O.G. kush mystery Solved!!??!

[BushyOldGrower]

I never got those clones to grow because I was away and they died and I never grew the seeds so I swear I never crossed Bogbubble to anything to get sour bubble.

It was just an odd selection I had seen a couple times before in my Bogbubble.

There was a Heads article that theorized that ECSD was a cross of my SB and Sour diesel but I was never told this by REZ so I doubt it.

I really like ECSD though. I think it the best tasting of the diesels.

With the sour bubble it really came out of the same WhiteLabel bubblegum as the Bogbubble. What was the other indica they used? The pack said it was a cross of two indicas. There are several possibilities.

Maybe one of you know. It predated double gum by WhiteLable. Sour Bubble must be a throw back to this other indica. Sour bubble seems a bubbakush to me but not much like bubblegum really. So was the other indica used possibly Kush?

The closest thing I have smoked to sour bubble was a clone called Pure Kush.

Back when I started all I had to work with was NL5 and the WhiteLabel Bubblegum. Bogglegum was the cross of those two. When I made Lifesaver SubCool had sent me his JCB that I crossed to my Bogbubble.

It was after that the sour bubble clone was isolated from the Bogbubble.

The seeds I sent the OG guy at overgrow were Bogbubble and Bogglegum so possibly he used either as pollen but I don't know so don't accuse me of lying. I have told the same story, thhe truth for many years now and it was all done public ally while in process at OG.

 

[SooperSmurph]

The seeds I sent the OG guy at overgrow were Bogbubble and Bogglegum so possibly he used either as pollen but I don't know so don't accuse me of lying. I have told the same story, thhe truth for many years now and it was all done public ally while in process at OG.

Oh i'm well aware of this, I was merely pointing out that the only respectable breeder to try and claim the line was mostly being dismissed, so if BOG's story isn't good enough for them, what is?

Just ordered some more of your beans good sir, I hope you never turn into a yoga instructor

 

[mack 10]

Thanks for answering my questions Bog.
Shame you didn't get to grow those clones. Why not try and germ the seeds he gave you? just for fun.
From what plants you had at the time, the only combination(in my mind)that comes close to giving out OG babies would be
Sub's JCB x WL Bubblegum = strechy, lemony, frosty tight nugs?
but I just can't see it. Now if we was talking about Bubba Kush I could believe The Nl5,Bubba and bogbubble getting mixed up and crossed together resultingin sour bubble.


ECSD/ Sour D came from the Wiesel out of NYC.

~Mack.

 

[MOneYMiKe]

This is gettin weird......

 

[canned abyss1]

I don't know whether or not OG is directly related to Bog genetics, or chem or whatever, but from my observation which is just speculation, they have an ancestral link somewhere. The indica used is probably an afghan kush type (similar to deep chunk, with an abundance of resin and an upward leaf curl.) It is very possible that it could be in bubblegum and only shows up in a small percentage of the population. I think people forget that it wasn't that long ago that there was not an abundance of genetics like there is now, and it is quite likely that many strains share similar ancestry. A lot of the genetics were traded amongst growers that met at places like dead tour, rainbow gatherings, hemp fests etc. these were generally the same people doing this so it stands to reason that there are a lot of similar offerings.

These pics are of bubble chunk, which is bubblegum x deep chunk and it shares some of the characteristics that OG and Bogbubble have, mainly the resin content, leaf structure and lower yield which comes from the afghan/ kush (deep chunk) side of the gene pool, but it also has some funk, with one pheno that I could pass off as OG (if I wanted to) and no one would question it. This is an example of a simple cross that shares traits with these other mentioned strains, that isn't directly related to them. If OG is as old as some claim then it might be its own entity that has similar traits as Bog's strains or chem without coming from them.

 

[stickyicky009]

bog is just confusing people that dont read things through and are gonna rush to buy he's seeds... jajajajaj he's 2 posts away from claiming Chem D jajajajajaja

the truth is out there

The original bubblegum was nice. I believe that it was a Big Bud Skunk X Nl 5 sK cross.....

 

[ograskal]

I've heard it all now!....

 

[cyat]

Bog, I smoked the sour bubble you had at the high times cup in sb... It was nice, but tasted nothing like an og

 

[mack 10]

This is gettin weird......

but fun.

I've heard it all now!....

no i'm sure there's more to come yet...

so far we have OGK and ECSD I wonder whos next?

 

[ograskal]

BOG~ There's no possibility that any of your seeds are remotely responsible for OG Kush...OGK dates back to the mid/late 90's in SoCal...roughly showing up around '96/'97 based on most credible first hand accounts. Reputedly the original OG Kush cut was imported to Southern California from Florida.

This!... OG Kush has been around since 96 in Cali!..... BOG seeds has nothing to do with OG Kush!... Period!.... end of discussion!

 

[med-man]

afgahnis arent indicas. they are afaghanicas. and are by no means short and stocky.

just to clarify the op's mesaage

med-man

 

[MOneYMiKe]

Well to be fair he didn't claim ecsd...just made a wacky statement.....

 

[mack 10]

make it stop, please...
whaaaaa!

 

[SooperSmurph]

Breeders, nothing but trouble

 

[silverhazefiend]

I don't mean to stir shit (nah I'm lying ..I'm mixing that shit lol) but I've read that claim more than one time from ___ that his bubble gum beans from white label ? Correct me if I'm wrong but the seed company white label is fairly new ..og kush is fairly old ..white label wast even thought about when people were smoking og kush ...no offense unless I read ur post wrong ..that timeline is shot lol

Not to mention og kush smells like gas and pinesol ...but that's a whole diffrent topic

But I must admit it's exciting to read tales like that ..I don't kno if it's more funny dissecting the story or just generally trying to comprehend it ..no offense tho (ok maybe a lil) lol

 

[fabvariousk]

I crossed a white label double gum male to my OG xTW lady and got a cross very similar to the boggle gum I grew years ago. It made the resin go insane and really brought out the bubblegum flavor. I have a few vegging now. It makes me wonder if perhaps OG Kush was a part of the early stages of bog bubble and bogglegum. Seeing as how no one in the history of growing has ever gotten anything good out of straight double gum seeds.
This seems to be the thread for crazy musings. So that is mine.

