NorCali Daddy's Girl (F3)

[Rock.Steady]

finally, the largest one, in the back.

Today, I smell a distinct difference, this and the other tall one in front are definately a spicier sweet smell, and may be going skunkier.
the short, midl one is DEFINATELY SWEETER BY FAR.


Whiskey, is the skunkier one the 10T?

the front one has a much looser looking, chain-link style budding. sweet-skunky.

the middle one is tight n compact. ultra sweet-smelling

the back one is medium density, sweet-skunky

WT-
your thoughts???

Rock.

 

[Rock.Steady]

another update to the veg/clone/seedling chamber.

I may have to move n flip the male-mom soon, pre-pods are everywhere. and this chamber vents into the flower room.

 

[whiskeytango420]

the ID10t keepers I look for are definitely skunkier, almost offensive smelling skunk/grapefruit. also very lanky and stretchy than normal NCDG. but thats ok....we lOVE her, better or worse, lol. If you got ID in that pack, which is perfectly possible, its only one gen back from when I named it...and still had good uniformity then. GOOD SHIT!

Forgive my memory Rock, but what batch is your dad form?

good vibes


lookin very happy they are!:friends:


edit: the ID10t branches out BIG TIME when you flip em too...so that will be another hint. but skunky, lanky and offensive smell are keys to ID10t. Much more Killer Queen dominant.
Short n much sweeter is NCDG imho.

 

[Rock.Steady]

ok, good input, thanks, together we can sort this right here

I asked once and you told me my batch was F3.
The male is same batch.F3
the male clones are fresh, 2 look very strong, 2 are questionable.
the male-mom has prepods everywhere.
I really have no idea of thie pheno type, but, he is strong and a fast grower, and the one the fates has blessed me with and i believe in karma.

the female clones are from these females(16 days ago), and 4 took very well and are ready to spring. they exit the dome this week.

my observations referencing your descriptions-

front one, taller with long spacing between branches and nugz, spicy

middle one compact in form and bud structure, much sweeter.

back one, taller with much more branching and nice bud structure. spicy.
from your description, this one could be 1 gen pre-ID10T.
this one is cloned for sure.

i look at it this way.
we have at least 2 waves of breeding possible with these M+F plants and M+F clones.
plus, if i harvest the male pollen, like i am hoping, i should have more chances later.

how many seeds did you usually get from a seed plant?

 

[Phillthy]

great info WT and great work rock

 

[Peat]

Well said, Phillthy!

You rock, rock.!

 

[whiskeytango420]

Thanks guys! And again Rock...you dont know what it means that you are helping me. Without your help, the last 3 years I have been working on NCDG/ID10t would have been lost.
Depends on the size of plant you are seeding...First gen of isolation I did, I used a purpling INSANE ID10t pheno that I flowered in the LED closet, the boom boom room....sure you remember that place Rock....lmao
Anyhoo...that lil plant STILL gave me over 200 viable seeds, finishing at 20in tall....
Gald your male is my F3 stock...had MANY IDs in that bunch, and many of the NCDG...great gen for getting both phenos. I got a dad of my F4s...the actual ID10ts...so either way, with what you are doing, and then bx back to my dad...Id10t will live on!!!!!!!!!!!

good vibes and thanks again!

 

[Peat]

how many seeds did you usually get from a seed plant?

"usually" depends...
But, you "can" get "a whole fucking bunch"!

1000s. Probably 10s of 1000s. On one 3'-4' female.
These estimates are based on my own "controlled pollination" fuck ups.

For personal use, I prefer to produce only a few seeds.
But, I sometimes have trouble "staying between the lines".
And, pollen can be very potent...

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I once knew a fella that accidently inhaled a couple of pollen grains.
He claimed that he didn't stop "passing" seeds for a week!

 

[Rock.Steady]

Thanks guys! And again Rock...you dont know what it means that you are helping me. Without your help, the last 3 years I have been working on NCDG/ID10t would have been lost.
Depends on the size of plant you are seeding...First gen of isolation I did, I used a purpling INSANE ID10t pheno that I flowered in the LED closet, the boom boom room....sure you remember that place Rock....lmao
Anyhoo...that lil plant STILL gave me over 200 viable seeds, finishing at 20in tall....
Gald your male is my F3 stock...had MANY IDs in that bunch, and many of the NCDG...great gen for getting both phenos. I got a dad of my F4s...the actual ID10ts...so either way, with what you are doing, and then bx back to my dad...Id10t will live on!!!!!!!!!!!

good vibes and thanks again!

