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Obama Declares All-Out War on Medical Marijuana

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Rainman

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So nice to see the same old tired crew spouting the same old tired arguements with the same old tired pseudo racists comments. The irony is these were the same members shouting at the top of their lungs at how bad MMJ will be under Obama 2 years ago and how McBush was better!! Truth is its worse than ever but for none of the reasons anyone here has given. MMJ openned the doors for millions of people in Cali to light up legally under "medical" requirements and grow(whether they could or not). The people making a shit ton of money are now your local Disp. and the grow shops who sell you overpriced nutes and equipment from China or buds at higher rates than you find on any corner. They have made it so any fool with a empty room and some lights thinks they can be a cannabis biz genius money maker. Too funny. So instead of the feds we fear the middie grower who thinks his dirt weed is some how top grade. Keep blaming the gov for your woes and stoking fear with your posts. The only thing other states have to fear with these memos is your grandmomma deciding she can be a expert grower!!! What happened to all thosee raids and terrible doom Obama was gonna bring down on the community!!! You guys are like the preacher who keeps warning us the end of the world is comin! He has been wrong every time, like you cats, and has about as much respect in his community as you do!! Keep growing or keep crying wolf. JJ is right and you have never had it so good as a grower or smoker.
 

bentom187

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So nice to see the same old tired crew spouting the same old tired arguements with the same old tired pseudo racists comments. The irony is these were the same members shouting at the top of their lungs at how bad MMJ will be under Obama 2 years ago and how McBush was better!! Truth is its worse than ever but for none of the reasons anyone here has given. MMJ openned the doors for millions of people in Cali to light up legally under "medical" requirements and grow(whether they could or not). The people making a shit ton of money are now your local Disp. and the grow shops who sell you overpriced nutes and equipment from China or buds at higher rates than you find on any corner. They have made it so any fool with a empty room and some lights thinks they can be a cannabis biz genius money maker. Too funny. So instead of the feds we fear the middie grower who thinks his dirt weed is some how top grade. Keep blaming the gov for your woes and stoking fear with your posts. The only thing other states have to fear with these memos is your grandmomma deciding she can be a expert grower!!! What happened to all thosee raids and terrible doom Obama was gonna bring down on the community!!! You guys are like the preacher who keeps warning us the end of the world is comin! He has been wrong every time, like you cats, and has about as much respect in his community as you do!! Keep growing or keep crying wolf. JJ is right and you have never had it so good as a grower or smoker.

thats not a reasonable/respectable /intelligent/logical comment i can only hope the rest of the cali residents dont see it this way.

i dont even see the racisim thats supposidley going on here.
 

Red Fang

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At no time did Obama say he was going to legalize marijuana. But you guys can spin it any way you like. It's your story.....

And yes I'm in the United States. And I've seen firsthand the dispensories grow in numbers while Obama has been President. Do a Google search and learn something. I also know 2 people that are in prison still to this day for MM while Bush was in Office that wouldn't be under the current Obama policies.... How quickly people forget......

I also remember telling the people from Cali that wanted 19 to fail that if it did the Govt was going to see what was going on and they would crack down on things because of the amount of money people were making. It's the way it is people. The Govt isn't going to continue to let people make tons of tax free dollars. You had a chance to legalize. You chose not to. What do you expect? They're going to get their piece of the pie one way or another. It's the way it is, and it's the way it's going to continue to be. I wish it wasn't that way, but it is......

I could not have said it better! thanks man for that excellent post!

don't you have a dispensary in coloradobig herb, so of course you would say that. excuse me if im mistaken.

i care more about the economy and all. I don't pick a president based on marijuana views alone. They all lie about it or think it's a joke anyways. Remember obama laughing at the 'internet community' when marijuana was the top voted topic on that stupid ass change.org site?

wow that's the first time I ever heard someone say Obama was a one issue candidate for pot! :D Dispensary or not, what difference does it make? He's right!

Ya fuck Obama. We should have put McCain in power. He would have wiped your ass, packed your bong and transplanted and trimmed all your crops....

Fucking demented half brows. All presidents are fucking self interest clowns. You just pick the lesser of the scumbags and if you think Obama is shot when it comes to MJ or MMJ, just try to imagine McCain's position. At least Obama has smoked weed and admitted to it, while saying he thinks mmj does have benefits, unlike McCain who was flat out against any and all use.*

Grow the fuck up and realise we are lucky to have Obama rather than some batshit crazy anti drug zealot hell bent on persecution of all MJ users, growers, producers and distributors...

