Official Summer 2010 Party Cup Challenge

[shroomyshroom]

looking great every body sorry i cant be apart of this challenge but popping in here every day is just as good as having a go at with you guys

my money is still on mossy

 

[FullDuplex]

Glad you came in and stopped by Shroomy.

 

[mossy]

I sure hope so, plus its easy to make and the ingredients are cheep. Plus i can mass produce it

My mother swear by home-made ferts..teas.
Comfrey is her favourite..

Indeed they are, and the trait has changed a little. Its still cloven but its starting to show on all new growth as they form and its highly defined.

Yup..it is the definition that makes me think it is a true trait.
Anomolies/conditional/fert problems tend to be more blurred/blobby/less defined.

If these take i am hoping to see the trait again in the F2's, but if not it will be an IBL and if i at least pass on the line it will be in there somewhere if it doesn't come out in the F2 maybe by three or 4 ill see it again.

Everything that goes in the base cross comes out @ F3..Genetic Fact...
BUT..
you have to have a Big enough test grow @ F3 to be able to find it.

So if you don't see it @ F1 & f2..go on next best selection and make a lot of f3's to be able to hunt it down.

The F's give you a chance to asses the Viability of it turning up...

telling you if the trait is rising into dominance..which means you have a good chance of pinning it down...
or if it is going resessive...which means you probably have more chance of pickiing it up again in another Stage of the grow.

SOME crosses could be a life-times work..you have to be able to work out when to quit.

Luckily..I have been doing it so long..
I watch the plant from conception..watch the balance..and the F's..
then my head works out the odds for me automatic...

and it is almost invariably Right.

got to hand it to ya those black tops are may fav. I cant stop looking at those plants

Yeah...me too..
to see them with the sun behind lighting up the under leaf red was simply stunning.

You have a wonderful talent there and i have to say it i wanna be like you when i grow up lol.

ha ha ha...cheers...I Think you will be...that is why I keep giving you the homework..
just double checking you are on the same lines as me....ha ha

I'm certainly expecting at least 1 Great hybrid cross each out of the breeding Quartets stable by this time next season.

my money is still on mossy

maannn..shroomy...you gonna lose your money......ha ha ha..
BUT..
I have to say...with FullD's PH balanced aerated water..I ain't gonna embarrass myself.

 

[mossy]

this stage on the black made my head soar..
pink to purple in the centre..and the purple coming up from under the leaf...pure beauty..

and this one is etched on me brain...

 

[mossy]

Oh..I forgot to say.
I've germed over 100 of the original black pheno'd AF f1's..

phenotypically..
I have been close to what I want..but no cigar..
(I'm expecting to pick it up @ F3)

But...I germ 1 sodding seed into a small pot to play with..
(from the White pheno no less...)
and phenotypically...
she is exactly what I am looking for.

She is dark budded..no leaf colour yet..but a carbon copy trait wise to the black I want.

Bloody typical......Minx's..

the black Line DC cross..

the Purple AK-47..(I think)..this is the pot that had the double germ...

ALF#3..re-germ..so a week younger..

All 4 are coloured phenos.

 

[shroomyshroom]

those plants are amazing mossy and have inspired me yet again

 

[FullDuplex]

My mother swear by home-made ferts..teas.
Comfrey is her favourite..

in this case i do believe mamma knows best lol

Yup..it is the definition that makes me think it is a true trait.

I would have to agree with this. I see this more as a trait than a mutation due to the fact that it is still there and continues to show and become more defined.

Which brings me to my next point. Got a rather abrasive comment on my profile about how these genes are nothing but hemp genes and that there nothing but trash. Just shows the narrow minded grower who made the comment doesn't realize what marvelous really is. I guess he hasn't made a thorough visit through this thread to see the colors, variations, and versatility of what we are doing.

Everything that goes in the base cross comes out @ F3..Genetic Fact...

Glad to know this, and you can bet if i get some seed in this IBL the next run of the F2's is gonna be a pollen fest. gonna let them start and finish together. I think that will give me what i am looking for.

SOME crosses could be a life-times work..you have to be able to work out when to quit.

This is what i am afraid of to be honest. but i have a little bit of confidence that ill be able to get the ball rolling and know when to quit. but its hard for me to turn down a challenge till i get what i want.

