bill cooper
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No Big Bang? Quantum equation predicts universe has no beginning
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no, he's thick in it.
he's the wheel-weight that keeps balanced this circle turning.
he's the wheel-weight that keeps balanced this circle turning.
Try considering that they fly around and land on your hand or thing you're focused on a lot more often then you realize and it's only because you're focusing on an area that you finally happen to notice what goes on a lot more then you realized when your focus was elsewhere.
see? hempkat's interested in not acknowledging this 
it must be some statistical aberration!.
this is what is wrong with people today. they will produce any excuse they can to deny that others may be aware of things they are not. "there is NO WAY a *housefly* could be aware that a human is focused on creating something.. it's too complex for their fly brain.."
the idea that a fly might have their shit that together is like an affront... naah man, a fly has got to be stupid, becuase flies don't have drivers licenses. they like all the wrong music, like barber shop n shit, you never see flies with like awesome norwegian black metal cd collections because flies just suck.
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congratulations, you're more perceptive than you think houseflies are!
it must be some statistical aberration!.this is what is wrong with people today. they will produce any excuse they can to deny that others may be aware of things they are not. "there is NO WAY a *housefly* could be aware that a human is focused on creating something.. it's too complex for their fly brain.."
the idea that a fly might have their shit that together is like an affront... naah man, a fly has got to be stupid, becuase flies don't have drivers licenses. they like all the wrong music, like barber shop n shit, you never see flies with like awesome norwegian black metal cd collections because flies just suck.
serrrrrrrrrrriously
congratulations, you're more perceptive than you think houseflies are!
see? hempkat's interested in not acknowledging this
this is what is wrong with people today. they will produce any excuse they can to deny that others may be aware of things they are not. "there is NO WAY a *housefly* could be aware that a human is focused on creating something.. it's too complex for their fly brain.."
the idea that a fly might have their shit that together is like an affront... naah man, a fly has got to be stupid, becuase flies don't have drivers licenses. they like all the wrong music, like barber shop n shit, you never see flies with like awesome norwegian black metal cd collections because flies just suck.
serrrrrrrrrrriously
congratulations, you're more perceptive than you think houseflies are!
Well actually I was addressing how much information the human brain ignores when it's not focused but hey it being too much for tiny fly brains sounds good to me too.
https://archive.org/details/PsychedeliaRawArchivesOfTerenceMckennaTalks
#4 - 02 - Timewave Zero 6, McKenna
#4 - 02 - Timewave Zero 6, McKenna
What was once used in Sci-Fi movies that we thought was Wow is not being used by all of us today cell phones ,, is it not odd in reality??? that in the last 20 years we have u jumped tri -fold in tech then in any other century ...
One could only think that most of these advancements,,we been helped by a out side source other then humans ....
I surely think so even with advancements in all other fields.
When the first wheel was invented 3500 BC but yet they sorta used a wheel earlier for pottery so why did it take 300 plus years to figure out that wheel could be used for transportation ?? 300 years folks
although we have evolved to use our brain probably more
but still look how in all seriousness how things really has slowed down oh sure they make smaller phones with more memory ,, but technology has slowed down compared to 15 years ago
etc ..
There are many things we are not told and some possibly better that we do not know ,,
but i swear in the past year with life flying by seems when we were young could't wait to turn 16 to drive then turn 18 to hit the bar
before you know it your 50 wtf where did my life go lol everything is in a hurry race to work race home etc
This past year i started looking more into the sky's at night and late mornings ,, and with out a doubt you can see planets which is fucking cool i mean really Jupiter not that far away if you can see it with our eyes Venus same thing specially this time of year ..
Anyways i see satellites, then i see other things which to me is a UFO where it moves rather fast in different directions.
To me this is not a jet or a sat.. Cause you can see it litterally go up n disappear who knows sometimes i think they know if there spotted by anyone a sense ???? but with out a doubt i think there will be a break thru soon meaning we all will know that there is aliens visiting earth
GanjaBredMan
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This thread is very interesting, the universe is so weird and mysterious. Did you guys hear about warp drive being possible? It's been proven, it's called EMdrive.
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noyd666
Mad Lab
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LOL, Doc, glad to see this thread is still going strong.
You sound a little too much like Bill Mahr.
Setting aside religion for a moment, you think Iran should be able to have nuclear arms, and we should let them be.
But very similar to how the human race is responsible for the preservation of the earth because we happened to be the lifeforms that evolved to the point of self awareness and freewill, also the ability to execute that freewill, I believe that because the human condition is flawed or imperfect, there must be those humans that keep the balance in check.
Hitler, Stalin, if left to be they might have violated much more free-agency.
Iraq, Iran etc. Did the USA do it for self-gain? possibly. Likely? absolutely, but when innocent peaceful people are being exterminated by the thousands, I think that although the USA motive is not noble, but i believe good comes out of it.
