Nutrients and Additives (UK)

[funkymonkey]

Dam FM thats a bargain! If only for the Bcuzz Bloom and COCO stims. They are great. I use as per the bottle.

Aye, over a hundred quid's worth for 25 quid is my kind of bargain!

I was just looking for some root stim after seeing how well Regen-A-Root worked for cheesey. I spotted the Rhizo with no bids on it with 3 days left and bid, then I looked at what else he was selling and he had a ton of different Bcuzz and ATA products listed, I bid 3 quid on a few, expecting to get outbid on most of them and did, but I won the stims for a quid each, so I was over the moon. I missed out on Canna Bio Flores and Vega cos they went for 5-6 quid a bottle, same with the Hydrogarden Dry Flowers Stages 1-4, they went for 4-5 quid a bottle.

I'm gonna do a side-by-side with the Bcuzz Stim+Booster vs the homebrew booster I make from powdered seaweed, powdered fulvic, powdered humic, powdered aminos and molasses. I'll use the same base nute and PK booster with both, see how good this Bcuzz stuff is, I've heard nothing but good reports about it for a few years now.

 

[shafty420]

nice find especially for the rhizotonic

 

[Dr. D]

Truecannabliss uses the Coco booster and the Coco Bloom stim from B'cuzz with excellent results, iv been meaning to try the bloom stim again against the Top Max ( i tested them side by side before but not in coco).
Anyone else use Top Max? Iv noticed that my last couple of bottles smell different, it used to smell very sweet quite a nice smell now its the other way around so they obviously must have changed the ingredients...

 

[funkymonkey]

I always thought Top Max was mostly molasses.

Molasses is the one additive no-one should be without, this is what I sue, 6.50 for 5 litres, so it's incredibly cheap, even compared to buying 350g jars of Molasses in the supermarket.

 

[Dr. D]

I always thought Top Max was mostly molasses.

Not sure whats in tbh, defo not as sweet as it used to be more off an off smell to it now..i wish they wouldnt change things iv been using it for years now...
Its about time i tried something else....

 

[funkymonkey]

I used to rate BioBizz, but they keep changing things, the Fish Mix used to be 5-2-2 and great stuff, it's now 6-2-4 and my plants didn't like it at all. Alg-A-Mic used to be good but now the shelf life is very short and my plants didn't seem to like it as much as powdered seaweed extract or Maxicrop. About 5 years ago they took whatever is in Bioheaven out of the Grow and Bloom nutes and put it in a separate bottle and called it Bioheaven, I think it's enzymes and aminos. After they removed it the Grow and Bloom didn't work as good, yields were smaller, plants smaller, add Bioheaven and things improved, but it's meant the cost of using Biobizz stuff has more than doubled as Bioheaven is expensive.

If you're into organics, give Canna Bio a try, heard lots of good stuff about it.

 

[Dr. D]

Thats interesting, i used Bio Heaven about three years ago all from the little bottles i collected at the hemp expo lol.
The grow came out great, good yield good flavour etc etc, i really should run it again to try it out and do a side by side...So many things i want to test but its go to be done one product at a time to see any difference...going to have to do a bit of shopping....Peace

 

[~Shhh~]

Bcuzz rocks mate, especially the bloom stimulator... sure you could knock up a fair copy with good results as you say most is sugar n seaweed. I read that bloombastic is basically the same their bloom stimulator with PK @ the right dose (not 13/14) and that clay shit.

I use green sensation top activator which is also supposed to be very similar to bloombastic, got a few bottles for pennies and it fookin rawks so bought a few mo'

I have yet to try bloombastic though, I read it's shit hot!

Funky pls pm me when you get that trial started. I done a bud candy vs molasses & panela vs control group and liked the molasses & panela treated ladies far better, yield was slightly larger on bud candy tray though IIRC

I'd be very interested to see the results.

 

[hazeified]

BCuzz definitly rocks, I have always used bloom stim and root stim, exellent value for the dilution rate, and visible resultsH

 

[funkymonkey]

Bcuzz rocks mate, especially the bloom stimulator... sure you could knock up a fair copy with good results as you say most is sugar n seaweed. I read that bloombastic is basically the same their bloom stimulator with PK @ the right dose (not 13/14) and that clay shit.

I liked the results in terms of density, resin and yield that Bloombastic gave me but it also made plants prone to mould and left a taste in the buds. I also read that the bloom stimulator with PK would give the same results, we shall see.