Luckily..I have been doing it so long..
I watch the plant from conception..watch the balance..and the F's..
then my head works out the odds for me automatic...

and it is almost invariably Right.

And i understand this. I am the same when it comes to sexing. I can tell the sex of a plant before it shows most of the time. So far i haven't missed one. But there is one thing that i havent seen in real life and thats a hermi, so my eye is getting better at that looking at the pics here.

to see them with the sun behind lighting up the under leaf red was simply stunning.

I can only imagine, the crimson probably looked as it is was bleeding oh what a site to see

ha ha ha...cheers...I Think you will be...that is why I keep giving you the homework..
just double checking you are on the same lines as me....ha ha

I'm certainly expecting at least 1 Great hybrid cross each out of the breeding Quartets stable by this time next season.

I have to say...with FullD's PH balanced aerated water..I ain't gonna embarrass myself.

I sure hope so and i would like to get a solid hybrid by next year if not two So keep the homework coming as well as the pics and the colors. Im learning a ton from you.

and those cup ladies are looking rather sexy, right now you have me stomped on height, big time! I'm also glad to hear/see that the method is working great for you, cause the girls love it.

 

[FullDuplex]

Oh yeah ...... I am waiting to see some color, as of right now i show no color at all. Still Green/white to the eye. I see the color of the flowers on the three girls above Mossy, and i see that it is early on in the flowering process and shows some serious dark colors. So looks like i may have another white on my hands with this BB but the Foxtail budwider may just start to show color. im itching to see something other than green!! But thats just me and my ADHD

 

[mossy]

Which brings me to my next point. Got a rather abrasive comment on my profile about how these genes are nothing but hemp genes and that there nothing but trash.

You have to consider that he could be absolutely Right..
BUT..
without Proof his opinion is as irrelevant as a gnats fart in a forest.

Hemp canna IS described as having more single leaved traits...
But..
My journey with her has been 9 generations of JEM..each with an excellent harvest..or I wouldn't have kept twirling..
and two on AF..
which were equally pleasing..
5 Years of Fun

Most people don't get anywhere near that kind of pleasure out of any genetic..
so if she turned into a Dog tomorrow..
what have I lost..?...

but i have a little bit of confidence that ill be able to get the ball rolling and know when to quit. but its hard for me to turn down a challenge till i get what i want

It is a curse isn't it...
But a great attribute for a breeder...

I can tell the sex of a plant before it shows most of the time. So far i haven't missed one.

Great for when you multi pot...

But there is one thing that i havent seen in real life and thats a hermi, so my eye is getting better at that looking at the pics here.

Yup..we need to get everyone to post hermie picture here..then at least everyone here in our forums will recognise them.

dargo has a very unusual one in his Mi5 that I had never seen in books or threads...
(crabs leg pistils.....)
I got it and didn't recognise it..someone had to tell me..
I told dargo..and when he checked..it was hermie.

That one definitely needs documenting.


obtw....

But thats just me and my ADHD

has anybody ever mentioned the conection between ADHD and a wheat allergy..?

 

[FullDuplex]

You have to consider that he could be absolutely Right..
BUT..
without Proof his opinion is as irrelevant as a gnats fart in a forest.

This is true, i just get agitated with nonsense, just a tick i guess. But like you said with out the proof its irrelevant. I guess i am kinda out to prove the world wrong about these mighty mights.

My journey with her has been 9 generations of JEM..each with an excellent harvest..or I wouldn't have kept twirling..Most people don't get anywhere near that kind of pleasure out of any genetic..

Exactly, you wouldnt have spent the time and years on something that you didnt see viable. I say if it brings you joy then you have succeeded and that to me is enough

so if she turned into a Dog tomorrow..
what have I lost..?...

Nothing, you've gained a friend

It is a curse isn't it...
But a great attribute for a breeder

and it is

Yup..we need to get everyone to post hermie picture here..then at least everyone here in our forums will recognise them.

dargo has a very unusual one in his Mi5 that I had never seen in books or threads...
(crabs leg pistils.....)

