony, which substitutes “global” for local counterfactual dependence of voluntary physical movements on the mental states of agents, avoids problems with conservation principles—but secures this advantage at a great price. (Like occasionalism, it presupposes theism, and, unlike occasionalism, it entails either that free will does not exist or that free will is compatible with determinism.) ‘Epiphenomenalism’ simply denies that the mental can affect the physical, and contents itself with an explanation of why the mental appears to affect the physical.......

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/metaphysics/

 

[trichrider]

As in our discussion of matter in general, it is now necessary to go into the question of how in consciousness the explicate order is what is manifest ... the manifest content of consciousness is based essentially on memory, which is what allows such content to be held in a fairly constant form. Of course, to make possible such constancy it is also necessary that this content be organized, not only through relatively fixed association but also with the aid of the rules of logic, and of our basic categories of space, time causality, universality, etc. ... there will be a strong background of recurrent stable, and separable features, against which the transitory and changing aspects of the unbroken flow of experience will be seen as fleeting impressions that tend to be arranged and ordered mainly in terms of the vast totality of the relatively static and fragmented content of [memories].[5]

.....One may indeed say that our memory is a special case of the process described above, for all that is recorded is held enfolded within the brain cells and these are part of matter in general. The recurrence and stability of our own memory as a relatively independent sub-totality is thus brought about as part of the very same process that sustains the recurrence and stability in the manifest order of matter in general. It follows, then, that the explicate and manifest order of consciousness is not ultimately distinct from that of matter in general.[6]............

http://www.ask.com/wiki/Implicate_and_explicate_order_according_to_David_Bohm?qsrc=3044

 

[Genghis Kush]

It's a holographic illusion.

The entire universe can be seen as a two-dimensional information structure "painted" on the cosmological horizon, such that the three dimensions we observe are an effective description only at macroscopic scales and at low energies.

The holographic principle states that the entropy of ordinary mass is also proportional to surface area and not volume; that volume itself is illusory and the universe is really a hologram which is isomorphic to the information "inscribed" on the surface of its boundary.

 

[Genghis Kush]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases

and the other big one, cognitive distortion:

Cognitive distortions are thoughts that cause individuals to perceive reality inaccurately. These thinking patterns often reinforce negative thoughts or emotions. Cognitive distortions tend to interfere with the way a person perceives an event. Because the way a person feels intervenes with how they think, these distorted thoughts can feed negative emotions and lead an individual affected by cognitive distortions towards an overall negative outlook on the world and consequently a depressive or anxious mental state.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_distortion

 

[trichrider]

https://view.publitas.com/p222-665/se-vol-26-issue-1/page/1

subtle energies

 

[padrone]

All reality is a simulation and the concept of a holographic universe is a pre-established premise within this simulation: https://youtu.be/nnl6nY8YKHs

 

[trichrider]

http://media.noetic.org/uploads/files/s5_sheldrake.pdf

we get in trouble altering the program...

 

[hunt4genetics]

Regardless of dates and predictions, is it possible that we just want to assume someone is tracking these objects? Because it is just to scary to believe that we are so helpless.

In the last few years, people have jumped the white house fence, one got inside.
The secret service partied with hookers and didn't pay them in Colombia. The Secret service allowed a felon with a gun to get in the same elevator with Obama.Etc...

A Schizophrenic "sign language" interpreter with a violent past was feet away from Obama and various world leaders at Mandela's memorial service.

Is it possible that no one has got it under control? It's all a façade. As long as the lights are on and the internet is flowing, and the Mc Rib get's released, we all agree to suspend our disbelief.

 

[waveguide]

It's all a façade. As long as the lights are on and the internet is flowing, and the Mc Rib get's released, we all agree to suspend our disbelief.

and some nice hippies on the internet to introduce us to nonthreatening alternate cosmos material the kind that has pictures..

