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No Big Bang? Quantum equation predicts universe has no beginning

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waveguide

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..but i appreciate your effort to make a human statement, with no linked webpages, and of a terse length demonstrating an authentic desire to communicate...
 

trichrider

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:laughing:well then that's on you.

:peacock:

besides, who does this matter to? you seem to feel it an affront to 'your' intelligence, while at the same time denying it matters.

why the fear? who could possibly be hurt or offended by discussing and observing our environment?

you took the brown acid didn't you?
 

waveguide

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repeating lies in places where they may be overheard,

intentionally doing this,

detriment to society.



total obfuscation of any rigorous process of knowledge (that's what epistemology is, motherfuckers!) in favour of instant adoptation of anything labeled "scientific!"


navajo said to me once, "white people never stop talking so you can think"

and that is something that i wish every westerner who loves entertainment would nurture some appreciation for......

so? keep an eye on the people who never stop talking..

it's called "perception management", and sure, society gives you license to do it, but society also gives me license to call your shit on it.
 

waveguide

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"in case anyone didn't notice,"

all of the requirements for life and happiness, stoner, are provided by nature. i like to say, the only valid application for science is art. i say this to differentiate the postulation from it's current state of being an authority.

"primitive man" went into the earth to focus on the magnetic emanations from cygnus. there is no correlation between "science" and achievement. (merit, anything, except maybe bullshit).

of course, who is not to say that all technological achievements are not art?

all the people bombed by assholes to preserve their culture with television sets may be the latest installation at gallery earth. "come and look!" art! "how great thou art"

..not to trivialise any of the sufferings our culture is inflicting on people around the world at this moment.



it's jsut like, you know, a problem when people want to talk about observation and achievement as if it means anything. what that means is authoritatively.

the reason it bugs me is because, if you're saying it, you're saying it because it's still effective, and if it's still an effective form of influence, then it ought to be countered. (by clarity, a fundamental appreciation of epistemology, as buddhism jainism taoism et al).



what are the problems with science? (apart from everybody dying because of cultural manipulation/authority)


science cannot acknowledge a non-recurring universe. it needs the universe to do the same thing in the same condition. like a dog jumping through a hoop.

this is what you say to the universe - "i want you to be a trained dog. you can never do anything only once. i need to be able to observe it, then make it happen again!" haha what a bitch!

and what's more!!!! hahaha

get this - science also says to the universe... it wants peer review!!!!!! hahahahahha

it says "it can't be true unless me and all my *****rs say it's true!!!!!" hahahahahahahaha


this is so absurd man. no wonder epistemological solipsism is the oldest professed outlook throughout history. "you can only know your own shit bro" and maybe you'll be so kind as to try that shit and find out how it's so good instead of being a tavistock "in-formation" minion.
 

Weird

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I guess for all your intellect you are failing to see that the Illuminati agenda overlaps with futurism because they are trying to use predictive foresight to control a society they see as evolving in a specific direction.

That is the totality of the agenda, to facilitate and yes in some scenarios cash in and or control the process for personal gain.

Once again the fractal nature of things, such as the similarities between dissimilar parties with like influences yet differing agendas seems to confound you into thinking they are somehow intrinsically designed in a plot against you.
 

Weird

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"in case anyone didn't notice,"

all of the requirements for life and happiness, stoner, are provided by nature. i like to say, the only valid application for science is art. i say this to differentiate the postulation from it's current state of being an authority.

"primitive man" went into the earth to focus on the magnetic emanations from cygnus. there is no correlation between "science" and achievement. (merit, anything, except maybe bullshit).

of course, who is not to say that all technological achievements are not art?

all the people bombed by assholes to preserve their culture with television sets may be the latest installation at gallery earth. "come and look!" art! "how great thou art"

..not to trivialise any of the sufferings our culture is inflicting on people around the world at this moment.



it's jsut like, you know, a problem when people want to talk about observation and achievement as if it means anything. what that means is authoritatively.

the reason it bugs me is because, if you're saying it, you're saying it because it's still effective, and if it's still an effective form of influence, then it ought to be countered. (by clarity, a fundamental appreciation of epistemology, as buddhism jainism taoism et al).



what are the problems with science? (apart from everybody dying because of cultural manipulation/authority)


science cannot acknowledge a non-recurring universe. it needs the universe to do the same thing in the same condition. like a dog jumping through a hoop.

this is what you say to the universe - "i want you to be a trained dog. you can never do anything only once. i need to be able to observe it, then make it happen again!" haha what a bitch!

and what's more!!!! hahaha

get this - science also says to the universe... it wants peer review!!!!!! hahahahahha

it says "it can't be true unless me and all my *****rs say it's true!!!!!" hahahahahahahaha


this is so absurd man. no wonder epistemological solipsism is the oldest professed outlook throughout history. "you can only know your own shit bro" and maybe you'll be so kind as to try that shit and find out how it's so good instead of being a tavistock "in-formation" minion.


