Nikola Tesla & Free Energy technology ..discovered around 100 years ago

[NiteTiger]

I don't think you're trying to be an asshole (not yet at least ), I just don't see very much potential in hydrogen fuel cells. Certainly not enough to warrant killing someone and burning his lab down.

If it were some other sort of tech, maybe...

Maybe that's part of our confusion. I wasn't saying that fuel cell tech was worth it, I just used that as an example of a situation that can be viewed in a pretty sinister way.

I didn't mean to make a statement about the feasibility of fuel cells or their place in the energy market, my bad.

That doesn't mean that it happens every time, or that it happened that time. Don't fool yourself tough, someone who can do what you're postulating doesn't come cheap, most cheap contract killers will shoot you and take your wallet.

Of course it doesn't happen every time, I never suggested it did. But do I think it could happen? Definitely. Do I think it has happened before in the realm of 'big business'? No doubt about it.

Also, don't fool yourself into believing the Hollywood mythos of a super assassin. Finding someone capable of pulling a trigger is not expensive. "Oh, such a shame about Joe getting killed in that mugging."

It really doesn't take any special skills, just the ability to curl your finger.

Just a little bit of Occam's razor, don't attribute to malice what can be explained by many other more simple reasons..

I'm not talking malice, I'm talking business. The flip side of Occam's Razor is to not take things at face value, always look deeper. Just because a guy gets mugged doesn't mean that he wasn't mugged for another reason.

You're, I think, attributing levels of organization and malice to entities who aren't that organized (or malicious, though what they do might be seen as that..)

Once again, I'm not talking malice. I'm not saying these corporations are evil. But when you weigh billions against a life, very few times does the life prevail.

As far as organization, you're just being nonsensical. Companies with 24/365 coordinated operations running all over the world, including in some of the most remote regions on this planet, don't have organization?

Give me a break man, that doesn't even make sense.

The private space programs aren't billion dollar ops, there are prizes, it's more or less yacht racing for billionaires who don't like boats..

You need to research farther than the X-prize man. Private launch companies make billions a year, and are developing further.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics_of_new_nuclear_power_plants

All the existing nuke plants were built by monopolies (government approved ones, obviously), or state owned power companies..

Yes, government approved, not government owned.

Maybe if he wanted one to power the microsoft campus..

So you do admit that a nuclear plant can be built without government funds.

None of them could have been built without government intervention..

What do you mean by intervention? Regulation and incentives don't make the companies government owned.

I've seen it happen, the tech doesn't disappear, people don't forget about what they've seen, or invested in..

Of course people don't forget what they've seen, but if they can't talk about it, it doesn't really matter what they remember seeing. And with all the research, notes, and prototypes gone, they couldn't feasibly reproduce it anyway. Especially with the corp guarding it's new patents and tech like we discussed earlier.

As far as investors, why would investors give two shits? They got bought out at a profit, so they got what they were there to get.

I've seen it happen too, and it was like the tech had never existed.

 

[GoatCheese]

Here is a link to a page about a free energy idea i saw in my alumni mag (Technology Review) several years ago ... (link still works) ... Hyper Energy Theory:
http://rvarspace.tripod.com/



i don't understand it (haven't studied it yet - i didn't do that well in physics at the 'Tute -- actually computers were far more interesting to me at the time (1966-1970)

Also there is no mention of the Hamel Spinner in this thread. That concept really peaks my interest.

Here's a link: http://www.world-famous.com/DavidHamel.html

..all these new terms for "Ether energy" hyper-energy ..what's wrong calling it Ether-energy, cause it has been done since or even before Tesla ..now it's "hyperEnergy" or what ever ...could be agenuine invention or a working theory, i'm not saying that, but seems abit scam-ish to me, you know..

some of these "Here's a new way, by a this book" are streight up Propaganda (literally, science propaganda) to through "free thinkers" and Free Energy inventors astray, know what i mean..




Go with John Bedini ..he bases his invention on Tesla's discoveries ...and does not try to claim it to be his or anything "hyper-"..

On youtube you can find many living room-inventors building these Bedini motors etc. .. many people all over the world building these little generators... so,there is loads of people on the www. to talk about this..



John Bedini apparently has even writen a book on which some people really seem to be building these Ether-energy machines. So ,maybe that's a book to go with..