I use green sensation top activator which is also supposed to be very similar to bloombastic, got a few bottles for pennies and it fookin rawks so bought a few mo'

I have yet to try bloombastic though, I read it's shit hot!

Funky pls pm me when you get that trial started. I done a bud candy vs molasses & panela vs control group and liked the molasses & panela treated ladies far better, yield was slightly larger on bud candy tray though IIRC

I'd be very interested to see the results.

Not heard of that stuff, I only use boosters when I see em available really cheap, been using Dutchmaster Max Bloom cos I got a few bottles of it for 4 quid each, still got some left, will use it in my trial vs the Bcuzz probably, the cuttings I'm going to use for the trial are 7 days into flower, will be feeding them the same for another week then starting the trial, I'll start a thread shortly.

 

[theherbalizor]

One thing about the Bcuzz Bloom Stim and PK boosters. I find whether it be 13/14 or 9/18, if used inconjuction with bloom stim of over 1ml / L the plants tend to finish early.

So I never use more than 1ml / L of BCuzz Bloom stim and 1ml / L of Superior Potash.

 

[~Shhh~]

Plagron top activator aka green sensation

 

[funkymonkey]

One thing about the Bcuzz Bloom Stim and PK boosters. I find whether it be 13/14 or 9/18, if used inconjuction with bloom stim of over 1ml / L the plants tend to finish early.

So I never use more than 1ml / L of BCuzz Bloom stim and 1ml / L of Superior Potash.

Thanks for the info Herb, maybe you can swing by my Bcuzz test thread and offer some tips:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=195989

 

[funkymonkey]

Plagron top activator aka green sensation

Sounds similar to Bloombastic, similar ingredients, shame it's also very expensive like Bloombastic.

I know these exotic PK boosters work, but I just can't justify their price with my current level of income. I know I can get good results with a normal PK booster and some molasses, seaweed, humic etc and the improvement just isn't big enough for me to splash out on things like Bloombastic. I am liking the Dutchmaster MAX Bloom I've been using for a while, it's full of humic and fulvic and has phospholipids, the NPK is only 0-2-3 but as I got it for 4 quid a bottle I don't mind using it at high usage rates to make up for the lower PK levels. Basically, I tend to use what I see on special offer at bargain prices, if I ever see any Green Sensation cheap, I'll grab some.

 

[~Shhh~]

I got some green sensation for cheap mate, but @ the RRP most of this shit is a joke tbh I like your approach regarding making up stuff and saves the bother of visiting shops etc. Not that sure on my own ability to knock a good brew up from base additives/ ferts though. I'd have to copy something like you've already figured out or risk screwing shit up

 

[shafty420]

cheap molasses

http://www.robinsons-uk.com/products/ProductDetail.asp?ProductCode=67401&utm_source=google&utm_medium=basefeed

 

[Dr. D]

Report on House & Garden Top Shooter

Report on House & Garden Top Shooter

Basically this is just a pk booster with added iron.
Ive never used a pk booster before except for Vita-link Buddy which i dont rate very highly.
Directions are as follows; 15 mls of Top shooter per 10 litres of nutrient solution used for 3-4 days three weeks prior to harvest.

I used it this last week as directed 1.5 ml per litre of feed from Monday to thursday, friday i started flushing.
This is the second grow i have used it on and didnt really notice any difference the first time but this time iv watched some of the main buds increase in size by 30-50%! I could not believe my eyes i wish id done a small photo diary i am very impressed.
The plants were given it in their fifth week of flowering, unfortunately they have to be chopped in two weeks because i have to give my notice in so they wont get to go their full potential. Il update when i have flushed and dried to see what the burn is like...Peace
Edit; Top Booster not shooter

 

[theherbalizor]

Dr. D, I believe you are actually referring to House and Garden Top Booster. This is the pk13/14 with added Fe.

Top Shooter is the Gel or the Powder and is NOT a PK 13/14.

Can I recommend on your next run you try some Canadian Express Superior Potash. Nice and cheap and is at the correct ratio of PK for indoor cannabis cultivation. (9/18)

 

[Dr. D]

Yes Herb you are right i did mean Booster thanks for pointing that out mate and il look into some superior potash, they sell that stuff at garden centre's right? Im sure ive seen it before..

 

[theherbalizor]

I am sure you can get Sulphate of potash or similar at garden centres...

But I recommend your local hydro store for the Canadian Express Superior Potash, or buy online.

1ml / L from start of flower to week 7. I use from day 14 until I start the Top Shooter.