No Big Bang? Quantum equation predicts universe has no beginning

[Mad Lab]

Oh, I get it, you chose the simple list which isn't really science based, but ignored the lengthy list which indicates that the greatest scientists in the recent and present world are atheists. And my mind must be closed because I don't believe in biblical witchcraft and superstition. And, I must be a troll because I dismiss the rantings of biblical nitwits who lived when the world was flat.
Regurgitating drivel manufactured by the ignorant is not my idea of thinking outside the box. But if it gives you comfort, good for you. I find it stultifying.
Maybe you might want to study the second list, and notice all the Nobel prize winners, and pioneering men who discovered the foundation of our modern sciences. You also neglected to point out in your list that some of these people were persecuted by the church for their discoveries,ie, Galileo, and others. Again, science trumps superstition, but I understand your frustration in trying to defend the indefensible. You just can't do it. Does that make you a troll? No. Just in denial, as most who quote the bible as the source of their "evidence". "Well, so and so (insert mythical being of your choice) said this or that, thousands of years ago, so it must be true". "And I have it on good authority that their remarks were quoted, translated, and passed down through the millennia without error, or misinterpretation". After all, it's the "word" of "god".
As Einstein said, "human weaknesses", and "primitive legends". Not trolling, just countering witchcraft and superstition with logic and rationale. I understand that this offends some. Too bad. Their problem. When god appears and, after performing miracles and proving "himself", then I will listen to what "he" has to say. In regards to believing in superstition? Not gonna happen. Believing in nonsense does not make a person better. Just more suggestible.

its funny how awesome this thread starts to get going until this guy posts...

 

[Weird]

Oh, I get it, you chose the simple list which isn't really science based, but ignored the lengthy list which indicates that the greatest scientists in the recent and present world are atheists. And my mind must be closed because I don't believe in biblical witchcraft and superstition. And, I must be a troll because I dismiss the rantings of biblical nitwits who lived when the world was flat.
Regurgitating drivel manufactured by the ignorant is not my idea of thinking outside the box. But if it gives you comfort, good for you. I find it stultifying.
Maybe you might want to study the second list, and notice all the Nobel prize winners, and pioneering men who discovered the foundation of our modern sciences. You also neglected to point out in your list that some of these people were persecuted by the church for their discoveries,ie, Galileo, and others. Again, science trumps superstition, but I understand your frustration in trying to defend the indefensible. You just can't do it. Does that make you a troll? No. Just in denial, as most who quote the bible as the source of their "evidence". "Well, so and so (insert mythical being of your choice) said this or that, thousands of years ago, so it must be true". "And I have it on good authority that their remarks were quoted, translated, and passed down through the millennia without error, or misinterpretation". After all, it's the "word" of "god".
As Einstein said, "human weaknesses", and "primitive legends". Not trolling, just countering witchcraft and superstition with logic and rationale. I understand that this offends some. Too bad. Their problem. When god appears and, after performing miracles and proving "himself", then I will listen to what "he" has to say. In regards to believing in superstition? Not gonna happen. Believing in nonsense does not make a person better. Just more suggestible.

Shame you cant apply scientific method to your comprehension

I dind't post the 1000's of religious scientists that changed the worlds, I just noted that 90% of nobel prize winners were agnostic or gnostic, not atheist

second, the number of catholic scientists in the list I provided rivals the number of atheist scientist and Catholics only represent a portion of Christianity and relgions on total

thirdly, if religion makes people think badly then how do
Jews who comprise less than 0.2% of the world's population[3] (or 1 in every 500 people) posses 22% of nobel prizes?

your view of how people think based on belief is completely irrational

 

[mojave green]

got pictures?

Okey dokey then

 

[genedigger]

oh wow motherhood looks like fun

 

[VenturaHwy]

Bottom line people may believe in Christianity or what ever truth is it will really be short lived watch this video there is no denying the fact

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kKkY5EpVpY

Either the truth or close to it. It is called the science of demographics or Demography.

 

[D. B. Doober]

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South Park Proved Right About Scientology XENU Story: http://youtu.be/T7EEOMbBIO8

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[armedoldhippy]

Okey dokey then
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those are some fine looking "muffins", I'm sure!

 

[waveguide]

those muffins look pretty fresh out the oven, might be hotter than you'd actually want.

 

[Weird]

i almost posted a youtube of two elephants copulating, was the biggest bang I found recorded

here is something else that is cute


Scientists' Belief in God Varies Starkly by Discipline


http://www.livescience.com/379-scientists-belief-god-varies-starkly-discipline.html

scientists biased by their own practices?

:: gives wry green eyed look

If you read this article you will find something very, very interesting. The basis for my arguements in regards to the bias of our own being.

Even scientists are biased by their focus yet they do not recognize it.

Now some might conclude things based on ratios, but I suggest looking at something different.

