Official DEA Statement on Medical Marijuana

[bterzz]

Why do they make this seem as there primary concern

"Consistent with the DOJ guidelines, we will continue to identify and investigate any criminal organization or individual who unlawfully grows, markets or distributes marijuana.."

when THIS should be there main concern..


"Those who unlawfully possess firearms, commit acts of violence, provide drugs to minors, or have ties to other criminal organizations may also be subject to arrest."

 

[grouchy]

Why do they make this seem as there primary concern

"Consistent with the DOJ guidelines, we will continue to identify and investigate any criminal organization or individual who unlawfully grows, markets or distributes marijuana.."

when THIS should be there main concern..


"Those who unlawfully possess firearms, commit acts of violence, provide drugs to minors, or have ties to other criminal organizations may also be subject to arrest."

The government tackled this issue a long time ago with their "if it aint broke, fix it till it is" policy

Now it's broke.

 

[Spacecadet01]

my question is; if i'm growing my own medically now and following state law

can i own a gun?

yes you can. But Im sure no matter what state your in you can not possess a gun at your grow. Thats a major fed no no. So if your grow is in your house no gun in the house. But you can posses one as long as you arent carrying it when you possess MMJ. So basically no guns around anything to do with MMJ. Hope this helps.

SC

 

[opt1c]

yeah that was my question; did the dea, they r the feds who kick down your door yes, change their policy with this statement? Seems like it "may" be possible to lawfully posses a firearm now if you are a med grower compliant with state law. State laws say nothing about medical/gun issues; at least in california.

 

[Spacecadet01]

yeah that was my question; did the dea, they r the feds who kick down your door yes, change their policy with this statement? Seems like it "may" be possible to lawfully posses a firearm now if you are a med grower compliant with state law. State laws say nothing about medical/gun issues; at least in california.

intersting question...lets asume you did possess one at your grow and had to use it..you might be falling into the category of illegal use of a firearm. Def a question for an attorney in your state.

 

[cobcoop]

You realize the DEA is present (has offices) in nearly every country on the planet?
In every country they spread their lying propaganda, orchestrate huge anti-pot campaigns (UK & Holland two recent examples), provide intel, money and resources to bust marijuana growers and users.

Good reading on this topic is Gary Webb's Dark Alliance.

 

[j6p]

Old news, but this fits in with what we have been seeing so much of.

In the Netherlands, both the Dutch government and the DEA have been criticized for violations of Dutch sovereignty in drug investigations. According to Peter R. de Vries, a Dutch journalist present at the 2005 trial of Henk Orlando Rommy, the DEA has admitted to activities on Dutch soil. Earlier, then minister of justice Piet Hein Donner, had denied to the Dutch parliament that he had given permission to the DEA for any such activities, which would have been a requirement by Dutch law in order to allow foreign agents to act within the territory.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-30">[31]</sup>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_Enforcement_Administration

 

[dmt]

is there still a market for mexi shwag these days?

i got it: decrim pot, lisence its production, sale and consumption, tax all parties substantially with fees and wavers, force production into local factories(you and me)add the first footstep in the right direction for a wealthier, healthier world. the truth will set us free, d

 

[Amithia420]

I can still get mexi shwag for roughly 60$ an O. here in cali.

Sadly your hopes of "local factories(you and me)" is a lie and will turn into large corporations owning and selling it to us and stealing every last one of our hard earned $'s. Whether it's "legalized" or correctly decriminalized, I don't want to be purchasing crappy low grade weed in joints by the pack from marlboro.

 

[Darkstarlive]

Yeah, that dangerous drug marijuana compared to that completely innoccuous drug alchohol.....lets see the DEA stand up to the spirits and brewery companies.

 

[Stay Puft]

As *Mistress* pointed out:
The DEA statement is all well and good, but the Federal Government needs to remove Cannabis from its schedule 1 status now! Everything else is BS lip service. So they intend on "selectively" enforcing Federal laws? That could lead to serious problems/corruption.
At a minimum-Cannabis should be changed to a schedule 2 substance and MMS revised or done away with entirely.
From USDOJ website:

-CITE-
21 USC Sec. 812 01/22/02
-EXPCITE-
TITLE 21 - FOOD AND DRUGS CHAPTER 13 - DRUG ABUSE PREVENTION AND CONTROL SUBCHAPTER I - CONTROL AND ENFORCEMENT Part B - Authority To Control; Standards and Schedules

-HEAD-
Sec. 812. Schedules of controlled substances

-STATUTE-

(a) Establishment There are established five schedules of controlled substances, to be known as schedules I, II, III, IV, and V. Such schedules shall initially consist of the substances listed in this section. The schedules established by this section shall be updated and republished on a semiannual basis during the two-year period beginning one year after October 27, 1970, and shall be updated and republished on an annual basis thereafter.

