Officials fear "bath salts" are growing drug problem

[Harry Gypsna]

4-AcO-DMT is basically psilocybin with the phosphoryl group replaced with an acetyl group. It (and psilocybin) converts to psilocin in the body, so the basic effect is like shrooms without the side effects like an upset stomach. It's still legal in the US if it's sold as a "research chemical" instead of a drug.

At some point it will be added to the schedule 1 list if it's popular enough. By the time this one is banned, 20 new tryptamines will have been created. Prohibition can't work when it's so easy for chemists to invent new drugs. People still buy and sell the banned drugs all the time like you said.

Acid is still my all time favorite. Sometimes it's just nice to have something that doesn't last as long.

Ah...my dog might check that (Psilacetin) out when he's browsing the onion, if it's essentially synthetic shroom juice.

Re the law, here in the UK all Tryptamines and Phenethylamines are by default illegal. They completely banned two entire drug families, because as you say, there's another dozen new ones every year to replace the substances they ban individually.

 

[HempKat]

The labels are there strictly to get around the prohibition laws. Everyone who buys mephedrone or MDPV online knows they're buying a drug. Literally no one buys these drugs online and thinks they're bath salts or plant food or whatever. They're clearly labelled with the names of the drugs.

They aren't harmless, specifically the cathinones and other designer stimulants. Cocaine isn't harmless either. I'm just saying the hype is overblown when it comes to the dangers.

I do believe the designer tryptamines are harmless when used responsibly. I've only seen those sold as "research chemicals", not bath salts.

It may be to avoid prohibition but they are also avoiding anything like quality control or safety standards. In doing things the way they do there is no oversight, nothing to make sure the designer drug in question is prepared properly and therefore safe to use. Within the boundaries of what is "safe" when using designer drugs. It's likely that a lot of the media reports are legitimate and that the bad reaction being reported was due to something being off. It's kind of like what happens when pure uncut heroin hits the streets. Everyone expects the heroin to have been stepped on a few times and so they would do a typical dose but if it was pure and uncut the typical dose would be fatal.