"we will lead every revolution against us" - zionist theodor herzl

want to spot the "false advocates" in a community? don't have to go looking for them, they'll lay out the turds and everything and see what shows up

maybe something juicy

 

[Weird]

someone needs a hug

my guess one has never been offered

 

[Weird]

Our like humanity is greater than any difference we choose to focus on, esoteric powers require humanity to function, and this is the realm them exploit.

The most powerful tool we have is our humanity and when you hold it in the right regard, no "magiks" can corrupt you.

98% of what I understand about anything in these realms came from self realization and actualization in the natural world.

There is no supernatural, just a natural universe we aren't fully capable of understanding.

The fear of the unknown has given the unknown a name and a face, the supernatural, a shapeless form that always changes to grip us in fear.

It is part of our DNA to have these irrational fears and part of our DNA to see them for what they are and over come.

There is nothing to fear, but fear itself.

No man is greater than his own humanity, regardless of who they are.

So many polarized people don't realize they are polarized against a part of humanity they can't resolve in their own beings to they project it onto one label so as in to focus their fear to hate.

A great example is hearing a white dude (I am white) who has very little exposure to diversity see a person of color and say n****r.

What is best most are too mentally weak to understand they are focusing their fear and frustration of the unknown onto a particular stereotype as in to give them a focus to convert it into anger.

Most people have things they are afraid to talk about or get them so upset they can't deal with the flood of emotion.

And people pretend the lack of cognitive recognition is something other than a sub conscious defense mechanism.

That is the problem with the human experience, our body can make us feel emotion that is so poignant most people take it at self value as true reality.

That is the problem with philosophies that start and end with self realization.

Have you drank deep enough from everyone's humanity that you know what lie inside of those who are different than you?

Or have you projected walls out of fear?

This does not apply to anyone person, it applies to us all.

There are other aspects to this as well.

Some people have capacities that are greater than that of the mainstream.

Some musicians display this when then do things that most people simply can't do. From perfect pitch (being able to hear and reproduce sounds verbatim) to being able to keep a different beat on each limb as a drummer (bill bruford, bill kreutzmann) come to mind. Some musicians are so sensitive to sound vibrations that they immediately identify the emotion they evoke and use that intuitive understanding to "play" off the energy of the crowd.

These all involve perception, and if you do not posses the same wherewithal it is difficult to understand these facilities.

Now for people who are really good with math, they tend to excel at careers that involve numbers.

So extrapolated you can come to appreciate that some people are tuned into and have a sharper perception regarding human nature. Some of them use that and get jobs as mental health professionals, coaches, clergy, sales people, caretakers teachers and government.

Some people use this capacity for personal gain.

However, not everyone who understands human nature takes a position to exploit it.

IMHO the real war between good and evil exists in our minds, it is real, and it is fought real-time in all our heads, at every level and stage of our lives. That those that use it, like the Illuminati, to benefit from seeing "the big picture" are pawns to their own human nature, the one that feeds off the notion of power and greed.

Those who work to polarize humanity regardless of cause or claim are doing the work of the devil for the satisfaction of self.

The secrets of the universe are here for the taking, no magic needed, no secret membership, no earth knowledge necessary.

Did I need to enter a lodge to understand masonry? Did I need to be part of many secret societies to see their secrets in plain site? Did I ever need to read crowley's books to see his works among us? Did I need to read the Koran to know what was written in our hearts? Did I need to read the Torah to know the laws of Noah? Did I need to fulfill the Catholic sacraments to know Christ? Did I need to be Rastafarian to know Babylon and Zion?

No, they are reflections of our being, reflections that we can effect if not control, regardless of all the humanity around us that says otherwise.

Their magics are like the imaginations of children dispelled when confronted by the simple understanding of an adult.

Is your potential trapped because of your nature? Is is set in stone, has your fate been determined by another?

are you free man under the law of another man or are you a free man under the law of the universe?

 

[Genghis Kush]

Aum... Shanti... Shanti... Aum... Shanti... Aum

 

[trichrider]

http://bigthink.com/videos/does-quantum-physics-confirm-the-occult