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Oaxacan Landraces the people the history the plants entheogens

acespicoli

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Oaxacan via Getty :huggg: thanks brother
 

acespicoli

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Oaxacan x Panama via @dubi the Ox S1s were fantastic so lots of hope here
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took me a little while to get back to these and im always searching for the best Oaxacan and nearby strains
dubi was kind enough to share this project you can see the details
here
the outcross to offset the endogamy below
 
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polarlynx

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Very nice thread, @acespioli ! I'd love to go to Mexico (again), but it's very far, and travel has been difficult for me. I did visit 40 years ago, but only a few days. Some day I'm sure I will go back, not for cannabis but for archeological interest. And the food :D! (Ok, maybe a little mota is needed ;)). But I'm a little scared too, what we get to hear about crime in Mexico is terrifying :(.

Never grew any Oaxacan, only the "Mexican" by Sensi, very far from the real thing and not very nice.

Very nice plants you have there, best vibes for your grow!

peace & love,
pl
 

acespicoli

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Where is the skepticism coming from?

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If I may, when people look at Mexican and Colombian cannabis lines there is the expectation of narrow leaf type drug cultivars, the one aspect often overlooked is the leaves will start rather wide an then narrrow later in flowering.

Some thinks to note:
  • In the upper USA Mexican lines may finish before frosts
  • Your Colombians may not finish outdoors before frosts, with the exception of southern states
  • Though the leaves are wider than expected the flowers effects will usually be very upbeat and sativa
Just some personal thoughts, id expect others to have different experiences as well
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Most of my recent Oaxaca strain experiences are of 9-13 fingered leaves pinnate, widely spaced not overlapping finely toothed serrations to doubly serrate, lanceolate

Red and purple common on leaf an stems

Terpene's rich wood, spice, incense


I have not tried the black pearl strain it is sold by HFH and seems to be similar to a old Colombian Strain
I have no reason at all to doubt the integrity of the seller and when we see the above plant in flower
It is indeed a beautiful example from a trusted IC brother thanks for sharing @Tranquilidade :huggg:

Im looking forward to your description of La Perla Negra :pirate: always reminds me of the Movie ;)
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As a young pirate, Jack Sparrow was first given command of the Wicked Wench by Captain Morgan in a naval battle against Captain Salazar, a Spanish pirate hunter. Some time after the conflict, Sparrow lost possession of the ship, and it eventually became a simple merchant vessel belonging to Lord Cutler Beckett. As a compromise to reclaim the Wench, Sparrow began serving as a captain under Beckett's branch of the East India Trading Company. This was a contentious arrangement, and Sparrow eventually rebelled when asked to transport slaves. In retaliation, Beckett had the Wicked Wench razed, leading a desperate Sparrow to make his fateful bargain with Davy Jones in order to save it. The ship was still visibly blackened from its burning, but Sparrow chose to embrace the change, adorning it with black sails and renaming it the Black Pearl, which he felt was an appropriately fearsome moniker for a pirate ship.



Have seen the pearl pheno posted by members it is a beauty.



Some info found on the website
Mother – La Perla Negra IBL

After a bit of confusion we are happy to finally bring you another wonderful Mexican heirloom ,La Perla Negra. After tracking down the original source and comparing notes with a number of other Mexican growers we are certain this beautiful lady comes from Oaxaca. For anyone who is new to Mexican varieties, the Oaxaca region is known as one of the best for quality genetics.

We must consider also that these genetics may heave already been evloving in the America's for several hundreds of years as well as mixing randomly with other imports in the past 100 years so lots of diversity.
I would think the origins possibly from Indian Hemp, African, and Lebanese as possible sources...
Maybe others...the low ryder strain was supposedly from genetics found in Mexico ? 🤷‍♂️

Tranquilidade hopefully has more to share :huggg:

 

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Tranquilidade

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Mexico boasts a diverse range of plants, including NLDs, WLDs, and hybrids in between. NLDs aren’t a silver bullet. I found many excellent sativa-leaning plants within a 10-14 week range. For me, there’s no need to go to extremes like 24 weeks with a finicky ladies. I will update my progress with La Perla Negra in few weeks.
 

acespicoli

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What is the meaning of 'silver bullet'? Like holy grail or something?



🌴 :rasta:
NLDs aren’t a silver bullet.
Maybe this -
a simple and seemingly magical solution to a complicated problem.

  • Plants don’t read taxonomy books and consequently don’t realize that we expect them to fit into these neat little named boxes we’ve created for them.
-mftasp aka
Miguel de Salas

think it as also quoted in a similar fashion by -Burbank


We do have some fantastic NLD mexican strains coming soon ;)
Best >>> :huggg:
 
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nepalnt21

FRRRRRResh!
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hope you don't mind, since you mention sabina and wasson,

alan rockefeller is one of the current nicest minds in mycology, and here is a photo he took of psilocybe meliercula found in oaxaca

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and one of psilocybe zapotecorum, (of course named after the zapotecs), showing some very strong bluing reaction

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and here you can see p zapotecorum's preferred habitat, they grow right out of the wall in areas with mudslides, assumedly there is wood debris nestled in there
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i would love to visit one day, might have to sell a nut


(all three photos, credit goes to alan rockefeller)
 
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