Look how WHAT they study and WHAT they believe in.

Those who study humanity believe that a like entity was involved in our being here, in variations agnostic to gnostic.

Those who study the things that are not human, like astrophysics, do not.

I think to rule out the universe as being capable of working as neural network has yet to be ruled out

Biological life as we know it does not have to exist in biologic vessels, the transformation from man to machine in underway and we have replicated crude life forms and at the exponential rate of technology will see the process completed within a lifetime or two, AI, sentience and virtual immortality in forms other than our own

our understanding of life make be semantic because if the universe is not biological but still is proven to be an entity unto itself regardless if its form of mass and energy are foreign to us.

Could that be the alien life around us that we have yet to identify?

If it happened on a small scale here why would it not happen elsewhere?

I only say this because there very well be a underlying treatise that describes our reality as this

We all see the same reality for different limited angles and only in the totality of them all do we see reality for its totality, that the co existence of both order and chaos confined and confuses us. The inability to modulate both understandings in a balanced manner leaves us conflicted.

This is why I say the universe is driven by fractal algorithms because they are the mathematical equation that illustrates those two forces in unison and what they create and how they contribute to life.

This leaves both atheist and gnostic relatively right, agnostics undecided and spunions like me sure its an element of both, but I digress its in the math.

But it doesn't really matter, it is just interesting how what we believe directs our efforts and energies in regards to the humanity around us and it goes to illustrate the paradigm our own successful focus can create when we do something in this world.

People think I am talking hippy shit when I say what you do is a reflection of your personality which is a reflection of mindset and belief.

Profiling works because of the nature of the human condition

Here is a ted talk on altruism given by a buddhist monk

He worked for a Ph.D. degree in molecular genetics at the Pasteur Institute under French Nobel Laureate François Jacob. After completing his doctoral thesis in 1972, Ricard decided to forsake his scientific career and concentrate on the practice of Tibetan Buddhism.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p_GKCr8rq8

here is an interesting take on the humanity from a man with both a scientific mind and humanistic focus

 

[resinryder]

Arguing with someone on a pot board about whatever they choose to believe is, well, just special

Better Weird?

 

[Weird]

Interesting to see how you perceive the participants of the special Olympics, losers because of a genetic disposition not winners based on their achievements none the less

Hitler thought the mentally challenged should euthanized because of their difference from the norm. He saw loss of value in difference and value in homogeneity.

This is not how evolution works, it is our nature to become more diverse and more complex, so in the end Hitler's mantra was defective and self defeating and thus why his regime collapsed upon itself.

interestingly enough the lack of belief from others doesn't keep them from reaching their full potential. I am inspired by the special Olympics and the participants

Funny when it comes to being good humans many of the "special" people haven't built a belief system that negates the value of their own shared humanity

 

[resinryder]

No I don't perceive them as losers at all. I see them as athletes that go largely unnoticed and mostly forgotten and underfunded. Special olympics here struggle for money on a regular basis but take a look at the main special olympic web site and see how much they have in cash and assets will make one wonder why local special olympic orgs struggle. Strange. If that's the way you took it, and I see where it can be taken as insensitive, I'll edit the post out. Wasn't the point I was making.
I find anyone, especially those that "preach" tolerance to the rest of us can be intolerant to anyone with a different set of beliefs. If I believe aliens seeded the earth would that be a sticking point?

 

[waveguide]

navajo someone once said to me, "white people talk too much so you can't think"

it can mean a couple of different things.

 

[SPG.]

the big bang was an inside job!

. Yup,Spot on!

(an' tomorrow there will be New Sh*t Talked about..) STILL.Cute we are!)


(Canna board Makin' ,me hungry for Ganja )

 

[Vash]

have you ever tried to doubt instinct?

Meaning...???

 

[Siever]

It's what Buddhism already is saying for 2500 years. No beginning, no end. I once ate mushrooms and at sometime that was what was going true my head.

Siever

 

[ChristianGrower]

Face it guys

Face it guys

There is a God, 1 God, who created everything that is. Our world does have a beginning, and it will have an end! And if you believe the Bible, you gotta believe that end is very soon. We just passed the super central date of this Perfect holy TETRAD we are in the midst of... An up coming solar eclipse between these 4 blood moons? That's the sign... In The other 7 holy tetrads since Christ, never has a solar eclipse occurred... It's the beginning of the 7 year end...

 

[resinryder]

We need a smiley that stirs a pot with a boat paddle.
ChristianGrower you'll be meeting RetroGrow and the rest of the "A" team shortly.

 

[mr.brunch]

You are having a laugh, right cg ?

 

[Midwest sticky]

We need a smiley that stirs a pot with a boat paddle.
ChristianGrower you'll be meeting RetroGrow and the rest of the "A" team shortly.

Here ya go