 

[BushyOldGrower]

Do you think I will sell lots of seeds from participating here?

View all specials and you will see four of the six top sellers to be mine! Sour Bubble is number one.

I did not tell truth here to sell seeds. I am curious and I have theories but I really don't know a lot about all the origins.

Never claimed I made OG Kush but I did think a guy who made the first one I had heard of had used my seeds.

Sub cools JCB is in lifesaver and sour lifesaver but not in Sour Bubble.

Which OG Kush was it that won the 2011 HT Med Cup in San Fran? The same event Bogglegum won best indica in. They placed the OG in the hybrid category. It really did taste a lot like sour bubble but wasn't as strong.

Sour Bubble beat a Headband OG and an OG Kush in the 2008 LA Med Cup. Sour Bubble was the hands down winner that time but is has lost a few events too. Didn't place when entered in 2010 by El Caminos entry at the HT Med Cup in San .Fran that year.

My current plan is to use a really good GSC that Yes4prop215 sent to a friend. I plan to use sour bubble pollen on it because I like it. Tastes great and pretty potent if not as strong as sour bubble. Sour Cookies? You may want some but now I am selling dreams of seeds to come and that's probably not what I am here to do.

I tell the truth but perhaps some of my conclusions are way off.

As far as I know I did not create Cookies or Chemo any kind. You know which ones I made and even how. That is just a rumor I doubt about ECSD that I read about in Heads mag.

With so many OG Kushes out there now do you really think I need to make one? Lol...

 

[Cannastyle]

I don`t care for dense strains or overly dense nugs, I have no problem with budrot. RH is rarely higher than 40% ever in the summers/fall and it never rains until November.


Jack Herer - Sensi
NL#5 x Haze - Sensi
Sensi Star - Paradise
DJ Short Collection
C99 and the Brothers Grimm Collections
Neville's Haze - GreenHouse
BubbleGum - WhiteLabel
SweetTooth
Mendo Purple
Cherry Pie
Grand Daddy Purple
Kens GDP
Champagne
White Widow
Deep Chunk
Black Dragon
Sour Diesel
Silver Haze
NYCD
RezDog collection
Heavy Duty Fruity
Landrace Thais
Mullumbimbi madness
Purple Haze
Lambsbread
ect ect ect


Btw, Deep Chunk is tits over OG kush, ANYDAY!

Nothing like a pussy assed low yielding "Kush" pump strain.. The funny thing is they call almost everything Kush now for the sales pitch. It`s not real Kush from the Pakistan / Afghanistan / China Hindu Kush mountains. (highland indicas)

Any idiot who calls a plant which is SE Asian and South American genetics a "Kush" is a fukn idiot and just trying to make MONEY. hahahaha








Besides, every time I grow the GS Cookies and OG Kush clones, I get pissed that i threw away 75% of my yield to a pussy strain.



Sour Diesel from RezDog and BOG's BOGBubble? I remember BOG making a bunch of crosses in the past with his BubbleGum mother. I remember a Dutch Passion "Blue Berry" vs Nirvana "Blue Berry", hahaha.. He was PISSED at the yield of one of those. I agree.. I want Big and Sweet. Kids now days and their Cookies and Kush (which is not a Kush). LOL @ them..

I was in a BayArea Cannaclub a few days ago and a retarded looking mongoloid who dressed as a gang-banger was ordering before me and I remember the horribly retarded voice in front of his weak spine saying, "Cookies, Cookies, Cooo00-Kies", i think he was drooling. So I grabbed a 1/4 of what he was having and as i tasted it, i said, Meh - Whatever. Tasted the same as the clones I tried. In fact, OG Kush and Cookies have invaded the west coast. I noticed some of the dewds bringing in the clones of OG Kush and GS Cookies, they were straight up, tatoo`ed, hispanic gangsters. Hell no.. i`m done.

LMFAO.....Straight up hater right there...

"I remember the horribly retarted voice in front of his weak spine..." Wow....your a fucking prick bro. That is some the worst I have ever heard from cannabis user/enthusiast.....wtf gives you the right to judge the dude in front of you? What if he was handicapped in some sort of way causing his "retarded voice" you dick?

I think you need to stick to your fuckin meth and stop bashing folks that enjoy real fucking weed bro....I would love to see a picture of you so I could dismantle you piece by piece you keyboard commando faggot.....

Takes a real big man to hate on a potentially handicapped person in the dispensary.....

I apologize OP.....great thread....lotsa amusing things going on here....

 

[BushyOldGrower]

It was before WhiteLable double gum and back in around year 1999 they were selling them as bubblegum " a cross of 2 Indicas".

I believe there is a short and stocky afghani kush. The lanky kush I thought was the totally different Hindu type kush that has completely different buds not nearly as tight or as potent.

I suppose some Bogglegum could have gotten into my Bogbubble by accident putting NL5 in the mix but I still think I had seen at least three sour bubble type plants in my Bogbubble and I finally cloned and kept the last one. It took a long time after I had that clone before a sour bubble male was found.

 

[stickyicky009]

I believe ...

I suppose .....

Never claimed ..but I did think a guy ...

I am selling dreams of seeds to come ..

I did not tell truth ...

I never got those clones to grow ..and I never grew the seeds ...