(b) Placement on schedules; findings required Except where control is required by United States obligations under an international treaty, convention, or protocol, in effect on October 27, 1970, and except in the case of an immediate precursor, a drug or other substance may not be placed in any schedule unless the findings required for such schedule are made with respect to such drug or other substance. The findings required for each of the schedules are as follows:

(1) Schedule I. -

(A) The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse.

(B) The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.

(C) There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision.

Current State laws [and medical opinions] confirm that Cannabis fails conditions B and C of the schedule 1 requirements. Please revise the schedule as required by you own "guidelines" now!
Regards,
Puft

 

[cateros]

What I personally think is they should forget about taxing it if its made legal they should instead have every person who grows weed pay a licensing fee of 15$ per plant per person so if you grow 30 plants at a time you pay $450 a year with the current number of Cannabis users if they could all start growing there own even at say a licence of $100 each I am betting income to the govt would be something like 1500000000 just for licensing which when you take into account how long it takes to start being able to actually grow decent bud when starting out and your only source of info is a book or the web I am imagining they would see much higher revenues per licensed grower for much less decent Ganja. Where if they tax it there would be far more good bud if its sold retail so in a revenue VS total product alalysis I would be willing to bet that a license to grow would make more money and there would be less bud around . Basically just enough to so that the people who want it wouldnt go without but in no way enough to create a surplus. And anyways if they tax it then there will always be a black market think of it this way how many of you would rather pay 150$ for an ounce compared to $150 +sales tax the way I see it I would rather save $10 every time I buy instead of giving it to the govt

 

[Kola Radical]

Get rid of the lying, scumbag government and the rest will sort itself out.

 

[TwinTurboGuy]

Seems like the DEA gets the hit from the MMJ community when in fact, they are just agents doing their job. This is a misunderstanding that everyone in this community seem to possess. Although the DEA investigate and plan raids, they are merely puppets in American politics. I know its painful to see someone terminally ill or a friend to be racked up by these agents. And I feel the same as everyone here, but I'm just telling you guys the reality of things.

Do you guys actually think the DEA has the power to just simply stop the raids? NO. Instead of setting focus on the agency, its the high end policy makers and those that have billions of dollars invested into the tobacco and drug industry that put all this into place.

There is just too much money at stake in those industries. Politicians and investors will do everything in their power to lobby against us, and again, it will be just an endless cycle. Best thing to do is to consult and push our policy makers to give us our state rights. As for federal laws, I don't see anything great happening until they remove THC as a Schedule I drug.

 

[baan]

It's not like they are the plumber who works all day to put food on the table, stuck in a job they don't want to be in. Those guys seem proud to take medicine away from sick people. If they really didn't want to take medicine away from sick people, they would ignore the sick people part of it, and look the other way instead of throwing them in jail.

Also keep in mind that the dea is responsible for a good portion of the brainwashing that goes on.

But I agree with you there, on the fact that the entire system is broken (especially against us), rather than just one small part of it. There needs to be change on a deeper level.

 

[Danknuggler]

Fuck the DEA.

 

[kb5178]

Fuck the DEA.

WORD

and for those coming in saying dont hate on the DEA,there just doing there job,get a clue!

statements like that are comparable to saying the people of the SS were just doing their job to a group of holocaust survivors.

have you ever witnessed a DEA raid?

had your dog shot?

your home destroyed?

Your head smashed with the but of a gun?

your face stepped on by a combat boot?

Your freedom taken?

Your property sold?

seen your friend die in a prison?

ITS WAR,THERE WAR SO PLEASE DONT MAKE ECUSES FOR THEM.

 

[kmk420kali]

yes you can. But Im sure no matter what state your in you can not possess a gun at your grow. Thats a major fed no no. So if your grow is in your house no gun in the house. But you can posses one as long as you arent carrying it when you possess MMJ. So basically no guns around anything to do with MMJ. Hope this helps.

SC

Not really-- The only issue is "Possession of a Firearm during the commission of a Felony--
As long as there is no Felony, there is no charge for the gun, as long as you have it legally--
Nothing specifically to do with MMJ tho--
Peace--

 

[Spacecadet01]

Not really-- The only issue is "Possession of a Firearm during the commission of a Felony--
As long as there is no Felony, there is no charge for the gun, as long as you have it legally--
Nothing specifically to do with MMJ tho--
Peace--

I see your point...which makes sense. I was told by my attorney that in CO possession of a firearm at your grow even if it the grow is legal is not OK. He specifically told me to not have my guns near my grow. I dont doubt this will differ from state to state. If someone from CO has heard different please chime in..Im open hear other opinions on this.

 

[kmk420kali]

I see your point...which makes sense. I was told by my attorney that in CO possession of a firearm at your grow even if it the grow is legal is not OK. He specifically told me to not have my guns near my grow. I dont doubt this will differ from state to state. If someone from CO has heard different please chime in..Im open hear other opinions on this.

Actually, that was good advice from your Atty...because if the Feds come in, there will be a Felony--
I am not pro-guns at grows...I personally don't have one--