Nomaad's Outdoor Adventure 2009 v1.2

[nomaad]

Thanks, yort. That's high praise. I'm not letting it go to my head though. Every day I am reminded that anything can happen.

This rust problem, while not affecting my full season plants, scares the pants off of me. I got 4 box fans for $100 bucks and I'm trying to figure out the best configuration. The rust can be found mostly on lower leaves and certain genetics. I guess I will focus on those areas. It kind of sucks that This isn't really ventilation, but rather simple circulation.

 

[yortbogey]

not a prob....U deserve..it big plants take big time.....
hope the fans help w/ some airflow......

 

[antimatter]

your average cali med grower is stoked on 1lbers.

I would say that there are even still a lot of commercial growers who grow 1-2lbers in smaller holes or pots. I have found a lot of people stuck in their first successful grow paradigm. They are like... OK...I do X, Y and Z and i get this much yield. I can do my math with those numbers and know what I get at the end of the year. Once they have seen some success, the don't strive to constatly take it up notch after notch. I see it both indoors and outdoors.

These guys are busting their asses and breaking the laws (big time, even in cali) to get the same yield out of 99 plants (these same people also think that 99 outdoor plants is legal) that We are hoping to get out of 18.

you're right, man... it's all about rootspace. I may not know much about growing (except what I have learned over the past 2 months) but I know that much.

Unfortunately I gotta bust my ass for 1600 a lb less if it were in bulk and its not even guaranteed to sell because of there being so much around here. Would rather run indoor.. less stress but $$$ for a nice setup. Still alot better then a regular 9-5 job

 

[nomaad]

So I set up some fans and reiterated the Subculture B foliar application. For good measure, i did the same inoculation on my full summer girls.

Ghetto. If it works, I'll do something with the electrohazards.

Let's look at a quick comparison of the full summer Bubba Kush from the day I began this thread to this evening.

I'm pretty happy with the progress in 5 days. She is really filling out.

Yes, I realize that the perspective is a bit off and the plant on the right is not THAT much bigger. The bamboo stakes give you some vectors to judge the growth.

 

[nomaad]

I didn't mean to post that yet, so I guess its going up in installments.

Here's some early budporn. I guess this is day 17 of 12/12 under the tarps.

Bubba Kush. A little dark, sorry.

Same Bubba- top view.

Not really sure which plant this is of. But its purdy.

The Blue Mystery

The Mystery is a plant that came to me labeled "Maui." I am pretty sure I have mentioned it before. It isn't either Wowie or Pinky, so I refuse to call it Maui. Also, I (and several people who have closely examined the plant) believe that it has DJ Short genetics in it. A Flo or BB cross for sure. I've got a lot of it in my garden... the full summers are total monsters that got abusively trained by the Badvibes Sherpa and now they are kinda obscene looking... they Really wanted to be x-mas trees... they started growing branches perpendicular to the now-bent over main stem- straight into the ground. I am working on training them back skyward and center so I can rehabilitate that growth that was reaching for the ground.

Anyway, until we know more about her (which we prolly never will) she will be known as the Blue Mystery.

OK... alien interloper of the day was this guy:

Just looking at it now, I notice a wider oval around the egg sack, or whatever it was. I tried to remove it in such a manner as to inspect it, but it just boogafied as soon as i touched it.

Anybody know what this is? Not really a major issue since I found only one in the search that followed the discovery of this guy.

 

[nomaad]

One last thing before I puff one last 5$ joint of shake salad and bliss out for the night; A couple of days ago I noticed some tip burn on EVERY leaf on one plant and the same thing to a lesser degree on another plant of the same strain- i call her Skunk-Ra. This is the worse-off plant:

Here is where I get stumped. It is either a defficiency OR a burn. So either the strain is more sensitive than the others OR it needs more than them to do its job. The plants are in the light dep side of the garden. I've been feeding them with the moon. That is, a full dose on the new moon, working our way down to a third strength on the full moon. My ppm is never over 1100. Gah.

This is the part I hate. If I had the rust on the run for sure, I'd be into solving this next headfuck, but I'm still waiting to see if the Subculture B and fans are working. Oh... the second application of subculture was slightly different from the first in that the adjustment of ph from 6.7 to 6.5 was done BEFORE the SubCulture was added to the mixture. I did this because it was explained to me that an out of whack pH will kill your bennies in the bucket. One thing I have to work on is my sequencing when it comes to nute mixing.

I will shut up now. Good night.

 

[nomaad]

OK. I think the rust has stopped spreading. its difficult to tell because I don't want to remove any more partially affected leaves. Tonight I am going to take some photos and compare them with morning photos from tomorrow.