I really would like to see this pic. plus add it to the archive that i am building for reference. But you say crab leg huh? Interesting.

obtw....
has anybody ever mentioned the conection between ADHD and a wheat allergy..?

Never, but im listening....

 

[mossy]

you wouldnt have spent the time and years on something that you didnt see viable.

ha ha..of Course...

But..if she turned into a dog tomorrow..

I have known her since she was a slight leaf deviation in her great great grannys eye..
I know her intimately..she has a blue print on my brain
so she would be a Tool
Because then I would use her blue print as a picture to roll AWAY from.

If she was the best thing since sliced bread..
I would use her blue print to roll towards.


Everything is a tool.

Nothing, you've gained a friend

Yeah..and that friend brought ph balanced water..so hey...we are all laughing...:yay:

But you say crab leg huh? Interesting.

ha ha..My description..don't go say to him can I see your crab legged pistils...
He'll think we are Both Mad..or smoking too much

It is a pistil variation. I makes them look wiggly..instead of straight.
Up close you can see one end of the pistil fattens..then a deviation/twist..
then a thin end..so it looks like crabs legs..or chicken legs..
pistills with a wiggle.

I'll find the post...

 

[mossy]

There she is..that is a hermie too.
The distort makes them look like little legs...
(well..they do to me...)

The clue was that he thought she was over..then she started making more pistils..she was hermying.

Does anyone know if dargo is on holiday or anything..
I'm starting to worry...

 

[Bighill]

I haven't seen him on in ages mossy. I aswell, am wondering where he went. He used to update us all the time.

Hope he is safe.

Bh.

 

[mossy]

Hope he is safe.

Aye m8..me too..

How did your girls get on after that storm..

they were badly damaged..did they pull through..?

 

[mossy]

obtw....
has anybody ever mentioned the conection between ADHD and a wheat allergy..?

Never, but im listening....

 

[mossy]

well..they got throught the deluge....

I think the black line girl is becoming a bit of a show-off....

 

[FullDuplex]

Everything is a tool.

I agree its all part of the work and gears. Take one thing to make it another all building blocks.

Yeah..and that friend brought ph balanced water..so hey...we are all laughing...:yay:

Indeed

He'll think we are Both Mad..or smoking too much
it is a pistil variation. I makes them look wiggly..instead of straight.
Up close you can see one end of the pistil fattens..then a deviation/twist..
then a thin end..so it looks like crabs legs..or chicken legs..
pistills with a wiggle.

I see what you mean here. Its almost as the plant finished and then realized that there was no life being carried on and started to reproduce pistils to make seeds. I bet after this stage some nanners started showing

well..they got throught the deluge....

Glad to hear that

I think the black line girl is becoming a bit of a show-off....

I see this and these have to be some of the prettiest strains ive seen. As always your work my friend is amazing

 

[FullDuplex]

Now this is interesting. i have never heard of this before and now want to research and almost change my diet to see if its related. Just another test i guess

I can tell you this though, canna has been the best solution to date for me and i have been on about every type of med they have out there for this disorder. i dropped it all when i found this at a young age.

I was able to study and pass tests where i used to not be able to sit still. i would sharpen a pencil 50 times during a test just so i didnt have to sit still, after my discovery there was no need..... GPAs were 4.0 in high school and 3.89 in college. I cant complain.

 

[mossy]

Now this is interesting. i have never heard of this before and now want to research and almost change my diet to see if its related. Just another test i guess

Don't run around researching it..I can tell you everything you need to know about it.
It is my area of study..because that is what has caused my nerve damage too.

It comes back to hunter gatherer genes in your genetics.

What you need to do to test is...
stick to a completely meat and veg diet for 5 days.
(No beer/lager I'm afraid..though most wine is okay)

Absolutely NOTHING processed AT ALL.
Most processed food contains gluten in one form or another.

Steak/chicken/pork...chips..or veggies...salad...(homemade dressing)

After 5 days...make yourself a sandwich or some toast...

(For people with swelling arthritis..they will see a Visible difference in the swelling within 1 hour of eating the wheat)

BUT..
for other conditions..
IF you get up the next day with lethargy..and Body Flu...
all your Bones hurt..and you feel like Sh*t..
you have a wheat problem.

Simples..

 

[mossy]