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No Big Bang? Quantum equation predicts universe has no beginning
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Whenever I hear the term Big Bang these days,I think of Kim Kardasion.
(or Honey Boo Boos Mom..but mainly I just think about her...wallowing in the mud.)
(or Honey Boo Boos Mom..but mainly I just think about her...wallowing in the mud.)
unk1
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It's really just atheist scientists trying to give a rebuttal argument against theist's or deist's claim to requiring an agent outside of our natural realm to set things in place, the big bang theory etc.
When making the decision to decide between choosing to accept God or not, I love Pascal's Wager theory. What is the wiser choice for mankind when no proof for either will likely ever have the required elements to test by scientific standards?
I would argue that theists have no argument at all....just a superstitious belief system.
I think you mean choosing to believe in superstition, not science. I like Carl Sagan's take:
"I don't want to believe, I want to know."
Anyone can believe in whatever fantasy they choose, but it takes scientists working together over the centuries, passing down knowledge so it can be expanded upon, and along the way debunking the myths of the pious, while slowly unlocking the secrets that surround us. We know a lot more know then we did back then, when religions were created, and we will continue to learn more at an exponential rate. Only by passing knowledge down can man evolve in his understanding, otherwise we'd still be in the middle ages, going on a Crusade.
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You cant disprove God. Only a fool would discount it. You know what they say about the man who knows it all...
Having an open mind is smart and truly intelligent scientists know that just because they cant measure certain elements of life, doesnt mean they dont exist.
And you can say 'religions' and group them, another foolish thing, but the truth is by definition one thing, so if one religion is true, none of the rest are. Which means grouping isnt correct.
Nothing about the Bible has truly been debunked. If so, show me with a link, no talking. If you provide one please show me a scientific proof of somesort. We can debate issues, but noone will really win. Only fools think the Bible is a scientific book. It was composed during times where science couldnt have been comprehended by the masses like it can now. The Bible is a spiritual book.
Atheist-Agnostics are smarter. They acknowledge the fact NOONE will prove there was no agent who set the laws we live by in place, so lets have a scientific attitude towards what cant be proven with science.
** Also he said I dont want to believe, I want to know.
Well guess what... you will NEVER know God doesnt exist... so now what?
Also, I like to think what I will pass down to my children. If I teach them to be a good person and atheist, they are more likely to disregard being a good person for the fact there is no authority behind the values. Im just a man, a shitty man, as we all are, even if we try to do well. People need the authority stamp on their value system... or it will break over time. Or be more likely to break.
Midwest sticky
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I still think we're mites in a giants grow room.
unk1
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time is what keeps everything from happening all at once...if there is no beginning & no end? enjoy the ride...
when I was young, that was the span of time between the start of the school year, and the end... or until Christmas, LOL! now, it is waiting until I can retire.
So without the theory of relativity and the big bang that means basically nothing is limiting space right? Relativity tied space to time and ultimately curved space to account for time? So with this new theory there is no end to anything?
I prefer to have space curve, makes it easier to deal with mentally. Also the expansion from a singularity and the ultimate return to it by classical geodesics is comforting to me.
I prefer to have space curve, makes it easier to deal with mentally. Also the expansion from a singularity and the ultimate return to it by classical geodesics is comforting to me.
The western world and its concept of the cosmos has been jaded for eons untold by psuedo religions and science itself. Their is no true authority when it comes to the art itself even though mainstream media and academics will shout otherwise..
If you have studied any area of science on your own or in school, you may have noticed or have come across the fact that there are many differing beliefs in the scientific world. While this statement seems impossible given that science is supposed to be based on evidence which produces theory, it is a delusion not to realize that much of what is strictly believed in the scientific world is only believed due to the common acceptance that is put into mainstream ideas — much like what takes place within religion. That is not to say that there aren't amazing scientists out there coming up with profound findings and adding powerful contributions to all fields, it’s to bring light to the fact that in a mainstream sense one could say science is “stuck” or more accurately put, we have put a freeze on certain areas of science and finally we are beginning to see it unfreeze as the mass awakens to the illusion seen all too often in our infant world of science.
If you have studied any area of science on your own or in school, you may have noticed or have come across the fact that there are many differing beliefs in the scientific world. While this statement seems impossible given that science is supposed to be based on evidence which produces theory, it is a delusion not to realize that much of what is strictly believed in the scientific world is only believed due to the common acceptance that is put into mainstream ideas — much like what takes place within religion. That is not to say that there aren't amazing scientists out there coming up with profound findings and adding powerful contributions to all fields, it’s to bring light to the fact that in a mainstream sense one could say science is “stuck” or more accurately put, we have put a freeze on certain areas of science and finally we are beginning to see it unfreeze as the mass awakens to the illusion seen all too often in our infant world of science.
unk1
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ya, time is relative. it's like an epic adventure book... it's just pieces of paper with some ink on it until you start reading it. then it's wizards and knights and magic and whatever else. time doesn't mean a damn thing until you pay attention to it. how many times have you looked at the time and been like "holy shit, it's (insert time here) already!" or even "holy shit, it's 2015 already?!" when you pay attention to it, it goes so slowwwwwww, sometimes even going backwards right? I dunno... too much blue dream today, haha
time is a man-made construct of perception.
things ran like a well-oiled machine before mankind existed and will again when we depart.
the radiation from what we think was the bigbang is nothing but charged particles from stars accelerated by angular momentum.
the whole thing is electric.
solar dynamos spinning through Birkeland currents producing impossible amounts of light...
things ran like a well-oiled machine before mankind existed and will again when we depart.
the radiation from what we think was the bigbang is nothing but charged particles from stars accelerated by angular momentum.
the whole thing is electric.
solar dynamos spinning through Birkeland currents producing impossible amounts of light...
unk1
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to elaborate on my book reference.... time is kinda like a bookmark. reflect on what you read, or go read a chapter from a different book.
Midwest sticky
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Are there pictures in this book?^^^
wait until you get up one morning, look in the mirror & say to yourself "damn! when did my hair turn white?" (actually, mine started turning when I was 14, so not as traumatic to me, LOL!)
but, you know? i'll start paying attention & see if I can slow it down some...
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