Awesome build.. wish I had caught this thread sooner!
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octagon growketel project 800w
Update!:
so now everything is dry and i can talk about my experience with this system!
first up im gonna talk about the yield:
i had 4 diffrent strains going - 2 walls of chronic and shiva skunk - 2 1/2 walls white widow and 1 1/4 super skunk the last 1/4 was some sensi star (which im not gonna take into consideration)
i knew from the beginning on that the white widow was not suitable for this system and this was now confirmed now. the widow cut i got is a quality one which doesnt produce well at all - we smoked a minimal amount and i was to stoned to work on for about 2 hours, it was a crazy experience - denfinetly one of the strongest this far but my major goal was to have a very high yield from 250w and the widow did fail 2 1/2 walls gave me just about 40g dry (i was shocked when i saw the numbers on the scale) - thats just 16g per wall (and it did take over a lot of space in the system due to the very high growth rate it had)
-WHITE WIDOW IS NO VERTICAL STRAIN!
the next one was shiva skunk which obviously had the same problems as the white widow had - it produced very nice buds and had a lot of space but well - gave me ONLY 15g per wall which really did disappoint me - unlike the yield the quality seems to be a very good one - a more of a relaxed stone but still very strong and i did take a picture of what i smoked just to give you an idea of which kind of amounts im talking about:
but still - the yield was shitty as hell
shiva skunk does not seem to be the big producer im searching for!
the next strain im gonna talk about is a very well known commercial strain and well it did impress me: chronic - it gave me a yield which is about 30g per wall so if i would have run the system chronic only i might have ended up with about 240g dry which would have been incredible. i cant say much about the quality because i couldnt really try it out yet.
the last strain was the biggest suprise yet: super skunk - it pretty much didnt get ny light because it was too short of a plant and the chronic and widow beside it took nearly all the light. when i took down the plants i looked at the buds and was like: its gonna be alright - maybe 15g or 20 - now i trimmed it today and i wasnt impressed either - didnt look much to me - and then i threw it on the scale and it said: 30g - i couldnt belive it and took a look at the scale because it obviously didnt work right but the next measurement was exactly the same! so 24g per wall - not bad for a couple of plants which didnt get much light.
so i now end up with 160g dry and well its a ok result but i would have expected at least over 180g but i guess there are several reasons for my ''failure'':
-wrong strain choice
-overgrown system
-first time in use
-old bulb
dope pictues gonna follow!
so long - if there are questions please ask!
for my 800w project: its not gonna happen in the next time because of two reasons - i dont have a whole room for growing only anymore and the results i got from this system werent good enough to have a big one build.
im thinking about running the 250w again (super skunk and chronic each 4 walls) and maybe in the future even gonna build a rotogrow (maybe)
lets see - cheers
great post in in general a very good and informative thread
ive had to postpone my vertical project for now but ill for sure find inspiration in your grow once i start it
keep it green
Mr.Jones
Active member
yeah im gonna use this experience for my next experiment
i plan it to be revolutionary!
hm yeah that doesnt sound so good ...
well i should be able to deal with the stretch by choosing the right time to flip!
well - the first run is over but lets see what happens! maybe someone is in for rebuilding it
at the moment im horizontal for a sec! but i plan on building a new system soon!
i hope it is
... if i can help i would love to!you got any idea how much watts you wanna use?
isthislegal
Member
that was a sick build for a first timer. I was searching for vertical grows and your first post sounds like me. I am very impressed with your build and your result. seems like the perfect little system for med patients who only need a small yield. Perfect this system and market it bro. Just make it as cheap as possible and you could have a hit on your hands.
C
cs70
Mr.Jones a lot of respect
Mr.Jones a lot of respect
hey guys its crazy ,mr.Jones u have very strong will and personality ,that is rare in today times ,its not some babys project its fucking huge ,how many hours invested ,i go with u in war Mr.Jones ,u should build this systems and sell it mate good potential with ur skills man
keep up the excellent job mate
best regards
Mr.Jones a lot of respect
hey guys its crazy ,mr.Jones u have very strong will and personality ,that is rare in today times ,its not some babys project its fucking huge ,how many hours invested ,i go with u in war Mr.Jones ,u should build this systems and sell it mate good potential with ur skills man
keep up the excellent job mate
best regards
C
cs70
hey there
hey there
hey u joker ,for sure u can do it man ,i am sure Mr.Jones can do everything lol
so whats up man ?
i also start new project but small stealth one ,the situation just getting worse, so i adapt myself
my most headec know Mr.Jones , is can i squeeze 250 HPS light and 200M²/H FAN ,and filter in box that mesures 1M20 heigh,50CM long,45 CM bright ?
anyway i am gladd to see u
best regards
hey there
thanks alot man
i appreciate it ... im kinda brainstorming a new project but i dont know if its possible for me to make it work!
hey u joker ,for sure u can do it man ,i am sure Mr.Jones can do everything lol
so whats up man ?
i also start new project but small stealth one ,the situation just getting worse, so i adapt myself
my most headec know Mr.Jones , is can i squeeze 250 HPS light and 200M²/H FAN ,and filter in box that mesures 1M20 heigh,50CM long,45 CM bright ?
anyway i am gladd to see u
best regards
erwingruber
Member
Hello Mr.Jones i was reading your grow log ... you have AMAZING DIY skills , i have hard times to connect 2 buckets and you build a vertical system
What is going on with your construction any grows running ?
What do you have in mind ?
I believe that you can make everything to work.
Respect
What is going on with your construction any grows running ?
What do you have in mind ?
I believe that you can make everything to work.
Respect
Mr.Jones
Active member
Hello Mr.Jones i was reading your grow log ... you have AMAZING DIY skills , i have hard times to connect 2 buckets and you build a vertical system
What is going on with your construction any grows running ?
What do you have in mind ?
I believe that you can make everything to work.
Respect
at the moment im going flat - im diying alot lately ... but nothing concerning vertical! my next room setup i will build could be a diy roto. but i just dont have the time at the moment! (im into optimizing my room climate and nutrient solution - the time that is done im gonna start builing new systems
)
very nice mr j . how do you keep the plants from flopping down? did i miss something?
Mr.Jones
Active member
well what will you do to keep them positioned right when their fat and heavy? or is you strain not much of a stretcher? my buds wouldnt stand out straight when they were sideways without support. not one strain i got. you must be planning something good for support.
Mr.Jones
Active member
actually the number of plants and the low wattage i was running werent allowing too fat buds:
calculation my goal 250w - 250g;
that would be 250:64 that would be around 4g per plant;
4g x 5 would be a 20g wet weight - guess they can hold that;
if the wattage would be much higher as well as the expected yield, one needs to be real careful! but in my case i wasnt going thru alot of trouble concerning this issue ...
calculation my goal 250w - 250g;
that would be 250:64 that would be around 4g per plant;
4g x 5 would be a 20g wet weight - guess they can hold that
;if the wattage would be much higher as well as the expected yield, one needs to be real careful! but in my case i wasnt going thru alot of trouble concerning this issue ...
sheepfarmer
New member
suggest folded mylar or any reflective matrial in vvvvvvv wwwwww folds on backwall will reflect well on octagon shape so to cut down on lights needed. THIS is how ideas grow into reality.........good growing.
