Not really "SIDE BY SIDE" but this has been like 15 years in the making. the clear pots argument hopefully settled once and for all.

[PoweredByLove]

dunno who i was talking to or arguing with... grab a number and get in line right?
but whoever you are and wherever you are now... here you go.
clear containers dont have any negative impact on root development. all these algae theories you were swirling about suffocated rooots...
literally the only thing that has ever happened in all my years is that the container grows a green/dark colored film on the inside. essentially eventually shielding the roots from light anyway. also...as i've always maintained. most roots are in the mittle with the dirt....the amount of roots hitting the outer wall are NEGLIGIBLE AF.

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this plant was in this setup for damn near a whole year waiting on me to do something with it.
ill be back later to give you the original picture when i put it in that little nursery seedling pot.

View media item 18716799according to the timestamp i put that in there to root sometime in january. and i took it out of the clear container in september. wasn't in the container the entire time...but you get the idea.


the one with the whorled phyllotaxy is my chi town. it doesnt make 3 buds per branch or anything but they pass on a "branchy" trait.

 

[flylowgethigh]

How do you get the leaves to turn white?

 

[rolandomota]

It's a problem outside when it's hot getting direct sun heating the soil it can be a problem with fried roots other than that it aint a problem at all. I use the clear gallon freezer bags as containers often

 

[foomar]

Same with bubble cloners , no difference if clear or black in rooting time or size of roots.
Bit of algae sometimes does not seem to have been a problem.

Orchids are he only plant i grow that benefits from clear pots and a bit of light on the roots.

 

[couchlockd]

I dunno about this post. Roots actually look to go to outside of container.

Thsts the reason behind multiple transplants as plant grows instead of going straight into say 5g oots from root cube.

The up potting creates a much bigger root system.

Also, the light isn't really a myth, Roots don't like direct light

 

[Stone]

Of course it ‘can’ be done.
The question is why?
Maybe here and there when you are out of regular containers.

The smell of all that algae can attach itself to the plant, especially indoor.

But, I guess technically you are right

 

[PoweredByLove]

I dunno about this post. Roots actually look to go to outside of container.

Thsts the reason behind multiple transplants as plant grows instead of going straight into say 5g oots from root cube.

The up potting creates a much bigger root system.

Also, the light isn't really a myth, Roots don't like direct light

I'm not really trying to persuade anyone to switch to clear pots and whatnot. Just presenting some facts and backing it up with evidence vs all the old wives tales I've been inundated with since the first time I posted a picture of a plant growing for weeks already in a recycled orange juice bottle and I was immediately bombarded with messages telling me all about how I'm not actually growing a healthy plant in a clear container and that I'm imagining it. Because. You. Can't. Grow. Plant. In. Clear. Containers. Because. Roots. Don't. Like
Light.

As for why roots grow out the bottom of the pot... because gravity. And they just grow around and around till they have no where to go... or they find a Crack or hole to grow through. Yes up potting does allow roots to stretch their legs. But im of the opinion none of you are actually maximizing those big pots you using. You transplants too often and you don't sit in your final pot long enough for it to get rootbound as they say on TV. I only grow in smaller pots under 5 gallon cuz I don't have space and I like more than 1 strain at a time. Even going from a solo cup to a 2 gallon pot and veg for a month then flower for 90 days. I chop the rootball apart and the roots are at most 70% of the mass. At most. Usually is like under 50%. The bigger roots require large branches to make use. Of. I notice a lot of people prune plant back to 4 branches after spending months vegging. And I'm like what was the point now you got a bunch of extra roots and nothing for them to do.

I forgot my point but roots are looking for food and water in response to what they need up top. If they have enough at a constant rate you can grow big yield with small root mass.

 

[Stone]

I think it’s really important to distinguish the type of media when deciding pot size.
I agree with you many aren’t maximizing the size they use by gradual up potting.

This holds true in any medium IMO, but mostly shows up in soil because of the larger pot sizes.

In coco or rockwool, small mediums with many daily feeds is ideal.
So it’s much harder to run into the problem of not filling out your roots.

Also, filled roots can act as a generative cue that benefits in flowering.

 

[Lester Beans]

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I'm not really trying to persuade anyone to switch to clear pots and whatnot. Just presenting some facts and backing it up with evidence vs all the old wives tales I've been inundated with since the first time I posted a picture of a plant growing for weeks already in a recycled orange juice bottle and I was immediately bombarded with messages telling me all about how I'm not actually growing a healthy plant in a clear container and that I'm imagining it. Because. You. Can't. Grow. Plant. In. Clear. Containers. Because. Roots. Don't. Like
Light.

As for why roots grow out the bottom of the pot... because gravity. And they just grow around and around till they have no where to go... or they find a Crack or hole to grow through. Yes up potting does allow roots to stretch their legs. But im of the opinion none of you are actually maximizing those big pots you using. You transplants too often and you don't sit in your final pot long enough for it to get rootbound as they say on TV. I only grow in smaller pots under 5 gallon cuz I don't have space and I like more than 1 strain at a time. Even going from a solo cup to a 2 gallon pot and veg for a month then flower for 90 days. I chop the rootball apart and the roots are at most 70% of the mass. At most. Usually is like under 50%. The bigger roots require large branches to make use. Of. I notice a lot of people prune plant back to 4 branches after spending months vegging. And I'm like what was the point now you got a bunch of extra roots and nothing for them to do.

I forgot my point but roots are looking for food and water in response to what they need up top. If they have enough at a constant rate you can grow big yield with small root mass.

Every transplant the roots have filled the pot. I don't know why you would say that. Assuming we all have pots of dirt with no roots lol.

 

[PoweredByLove]

Every transplant the roots have filled the pot. I don't know why you would say that. Assuming we all have pots of dirt with no roots lol.

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Um... lol have to ever tried slicing that in half and seeing what the inside looks like. You'll find the roots kinda branch off in a Y shape. Most roots in the V shape part less as you go down.

Almost like the roots go sideways first till they hit the wall... then go down... all while branching off from a main taproot that's going down.


Anyway... yall stay good.

 

[Lester Beans]

Yes I have cut them in half and they are solid roots.

 

[CharlesU Farley]

Um... lol have to ever tried slicing that in half and seeing what the inside looks like. You'll find the roots kinda branch off in a Y shape. Most roots in the V shape part less as you go down.

Almost like the roots go sideways first till they hit the wall... then go down... all while branching off from a main taproot that's going down.


Anyway... yall stay good.

Totally agree with you, when roots wrap around inside a plastic container, usually the soul inside the containernis devoid of roots.

I have yet to see _any_ root system in a plastic container that has a root system like this one in fabric does, unless it's treated with spinright or some other chemical:

 

[Stone]

Totally agree with you, when roots wrap around inside a plastic container, usually the soul inside the containernis devoid of roots.

I have yet to see _any_ root system in a plastic container that has a root system like this one in fabric does, unless it's treated with spinright or some other chemical:

I also find fabric pots create a far better root system.

 

[Holyherb420]

Im a little confused, are you saying thats a successful grow?