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OFFICIAL ENTRY REQUIREMENTS - 2006 IC Mag Grower & Breeder Cup

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With only 30 Passes and so many ppl wanting to be judges why "chance" it and inturn waste a judges pass if someone did cheat. With the Growers Cup trying to keep it very Legitmate unlike the HTCC. I feel that with the limited passes should be given to the few who haven't entered.
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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....its kinda difficult to control.....if one of the entrants did buy a judges pass under a different name, there is no way to know or really stop that........so my thinking goes like this....:

....even Presidents and Prime Ministers get to vote for themselves in a democracy....

....so if an entrant did buy a judges pass and was able to identify and vote for their erb' or hash....it would just be one vote......one vote out of 30 perhaps.......so could not influence the voting that much.....
 
G

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if i make it...

some concentrates will to...

when is the required entry date? lemme go bak... excited i bee...
 
G

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With saying you couldn't last year to make sure it was fair. And then to allow it this year doesn't make sense to me. And yes i feel it would make a difference if there is only 30 judges . When you judge them 1-10 and there is only 30 judges that score will be reflected off of only 1 pass. As i said before in a Democracy there isn't a limited number of ppl allowed to vote so not the same. Why give the pass to one who enters just sounds like something Arjan would do.
 

sunnyside

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Bex Bissell said:
just sounds like something Arjan would do.

thats cute...if you disagree you can always protest by staying home :confused:

If this competition was about fame or fortune or cash and prizes then your arguement would hold a little more water. In this case, however, it holds none. This is more of a social event then a canna competition. Ask whoever won the cup last year...if you even know who it is. They will tell you that nothing has changed for them. All I am saying is that this should be fun, and light hearted....anything else would be a dis-service.
 
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Yeh i do know who won since i was fukn there. And i will ask them if they show up again. It is " light hearted" and alot of fun but it is a competition which should be fair. And like i said since everyone and there mom wants a Judges pass why sell the limited to few to someone who is entering. I find it kinda strange that they didn't allow that last year but all of a sudden you can do it this year.
 

Dr. D

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I have to agree with Bex here i dont think you should be allowed to enter and judge in the same category..How can you fairly judge your own sample???
Someone else should be judging that sample imo
And id say its quite far from light hearted..although it is all fun..im damn serious about my weed and my growing so id be serious about entering my best weed into this competition..i also take my judging seriously..this is a fair comp thats why people are comin to the 420cup :2cents:
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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....well ...we can discourage entrants from buying Judges passes within the category that they have entered,......but we can't really control that if they purchase a pass under a name that we cannot relate to them........so even if we do make it a firm rule......that rule would be simple to break if someone was dead set on it....

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G

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Yes but a rule would be nice to atleast discourage ppl from cheating and maybe would free up a few passes for the ppl looking to still go.
 

gaiusmarius

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Well it seems like you are convinced that there will be cheaters entering their bud. to be honest i think we would be able to trust people enough that they would be honest about judging.

why start makeing unneeded rules that might even cause less entries and/or less judges. why make it imposible for someone to enter their indica or sativa and then be able to judge all the other indicas or sativas. don't you see how interesting that would be.

with such a rule it would mean one is limited to entering or judging, not both. when both are really the whole reason you came. i want to taste and test what others have grown and i want feedback about my bud from those other growers. whats the big deal? do you see the problem? by wanting to make this a cool event and entering your bud, you would lose the honour and fun of judging all the others. and if you have to chose between judging and entering, it might end up costing entries as well as sold judges passes. specially those that wish to enter all three cattagories would then have to go around begging a sample here and there of what others entered, to get an idea of whats been grown around the globe by fellow ic magers.

if someone feels they are in a conflict of interest they can always ask someone else to judge their particular sample. if they can even find it amongst all the same looking samples.
 

Dr. D

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if someone feels they are in a conflict of interest they can always ask someone else to judge their particular sample. if they can even find it amongst all the same looking samples.
i think this is exactly what should be done..it is not fair at all to judge your own entry imo..... :joint:
 

sunnyside

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gaiusmarius said:
Well it seems like you are convinced that there will be cheaters entering their bud. to be honest i think we would be able to trust people enough that they would be honest about judging.

why start makeing unneeded rules that might even cause less entries and/or less judges. why make it imposible for someone to enter their indica or sativa and then be able to judge all the other indicas or sativas. don't you see how interesting that would be.

with such a rule it would mean one is limited to entering or judging, not both. when both are really the whole reason you came. i want to taste and test what others have grown and i want feedback about my bud from those other growers. whats the big deal? do you see the problem? by wanting to make this a cool event and entering your bud, you would lose the honour and fun of judging all the others. and if you have to chose between judging and entering, it might end up costing entries as well as sold judges passes. specially those that wish to enter all three cattagories would then have to go around begging a sample here and there of what others entered, to get an idea of whats been grown around the globe by fellow ic magers.

if someone feels they are in a conflict of interest they can always ask someone else to judge their particular sample. if they can even find it amongst all the same looking samples.


that is my stance too...if this is a problem with everyone else I suppose I will not be entering...I will bring some to share with the folks I wanna share with. The only people who will be missing out are the judges. :)

I guess I still dont understand why someone would want to cheat in a competition as 'friendly' as this one...or why someone would want to go through all that hard work cultivating this supreme herb, taking the time to mail an ounce of the best of the best...and then cheat to win. It makes no sense to me, but I suppose I am an honest person, and I expected more out of a site full of adults.
 
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Why doesn't it make sense. You Enter YOUR weed and YOU want it to be ranked high. If you enter and judge you are a cheater to me.
 

GreatLakes THC

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gaiusmarius said:
...if someone feels they are in a conflict of interest they can always ask someone else to judge their particular sample. if they can even find it amongst all the same looking samples.

Having not been to a growers cup yet, this sounds like a fair solution to me. Some of you guys and gals that have been there before and now want to enter, well, this means more to you. But really, unless others were involved in a concerted effort, it's just one vote. Hardly enough to skew anything in my opinion. Good luck to Everyone.

GreatLakes THC :joint:
 

gaiusmarius

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think about it man, if your bud is shit you can vote for yourself all you like but its still shit and wouldn't win just cause you voted for it. as there will be 29 other cannabis lovers who will judge it fairly.

as long as no one tries to influence others we will have an honest cup. (even should someone try to make their strain win by voteing for it) just do the maths and you will see that it maters not. if say your strain is so good that its just about to win, then its not wrong if you also feel its worthy of wining is it? but no one judge can cause a given entry to win on his or her say so alone. so relax will ya?

i still believe that most judges are going to this cup, with the intention of doing the best job possible, judging the samples they are entrusted with, with no ulterior motives, other than discovering the best bud at the cup.

peace out
gm
 

sunnyside

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its all good bex...we will just have to agree to disagree. I wish you well and hope to meet you at the cup! :)
 
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<<i still believe that most judges are going to this cup, with the intention of doing the best job possible, judging the samples they are entrusted with, with no ulterior motives, other than discovering the best bud at the cup>>

Exactly, gaiusmarius. At least that's how I will approach it.

And with 40+ samples to smoke...who's gonna have time to play such childish games or worry about such nonsense?

Not I. I'm there to find the tastiest/stoniest/nicest looking weed entered in the Comp.

;-)~
 
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