Exactly. I voted for Obama, and granted I thought he was going to do a lot more than he did and not allow himself to be bullied by the right. I am profoundly disappointed he did not fight harder and that he was not liberal enough. But at least with him we have a chance, and even knowing what I know now, I would do it all over again. He was the best viable option, and he still is. With a 2nd term, maybe he will finally feel free to do what he really wants and that may include better mj policies. If not, he won't be any worse than any other president we've had since the 1980's. If you elect one of those other assclowns as someone so eloquently put it, things will be a lot worse. It is a shame some are so tied up in negative emotions that they can't see straight and think before talking!
 

headband 707

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So nice to see the same old tired crew spouting the same old tired arguements with the same old tired pseudo racists comments. The irony is these were the same members shouting at the top of their lungs at how bad MMJ will be under Obama 2 years ago and how McBush was better!! Truth is its worse than ever but for none of the reasons anyone here has given. MMJ openned the doors for millions of people in Cali to light up legally under "medical" requirements and grow(whether they could or not). The people making a shit ton of money are now your local Disp. and the grow shops who sell you overpriced nutes and equipment from China or buds at higher rates than you find on any corner. They have made it so any fool with a empty room and some lights thinks they can be a cannabis biz genius money maker. Too funny. So instead of the feds we fear the middie grower who thinks his dirt weed is some how top grade. Keep blaming the gov for your woes and stoking fear with your posts. The only thing other states have to fear with these memos is your grandmomma deciding she can be a expert grower!!! What happened to all thosee raids and terrible doom Obama was gonna bring down on the community!!! You guys are like the preacher who keeps warning us the end of the world is comin! He has been wrong every time, like you cats, and has about as much respect in his community as you do!! Keep growing or keep crying wolf. JJ is right and you have never had it so good as a grower or smoker.

Yes it is true that one could argue that perhaps compared to other oppressed nations we have it better our right are not stepped on and so on.
I say they are ...because I'm educated I know better and what better for myself and stive to do better.
I am old enough and smart enough to make this decision about cannabis and I certianly don't need the Gov. in my life regulatating yet another thing for me. I have have quite enough of that thanks.
The question here in Canada is now going to be taking it out of everyones hands and putting it into the Gov. hand once and for all as this was always their intention. Just like alcohol they will be the ones making the cash and no one else . Everyone had to see that one comin. lol..They are just putting in a new system here in BC costing over 1 billion dollars from BC Hydro they say it's about ppl stealing hydro from grow ops lol .. Guess who gets to pay for that little ditty!! You get ripped off here everywhere you look.. Good luck cause your going to need it with these assholes....peace out Headband707:comfort:
 
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Tripp Inmiasov

I have to LOL when I see so many narcs here supporting the funniest narc of them all...Obummer!
 
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Tripp Inmiasov

And if you have any doubt at all...look up the word "narcissist".
 

delta9nxs

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Quote by tony clifton

“you need to put down the glass of cool-aid and have someone punch you in the face!!!"

PEACE

T.C.”


peace, punch you in the face, peace, punch you in the face, peace, punch you in the face! Well, which is it, tony?


Quotes by blinkisback

“Don't take what I'm about to say personally, please.”

“like the 'douche bag' who's post I quoted, thinking everything is going wonderfully and anything they aren't doing well with is Bush's fault. Amazing that is STILL and argument. What happened to Obama's promise of if he can't turn the economy around in 3 years he's out on his own.”

how the fuck am I supposed to take it, blink? douche bag, ass hat, twatface, four eyes, fart blossom, shit for brains, queer bait. Sounds like the 4th grade. your senior year? When you call people names you are attempting to define them for your own convenience, by defining them in your terms you put them in little boxes that make it easier to de-humanize them. See “hitler” or “kkk”. You'll never be right.

Tony and blink, can we say “cultural schizophrenia”?

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enough fun! Really the only people here who are pissed are the ones growing in medical states whose little illegal ops that go beyond the medical allowances put them in jeopardy. If you complied with your state laws you wouldn't be worried.

I live in a state with no compassion and make a modest living from it illegally as well as give away enough to supply the needs of 5 other medically challenged people who can't even afford to buy it. I do this at great risk and the penalties here are medieval. But i'm not whining. I'm fully cognizant and made these decisions willfully.

I wish it were legal here so I could pay my fair share of taxes and be respectable white trash.

Don't use others needs and suffering as an excuse and justification for your greed.

By the way, every republican president after nixon's first term including the 2nd nixon/ford term left an increased deficit. Every democratic president since roosevelt has decreased the deficit.
Gw left a 20% deficit increase which is the largest in history and his father before him left a 15% one. It will take more than 2 years to straighten out the mess left by gw. He bankrupted the country. If you don't believe me check the general accounting office of the us gov.

I am neither a republican nor a democrat. If ron paul gets the nomination I will vote for him because of his stance on cannabis.

Imagine where you would be right now if mccain/palin had been elected. Mccain stated unequivocably that he wouldn't even consider a change in federal policy.

And did you really want sarah palin a 72 year olds heartbeat away from the presidency? Pretty fucking scary.

Delta9nxs
Passive Plant Killer
 

Sgt.Stedenko

Crotchety Cabaholic
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Do I understand this correctly?
Most of you would vote for a presidential candidate based on their position on legalizing MJ, but would casually look the other way as they steer us down the road to economic ruin?
No wonder this country is so fucked.
Me, me, me, me, me.
 

mad librettist

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Do I understand this correctly?
Most of you would vote for a presidential candidate based on their position on legalizing MJ, but would casually look the other way as they steer us down the road to economic ruin?
No wonder this country is so fucked.
Me, me, me, me, me.

you think its selfish for people to prioritize the end of prohibition, which would allow them to come out from the shadows without risking their freedom and the well being of their loved ones?