The glorious event of this morning is that the Blueberry- which I am going to call from here on in "ClueBerry" Cuz i have no clue what it actually is- has started to smell like berries and differentiated itself from the "Skunk" plants, to whom it resembled so much, we were not sure whether we had 2 Clueberries and 2 Skunks or 3 Skunks and one Clueberry. Now I am 90% sure its 2/2 which is a huge relief cuz the Clueberry is a serious producer and the bud quality is a step and a half above the Skunk. At this point the Clueberries have about twice the bud production of the Skunks and the smell is absolutely divine, while the Skunks have no unique smell of their own... just that uniform early flowering smell.

Gonna go buy fencing today and start to put up cages on all my pots.

 

[ROOTWISE]

Nice work Nomaad, you're loggin some serious hours out there. Great to see the garden doing so well...

 

[nomaad]

Thanks -wise. I do about 2 hours in the morning before it gets hot and ten go from about 5pm till dark. Its a labor of love. Since this is pretty much my crash course education in growing ganja I'm making the most in there. In 6 weeks we're going to start taking down the lite dep and by that time the outdoor ladies will be huge and way more time-consuming to be as close to as I like to be.

I bought the 60" fencing to make cages out of, but it makes me really sad to put my ladies in jail like that. How am I going to get deep inside the canopy if I need to... or just want to see how the main stem is doing? A friend of mine offered to buy me the texas tomato cages when she buys hers. I might take her up on it.

 

[THC123]

Lookin good there nomaad, that "thing" seems like a slug or a cocoon of some sorts.

The little burnt points are a slight nute burn imo

I am too lazy to cover my plants for early flowering

 

[nomaad]

The little burnt points are a slight nute burn imo

i think so too.

 

[headimonster]

you know about the reveg out door plants yeilding more, i have to second that for sure....a few years we had a headband clone that was budding, revegged and flowered again, and i was doubtin it the entire time and we yielded twice the amount of the reveg than the one that was fine.....and i was thinkin, it almost brings everythin in closer and than stretches it back out....IF you have enough time.....got a 8 ft. sweet and sour diesel bx that was flowering cuz of rootbound and transplanted her into the 200gals and she looks way node'ier than the SnSDBX that were'nt flowering.....

 

[THC123]

yeah i had a few frsisians wloer slightly and then reveg and they are full of branches compared to the non revegged one

 

[nomaad]

Picking dozens of flowers off some of the plants did not hurt the reveg process... lots of topping.

It does stand to reason that if a plant goes into flower its going to start growing super-fast, the roots system gets huge. Once its back in veg its working with the flower-huge root system. While the shock of the whole process probably stunted growth for a while, once the shock was over, growth has been insane.

 

[try comb]

Picking dozens of flowers off some of the plants did not hurt the reveg process... lots of topping.

It does stand to reason that if a plant goes into flower its going to start growing super-fast, the roots system gets huge. Once its back in veg its working with the flower-huge root system. While the shock of the whole process probably stunted growth for a while, once the shock was over, growth has been insane.

im noticing this also.......i enjoy your thread. ill be watchin the whole way through........peace

 

[nomaad]

Thanks, comb.

Today's update. No more rust. Gonna incorporate a weekly subculture b foliar application.

 

[nomaad]

So... Strange happenings. One of my full season plants, the Razzberry, is flowering...again. Now I REALLY hope that revegging makes monster plants. While I am hearing you guys say that this is so, others, whose opinions I value, do not agree.

Rather than pick off the flowers this time, I am going to hit her with a serious dose of N and maybe put a light on her all night long.

I am doing a major feed tonight anyway... I will probably just hit her with a simultaneous foliar... Weed Santa suggested to me that its possible that its an autoflower variety. That's a whole other thing to wrap my head around. Anyhow... I am going to give'er a bunch of N and put a light on her at night and see what happens. I have 2 4xt5s that I'll put on either side of her in a vertical arrangement.

 

[fisher15]

Damn dude, that's super weird...so it has been in the 200 vegging for awhile now? I had a couple (both indicas) that were planted in may, took right off vegging, then began to flower. I had so many ideas, not sure what it was, but any chance the plant is getting less direct sunlight now than a month ago? I've only really heard of sativas doing the reveg>>blow the fuk up thing...maybe more stretch?

Seems if it's not an autoflower, you're doing all you can to keep her in veg. Good luck

 

[nomaad]

yeah.

 

[Smoke Kush]

yeah.

Nice Shot. Good thread, a lot of good reading. Keep up the good work.

Smoke