When my good friends come back from their tours, they admit that they are there for the wrong reasons, but because they are there, they are saving many innocent lives, and that they believe is a good thing(not just their fellow soldiers. You can say that the foreign policy is flawed and it is causing more problems in turn causing more killing, but you don't have any more evidence for that case.
USA is nether "good" or "evil". They are both. But they are the also the only country that can or will do something about genocide. Yes, we could have helped many african countries that have the same issues, but as we cn both agree, USA is not perfect or "good".
Leave Iran alone? Based on there theology and the fact they live by that theology that promotes violence if justifiable, not sure if that is a great idea.
When the Nazis were in the World court and on trial, their case was "we just followed the law of the country, we did what we were supposed to."
The response from the court was this: " There are natural (universal)laws that are higher than the laws of man, of which you violated and must be punished"
So regardless of your view on good vs evil, subjective vs objective morality, its somewhat universal that we all believe in the preservation of free-agency. Which ultimately means there is a universal truth of some sort, but that can only be acknowledged with the acceptance of this moral law having a moral law giver, i.e. god.
And about the elite, something very interesting is that the elite have access to knowledge and history we will never have. The vatican and freemasonry museums are likely filled with the answers we seek on many subjects.
But the majority of the elite are likely not secular. They are not atheist. They have very strong spiritual beliefs, whether its astrotheology, mysticism/gnosis/etc.
They have the most knowledge, riches and power. They also have the most time to seek knowledge. Yet they do believe that there is a god, whether they oppose it or embrace it.
But we are so smart in our secular world today (of which they promote and encourage) thinking we know everything because science is more advanced. Why do you think that is? Do you think your more intelligent or your catching something they arnt?
Mad Lab
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Most secular people believe in karma, or an energy of some sort that punishes the person that commits perhaps "universal" moral laws.
Sounds very similar to god.
Its amazing to me people can believe in one thing that cannot see or prove at this moment with observational science, yet they cannot give the same consideration to a higher power.
But rarely have I met an atheist who doesn't believe bad things will happen to you if you commit bad acts.
Although speaking about "bad" or "good" acts with an atheist is difficult because it is supposed to be purely subjective and therefore those words shouldn't be used. "good" or "bad" based on the social structure of the community we are currently discussing is possibly more accurate, but it gets silly.
Genghis Kush
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I'm not so sure Karma has anything do with punishment.
"Karma" means Action.
It is based on the laws of "cause and effect".
One's karma is ones actions.
Good and Bad is a personal judgment and not universal.
Everything comes from a source but God is not a being.
Anthropomorphic Gods are illiusons.
"Karma" means Action.
It is based on the laws of "cause and effect".
One's karma is ones actions.
Good and Bad is a personal judgment and not universal.
Everything comes from a source but God is not a being.
Anthropomorphic Gods are illiusons.
Genghis Kush
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Anthropomorphic Gods are an Illusion.
while "cause and effect" is provable.
Religions where invented to tie people together.
God is the friend "we" share in common.
People are bonded by common friends.
But the spirit world is provable as well.
DMT is an immediate access to that realm.
Yet according to the Buddha all realms are Illusions.
while "cause and effect" is provable.
Religions where invented to tie people together.
God is the friend "we" share in common.
People are bonded by common friends.
But the spirit world is provable as well.
DMT is an immediate access to that realm.
Yet according to the Buddha all realms are Illusions.
Its not about nuclear arms its about upgrading there power grid ask your self should a country like USA hold another country from bettering them selfs ???
Ask your self why USA hasn't stopped India , china , Russia or most importantly North Korea from having Nukes, if that is the case
When you really break it down who the fuck gave USA any say into what another country can or cannot do ..
Ask your self ,, how you would feel if another country dictated what you can or cannot do and that country is on the other side of the earth... There are good people every where and bad people ...
in france 80 percent nuclear power is used for energy
i think in the states its around 30 percent take that 30 percent away what would happen ????
Should we let them be Med lab ??? lets see here who really fucked up the middle east and have things in place in infuence ???
The fact that the United States has a long and torrid history of backing terrorist groups will surprise only those who watch the news and ignore history.
During the 1970’s the CIA used the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt as a barrier, both to thwart Soviet expansion and prevent the spread of Marxist ideology among the Arab masses. The United States also openly supported Sarekat Islam against Sukarno in Indonesia, and supported the Jamaat-e-Islami terror group against Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto in Pakistan. Last but certainly not least, there is Al Qaeda.
Lest we forget, the CIA gave birth to Osama Bin Laden and breastfed his organization during the 1980’s. Former British Foreign Secretary, Robin Cook, told the House of Commons that Al Qaeda was unquestionably a product of Western intelligence agencies. Mr. Cook explained that Al Qaeda, which literally means an abbreviation of “the database” in Arabic, was originally the computer database of the thousands of Islamist extremists, who were trained by the CIA and funded by the Saudis, in order to defeat the Russians in Afghanistan.