Consider that you can't vote at all from prison.
 

Tony Aroma

Let's Go - Two Smokes!
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Really the only people here who are pissed are the ones growing in medical states whose little illegal ops that go beyond the medical allowances put them in jeopardy.

How about the people in states like AZ and NJ who were waiting for word from the feds before implementing their programs? This is all the justification mmj opponents need to shut down or never start up their programs. Or what about existing, totally legal dispensaries whose banks and credit card companies have now been told very unambiguously they are subject to prosecution just for handling the proceeds from (federally) illegal drug transactions? Doesn't matter if any of the AG's threats are ever followed up. They only need to put the fear of the DEA into a relatively few people to throw a monkey wrench into the progress that's been made in recent years.

Sort of like how terrorists don't need to actually kill anybody to make people do some crazy things. Just the threat of some new kind of terrorist plot has led to government-sanctioned child molesting in our airports. Fear alone is sufficient, and the feds are counting on that to keep their war alive.
 

BiG H3rB Tr3E

"No problem can be solved from the same level of c
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Do I understand this correctly?
Most of you would vote for a presidential candidate based on their position on legalizing MJ, but would casually look the other way as they steer us down the road to economic ruin?
No wonder this country is so fucked.
Me, me, me, me, me.


I look at it like this, any president with the COMMON SENSE to further the progression of our society through revoking the police state style policies that is reserved for our most non-threatening of citizens over something that harms nobody, probably will be the same president who will make the actions that others are afraid to do out of fear of their political career.

Too many people look at marijuana and think "oh well, its just some weed we have more imporant issues...." not really taking the time to realize how many billions of dollars are wasted on keeping marijuana illegal. How many lifes are ruined over having a record / going to jail. How many crimes go unsolved because police are busy with petty marijuana crimes. How many peoples freedoms are infringed on over something as harmless as weed. How many people are killed over robberies or raids...

Its not just about weed, its about the right to live a life without fear... Its the right to being an american in a society we claim to be free. Drugs are a social problem, not a criminal one. We should let doctors treat the sickest in our community, not judges.
 
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paladin420

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How about the people in states like AZ and NJ who were waiting for word from the feds before implementing their programs? This is all the justification mmj opponents need to shut down or never start up their programs. Or what about existing, totally legal dispensaries whose banks and credit card companies have now been told very unambiguously they are subject to prosecution just for handling the proceeds from (federally) illegal drug transactions? Doesn't matter if any of the AG's threats are ever followed up. They only need to put the fear of the DEA into a relatively few people to throw a monkey wrench into the progress that's been made in recent years.

Sort of like how terrorists don't need to actually kill anybody to make people do some crazy things. Just the threat of some new kind of terrorist plot has led to government-sanctioned child molesting in our airports. Fear alone is sufficient, and the feds are counting on that to keep their war alive.

Yes Sir. and if anyone out there thinks this will speed up card processin in Med states, then you have never met a beauracrat
 
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Tripp Inmiasov

There are some here that understand the world a little more than others. I'll be the first to admit I have no clue why political operatives inflict such damage on a nation of gullible souls...but...I think I have a damn good idea.

Don't take my comments as political-leaning one way or the other. I'm registered "independent". I don't "conform" to left wing or right wing. I'm not going to be controlled by empty rhetoric from anyone.

Over the years I have observed a two party political system that uses government policy and various forms of media communication to inflict their agendas on a sometimes very naive people.

The solutions to most problems in any nation are very obvious. You cannot name one major problem that any nation is experiencing that does not have a simple solution. The solution may not be in the best interests of everyone, but there is always a simple solution.

Most people are convinced that only the "elite" can understand and resolve the issues facing us today. That's total bullshit! Almost anyone can look at a problem and, given the proper information, recommend a common sense solution.

Be it the prohition of cannabis, the soaring national debt, unemployment or the energy issues we face...ANYONE can recommend a solution that will succeed. The only exception are those people who are mentally disabled or politically/financially motivated.

No member here can point out an important issue that afflicts a nation that cannot be resolved.

The only brick walls that stand in our way of improving life for all...are pride, greed, laziness and ignorance.
 

dagnabit

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we got some definite
cheerleader.jpg
up in here!!!

obusha threatens local governors of states considering mmj... it's ok he has his reasons we still love him..

obusha bullies states with mmj laws...it's ok he has his reasons we still love him.

obusha kidnaps and tortures U.S. citizens for growing a plant...it's ok we still love him... he has his reasons.

when will the cheerleaders from both sides wake up and realize (R) and (D) are just Research and Development for their corporate masters on how better to fuck you?

you get a token from either side and the rest are all the same.
 
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