Whiskey-
ok, just went and gave another good look n smell to our 3 girls.
the shorter one is definately far sweeter and more grapefruity than either of the other 2 or even the 2 i grew last round.
I believe you are dead on about the quantity of the stinky pheno, now that i really smell the difference side by side. amazing and remarkable lessons in botany here for me. highly informative and FUN
It appears now, that my last 2 NCDG plants were the pre-gen ID10T

ok, that being said, lets recap.
-all these NCDG beans, clones and plants are F3.
-the pre-gen-ID10T is dominant and the majority, so far.
-there are 4 strong female clones, rooted ready to veg.
-the male-fatherplant is LOADED with prepods right now.
-of the 4 male clones, i believe 2 will thrive.

what is the expected timetable once i turn the father plant to pollen production?

I have an idea, but you might think its crazy.

follow me on this.
the flower room is 4x4.
what if i were to put the ready-to-go-male in one corner and surround him with the current females?
True, I will likely pollinate all the other plants too, but, maybe thats not a terrible thing.
maybe i take him out of there after 1 day.

here's why.
I think the male will pop inside of a week. I've had him in a slow cycle for 2 months and he wants to pop.
if i surround him tightly with the girls i want bred, they will surely get dusted.
i may get some other buds also, but, like I said, maybe not a horrible thing.
current residents in the room are-
3 NCDG(F3)
1 WhiteWidow
2 ArjansStrawberryHaze

and 2 whiteberrypowerplant which are leaving in a week.


again, I could always remove him after a day or 2 of open dusting

the reasoning here is this.
if we wait for all the clones to all grow, we're looking at 2-3 months probably to harvest. But, if i do this lil sacrifice, I know for sure a strong pre-gen ID10T gets dusted. and the schedule turns into 6-8 weeks.

with that month-worth saved, you could potentially have a pure ID10T seedcrop by new years.

here's part 2 of that idea. if the first attempt is a failure, i still have all the clones for a second chance.


I really need your input here. tough decision to make alone.

what do you think? Whiskey? Gang?

Rock.

 

[whiskeytango420]

you want to let the girls be at about 2 weeks bloom beofre introducing the male. That gives em time to have plenty of calyxes for seedmaking/pollen catching.

Everything else sounds DAMN good to me!!! Im just glad now that people can see I made an almost new strain outta those genes. If they were even 50/50 like IRs...I would NEVER have re-named and marketed ID10t. Striving towards a Killer Queen dom was my original goal.
ID10t and KillerChem would make a hella cross huh?

good vibes and AMAZING work Rock!:friends:

 

[Rock.Steady]

whiskey-
yes sir, when side by side like this, its evident there are 2 phenos here.
i even brought a friend as observer and he agreed, sweet/grapefruit and a skunky/fruity, 2 distinct scents.
the skunky one makes ur nose wrinkle a lil, but u like it

these girls are at 5 weeks, about to enter 6th.
budsites n hairs are EVERYWHERE.


how long do you think the male would need in 12/12 to do his dirty deeds?
prepods are EVERYWHERE.

 

[Rock.Steady]

ok, the current girls, starting week 6 tomorow.
they didnt flower for a week, so, you can subtract a week for estimates.

Hey Whiskey, here's pix of the stinky pheno. look familiar?:friends:

like i said, loose chainlink style bud structure up front, more woven on back one.

close-upz

 

[Rock.Steady]

here is the sweeter smelling shorter one.
much tighter structure in all aspects.

 

[whiskeytango420]

Rock...there are in a large batch 2-3 plants that are very Id10t, and LOW yield, but EXEPTIONAL headies....kinda like a subcools Tinybomb. Like in your first post...there will be one that is still grapefuity/skunky/offensive (ID10t) and a much better yielder, but that last pic in the first post looks like it may be the one I only got 13-16g off of, but barely chared it, lol. Not the norm Id10t...as of now, I may be wrong. We shall see!
This is fun....:friends:

good vibes

 

[xcrispi]

Lookin good Rock ,
Hello to W/T , Peat , etc.... also .
The N.C.D.G is 1 of my faves man . I'm working on a cpl. dif. projects involving her .
Actually got to spend the day w/ that guy last sunday before he heads back to his mountain . Really really good ppl man .
I've not come across a pineapple scent yet ? Some kinda smell like juicyfruit gum to me though .
Keep up the good work
Crispi

 

[Rock.Steady]

YO Crispi!
Good to see you again!
Yeah, she's a real 'keeper'
I just hope this works.
stay tuned.

 

[Rock.Steady]

more pix from last grow of this strain.

these were around 7 or 8 weeks or so.

enjoy, I am

 

[Rock.Steady]

more budporn from last grow with these wonderful genetics.

some closeups, wk 8 or 9.
btw- they were harvested end of wk9

tasty lil eye candy, enjoy

 

[LolaGal]

mine smell like grapefruit too. neat!

 

[Rock.Steady]

fresh pics

fresh pics

first a look at the Male.

yeah, i'd say he's just about ready.

anyone have a link to a successful pollen collection with pics?