America’s relationship with Al Qaeda has always been a love-hate affair. Depending on whether a particular Al Qaeda terrorist group in a given region furthers American interests or not, the U.S. State Department either funds or aggressively targets that terrorist group. Even as American foreign policy makers claim to oppose Muslim extremism, they knowingly foment it as a weapon of foreign policy.
The Islamic State is its latest weapon that, much like Al Qaeda, is certainly backfiring. ISIS recently rose to international prominence after its thugs began beheading American journalists. Now the terrorist group controls an area the size of the United Kingdom.
In order to understand why the Islamic State has grown and flourished so quickly, one has to take a look at the organization’s American-backed roots. The 2003 American invasion and occupation of Iraq created the pre-conditions for radical Sunni groups, like ISIS, to take root. America, rather unwisely, destroyed Saddam Hussein’s secular state machinery and replaced it with a predominantly Shiite administration. The U.S. occupation caused vast unemployment in Sunni areas, by rejecting socialism and closing down factories in the naive hope that the magical hand of the free market would create jobs. Under the new U.S.-backed Shiite regime, working class Sunni’s lost hundreds of thousands of jobs. Unlike the white Afrikaners in South Africa, who were allowed to keep their wealth after regime change, upper class Sunni’s were systematically dispossessed of their assets and lost their political influence. Rather than promoting religious integration and unity, American policy in Iraq exacerbated sectarian divisions and created a fertile breading ground for Sunni discontent, from which Al Qaeda in Iraq took root.
The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) used to have a different name: Al Qaeda in Iraq. After 2010 the group rebranded and refocused its efforts on Syria.
There are essentially three wars being waged in Syria: one between the government and the rebels, another between Iran and Saudi Arabia, and yet another between America and Russia
Who is Saudi's Allie the good ole USA
The fact that the United States has a long and torrid history of backing terrorist groups will surprise only those who watch the news and ignore history.
During the 1970’s the CIA used the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt as a barrier, both to thwart Soviet expansion and prevent the spread of Marxist ideology among the Arab masses. The United States also openly supported Sarekat Islam against Sukarno in Indonesia, and supported the Jamaat-e-Islami terror group against Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto in Pakistan. Last but certainly not least, there is Al Qaeda.
Lest we forget, the CIA gave birth to Osama Bin Laden and breastfed his organization during the 1980’s. Former British Foreign Secretary, Robin Cook, told the House of Commons that Al Qaeda was unquestionably a product of Western intelligence agencies. Mr. Cook explained that Al Qaeda, which literally means an abbreviation of “the database” in Arabic, was originally the computer database of the thousands of Islamist extremists, who were trained by the CIA and funded by the Saudis, in order to defeat the Russians in Afghanistan.
America’s relationship with Al Qaeda has always been a love-hate affair. Depending on whether a particular Al Qaeda terrorist group in a given region furthers American interests or not, the U.S. State Department either funds or aggressively targets that terrorist group. Even as American foreign policy makers claim to oppose Muslim extremism, they knowingly foment it as a weapon of foreign policy.
The Islamic State is its latest weapon that, much like Al Qaeda, is certainly backfiring. ISIS recently rose to international prominence after its thugs began beheading American journalists. Now the terrorist group controls an area the size of the United Kingdom.
In order to understand why the Islamic State has grown and flourished so quickly, one has to take a look at the organization’s American-backed roots. The 2003 American invasion and occupation of Iraq created the pre-conditions for radical Sunni groups, like ISIS, to take root. America, rather unwisely, destroyed Saddam Hussein’s secular state machinery and replaced it with a predominantly Shiite administration. The U.S. occupation caused vast unemployment in Sunni areas, by rejecting socialism and closing down factories in the naive hope that the magical hand of the free market would create jobs. Under the new U.S.-backed Shiite regime, working class Sunni’s lost hundreds of thousands of jobs. Unlike the white Afrikaners in South Africa, who were allowed to keep their wealth after regime change, upper class Sunni’s were systematically dispossessed of their assets and lost their political influence. Rather than promoting religious integration and unity, American policy in Iraq exacerbated sectarian divisions and created a fertile breading ground for Sunni discontent, from which Al Qaeda in Iraq took root.
The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) used to have a different name: Al Qaeda in Iraq. After 2010 the group rebranded and refocused its efforts on Syria.
There are essentially three wars being waged in Syria: one between the government and the rebels, another between Iran and Saudi Arabia, and yet another between America and Russia
Who is Saudi's Allie the good ole USA
Mad Lab
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Oh sorry, I didn't realize that the decision was one made by the soley USA, of which your accusations lie.
I was under the impression that China, Russia, United Kingdoms, Germany, US, France and the European Union were the countries involved with the comprehensive agreement on the iranian nuclear program.
And if that is the case then should the UN have a say which country now receives the capability? Its called regulation, at a global level. We all hate regulation here in the US, especially our industry, but its necessary.
But i must have been misinformed, I thought it was UN not solely USA.
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