Good info thx I will check it out Elmer. Too bad how bad blood is almost always the reason for some great ones being lost.
I am finishing a NL 5 from Peak Seeds. Have done Nirvana NL, Classic NL, . Have some BCSC NL seeds on tap for next grow. They have the best rep afik.
The Classic was good but some confusion if these were the real deal since the seedbank I got them from went to being a ripoff and closed down. The Nirvana was strong but the buzz left a little to be desired for me anyway.
For growing they are supposed to be easy but I have had nute lockout issues last 2 grows so cannot really give any info, and I pre amend the soil so no idea on feeding stuff.
I liked the Classic NL but it was a bit bland compared to the Peak NL. Not too much happening with the Classic high but it was not bad either. Sedative and calm but not much euphoria or stuff like that. Taste was standard I guess. I made a bunch of seeds from them so might try them later.
I had bad luck with the BCSC NL, lots of different phenos and none that were all that great. Had a dense nugged single cola girl that tasted alright but had a bland high. Had a sativa looking one with a better high, quite nice high really, but fluffy buds with skinny leaves. One that never produced any nugs to speak of and little frost. Was like smoking leaves and never matured. I am done with them, though I crossed a Godbud with the sativa pheno and will see if it has anything in the genetics.
I had bad luck with the JOTI Godbud, one lived and it was a male. Done with them too.
I have a few Peak NL going right now and will see what that brings. He had two different batches and this batch is a bit different than my previous from him. 'Work in progress' is how he describes his NL. The Peak NL has a bit more positive vibes to it than the other NL I have tried. Hard to describe.
G`day Mr B
Go to Mr Nice forum and look up a guy named Seattle NL Greg .
He taught the sea of green tech and the bubble hash method to Nevil .
He`s the guy who started the breeding . The #s were different crosses . From the same Affie line . As the Sativa factor got higher so did the # . Affie x Affie was #1 and on up to #9 a Thai cross .
The NL#5 cut was transported to Holland . The other #s were seeds transported to Holland .
NL was developed by and for Vietnam Vets . The Indian had a vet son . But was not part of the NL Crew .
NL Greg went under ground when Green Merchant hit . Nevil desperate for more NL went to the USA and met the Indian . That caused bad blood . And Nevil never got NL seeds from the orig source again .
Helps to explain why Nevil said the USA NL wasn`t as good as what he already had . He couldn`t get access to the NL Crew only an associate .
Nevil got busted and when he got out of prison his 8th generation NL seeds were gone ...
Thanks for sharin
EB .
G`day Mr B
Go to Mr Nice forum and look up a guy named Seattle NL Greg .
He taught the sea of green tech and the bubble hash method to Nevil .
He`s the guy who started the breeding . The #s were different crosses . From the same Affie line . As the Sativa factor got higher so did the # . Affie x Affie was #1 and on up to #9 a Thai cross .
The NL#5 cut was transported to Holland . The other #s were seeds transported to Holland .
NL was developed by and for Vietnam Vets . The Indian had a vet son . But was not part of the NL Crew .
NL Greg went under ground when Green Merchant hit . Nevil desperate for more NL went to the USA and met the Indian . That caused bad blood . And Nevil never got NL seeds from the orig source again .
Helps to explain why Nevil said the USA NL wasn`t as good as what he already had . He couldn`t get access to the NL Crew only an associate .
Nevil got busted and when he got out of prison his 8th generation NL seeds were gone ...
Thanks for sharin
EB .
Hey all
First five pics are SSSC NL (not sure of it's #), cut is still going around my neck of the woods after nearly a quarter century. Dank as dank can get!!!...low odour...I think not, straight up skunky cat piss!!! I love everything about her, fantastic plant! Unmistakable taste and high, still one of my favourites of all time!!!
The last two are a very sativa leaning (foxtails and all) Dr. Atomic NL5...no comparison whatsoever, low odour, very bland smoke.
Peace
BM
G`day BM10
The Dr Atomic gear looks like its got some haze in it .
Old NL didn`t foxtail like the Atomic stuff .
SSSC sold Basic 5 ?
And a SK x Basic 5 ?
Thanks for sharin
EB .
MustaThanks a lot for that information and feedback, especially since I've thought the Dr Atomic NL was a pretty nice source for decent NL!
Shame that SSSC NL is gone and out of reach for most growers/breeders.
Vibes.
Originally Posted by NL Seattle Greg View Post
Aloha,
The base plants for the entire Seattle Northern Lights strains 1 to 10 was a batch of seed sent from Afghanistan that ended up in Herbie's employers hands who just happened to be an old friend from High School so I was able to get four seeds. Then I started doing seed crops of the pure Indica and crossing it with other strains from Nepal, Mexico, and Columbia.
I had clones and seed and NL#5 was Hawaiian x Steve Murphy's Afghani Strain that is what I sent to Nevil. Steve Murphy owned The Indoor Sun Shoppe in Seattle. NL #5 was a F1 hybrid in 1982.
Northern lights # 1 was Nevils Afghani crossed with the Seattle Afghan strain form Steve Murphy.
I have been breeding since 1970 and he got NL from me. I sent seed to Ben and Kees at Sensi too for giving me the nutrient formula for Grodan and Seattle water.
The 11 strains were graded by height and flavor for indoor growing. The #1 was a short phenotype pure Indica from Afghanistan as was #2,3, & 4. #5 to #11 were the Hybrids with the narrow leaved strains we worked with.
The 11 packets of seed Nevil received were graded the #1 ,2, 3, were 100% indica, #5 the clone I traded Herbie Nelson for was 50% Afghani & 50% Hawaiian sativa. The others #6-#11 were crosses with Columbian, Thai, and Mexican Sativas. Nevil then sold out to Ben, became partners with Arjan, and then hooked up with the Mr. Nice Crew.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....ativa&page=624
I should know better than to get involved in a thread like this, but... to get the _true_ genetics of NL, which won all the awards, your only option is Sensi. They are the _only_ ones guaranteed to have the _genetics_ that Nevil worked.If I wanted to get as close to the NL that Neville selected and put on the market, which breeder would that be today. I went with the one by sensi (and that's the only one I know) but its likely that sensi lost their original cuts in the last 20 years.
Is that genetic so far spread that it does not matter?
Most of the old dutch companies could have some close enough version of the NL that it does not really matter. Any thoughts one which one is the closest one today?