So build a computer from rocks and pebbles and program it with wind and sun, until then stop pretending you don't rely on the same science you admonish or make a living from the very same technology that has empowered the Illuminati both individually and and the governments they influence as we evolve to a police state

How does it feel to help build the markets you claim aren't necessary to "know it all" and also help empower the Illuminati that fuel your paranoid disdain? Hypocritical?
 

trichrider

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^^^
so your vibrations are only ones of import.

how nice that. be sure to let that Navajo know how well you've used his wisdom.

try not involving oneself if one is offended.

Changing Woman
Changing Woman comes closest to being the personification of the earth and of the natural order of the universe as to any other brief way of describing her. She represents the cyclical path of the seasons, birth (spring), maturing (summer), growing old (fall) and dying (winter), only to be reborn again in the spring.

The birth of Changing Woman was planned by First Man and First Woman. First Man repeatedly held up his medicine bundle toward Gobernador Knob at dawn. Somehow from this action Changing Woman [Asdz nádleehé] was born and found lying on top of Gobernador Knob. She was found by Talking God who was sent to investigate. First Man then presented her to the diyinii, saying that you could see that this is the child of the young man and young woman of exceeding beauty who themselves had arisen from the same medicine bundle to become the inner form of the earth.{*}

changing woman represents cycles of change and rebirth. chasing the ouroboros, not unlike aspects of physics approaching religion in their similarity and using relative descriptions as references.

it seems science strives to explain what indigenous cultures have mythologized into religions...but that 'we' assume through scientific rigamarole we may come to understand the powers of the universe.

turn down the reverb...it's creating a standing wave.

how odd your quotation by Navajo...Talking God must have been white man. :comfort:
 

mr.brunch

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I love the way people slag off science and belittle its achievements.

If I had a bad injury it would likely be scientific achievements that would save my life.

Maybe just a little respect is due?
 

Weird

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it is the common psychological fear of the unknown.

at some point science itself became its own entity and as a collective grew larger than the average human can fathom, so it, like religion becomes the scapegoat for a person's fears.

the world seems so big and complex and I feel just so small and insignificant, and project my fear onto people who seem to control the world through the command of something I don't full understand such as religion, science, academia, etc.
 

RetroGrow

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if you let this thread run forever, trichrider and weird will fill it up with current article

So you would prefer censorship?
I hold free speech in the highest regard. If I don't want to read a poster's "rantings", I just skip it, but I would not presume to stifle them....with the possible exception of genedigger...:biggrin:
Seriously, don't like? Don't look. No one's forcing you to read it.
 
science controls people with fear the same way religion does.look how many wingnuts go out and get vaccines and flu shots or they worry about climate change.the list goes on and on.science is the new opiate for the masses.
 

mr.brunch

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Nothing to do with fear man... You get your kids vaccinated to protect their health, and to prevent the further spread of those diseases.
No one is trying to control people with fear by vaccinating them....

As for climate change... It is happening, has happened in the past and will again long after we are gone. Trouble is, most humans think we are so important that it must be us causing it.
Not so sure myself
 

waveguide

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check out these boys with their supply of "lamo stock tavistock retorts"...

"you used roman roads to bring your complaint against rome, so it is invalid" - i've never met a jewish person who didn't use this as their first counter, and it really is insulting to have someone present you with this level of "rhetoric".

and trichrider.. interpreting buddhism and jainism as selfish because he thinks it will detract from my rhetoric... swifty eh.... but referencing indigenous culture sure comes off earthy eh?

and retro also trying to make me out as a fascist by grossly inept inability to see beyond his intent to detract... sigh..

this is why you guys post on the internet, because if you gave these lame ass aaaarghuments in real life, no one is going to stay there and listen to your shit.


"kill it with fire!" kindergarten shit.
 
it has everything to do with fear.vaccines arrived at the same time in history as proper sanitation clean water practices but science would have you believe they saved the day with vaccines. climate change has happened many times before so why are we worried about it.you clearly are not reading between the lines.
 

RetroGrow

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this is why you guys post on the internet, because if you gave these lame ass aaaarghuments in real life, no one is going to stay there and listen to your shit.

And yet, you keep reading it. Too funny!
Maybe ICMag should appoint you as chief censor.
Yes, that's it. You should be the arbiter of people's opinions. You would have done well in the Spanish Inquisition, or Hitler's Germany.
 

RetroGrow

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Wasn't talking about your lack of English/communication skills. Was talking about the stupidity of your statement.
 
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