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=bedini+motor&search_type=&aq=f


JOHN BEDINI'S COLLECTION OF FREE ENERGY MACHINES



http://www.icehouse.net/john1/john1.html

http://www.icehouse.net/john1/tesla.html



http://johnbedini.net/


IS THERE A REACTING AETHER? Here is the Proof: It powers the BEDINI Machine!

http://aetherscience.net/www-energyscience-org-uk/2000/es2001.html​

..go through the material i have linked on this thread from the first post on ...i'm sure you'll be better off, than by following these "new cats" who claim THEY discovered/invented it.

Descartes, in his time allready spoke of "Full Universe" ..this is the same as Tesla's Ether-universe ..all filled up, to the top; with substance(particles) and EM-radiation ...there is NO EMPTY SPACE anywhere to be found in this Cosmos!!

​

 

[GoatCheese]

hey.


This is what the world might look like around these "tower-power plant areas" with Tesla's Wardenglyffe towers in operation ..recieving AND transmiting electrical energy/power. ...through the "ather"

But we allways got HAARP don't we ..totally different type of device, isn't it?

the first pic is from the HAARP site..

http://johnbedini.net/john34/Radiant1.htm


http://johnbedini.net/

 

[GoatCheese]

bumb-idy-bumb..

 

[turbolaser4528]

awesome stuff, been into this a while also.


The Bedini motor is the way to go, self sustaining energy production after you start it. Can output more than 10x what you put in (yes this defy's the "laws" of physics, deal with it)

Pretty cheap to make, you just need good magnets, copper coils, a small dc motor, a capacitor, and uh....shit, anyone?



Id love to see someone put a bendini together and run some grow lights with it.. everyone will just keep calling bs otherwise lol this is the unfortunate truth..



Lastly, Stan Meyer's method of high efficiency electrolysis deserves much more attention. Just before his death he designed a water injection vehicle, creating the HHO gas inside the combustion chamber!!! Also, he used a Pulse Width Modulator, and adjustable frequencies to drastically increase the energy output/input ratio. No one seems to mention that, its all conservation of energy, cant do this, cant do that, blah blah, blah!!! guy is considered by many as the greatest inventor of the 20th century next to Nicola Tesla. Genius, shame the guy was poisoned.


Lets gets some links of real life practical applications and results in here guys, dont let this thread die, it may be the most important topic in the whole forum!! Imagine using/generating as much electricity as you want, off the grid, cleanly, renewably.

The Golden Age is here, I assure you


peace n love

 

[immaculate]

There's no "Golden Age" coming. The fact is, the majority of people are so dependent on the system as it is that they will never be able to give it up completely and start afresh - excuse me for being so negative, but how many people actually want to work for what they get (I don't mean your 9 to 5)? You're all stoners: how many of your lazy fucking friends were too useless to fucking go out every May, germinate some seeds, grow a little stash? Most of them I bet. They'd rather pay the thousands of dollars to buy their weed. Who wants to walk through the woods carrying gallons of water in the middle of July heat? Not most people. On some level, it's not humanities fault: we've been fucked by the goals and ambitions and personal interests of an elite class, and we've been taught that the only way to fit in is to spend life trying to achieve that same status - much like the bullshit religions teach.


The sad thing is, people will be retards, no matter what. How hard is it to conceptualize the simple fact that the VERY FEW PEOPLE benefiting from the corporate landscape, who control the prison system, who control the educational system, who control the political system, who control the economic system will do whatever it takes (still playing by the rules of their system) to stifle any competition that could lead to their dissolution...

Yeah, OF COURSE Exxon-Mobile is going to fund technology that would render their monopoly powerless. I'm sure that the few people living a carefree life (I can't imagine how liberating it would feel knowing I had a multimillion dollar bank account and could live however I wanted - take a random flight to Jamaica or Amsterdam, then go to one of my many houses....) would gladly give up their material paradise for the betterment of you and me...have you guys not seen Russo's interview with Alex Jones?

If you're so naive to think that the elite class doesn't look down on the rest of us as pathetic pawns, you're mistaken. Nick Rockefeller admitted "the grand plan."

There's technology to split atoms, but there's not the power to spread lies to bunch of drones? Pfff... Most people are retards. It stuns me how retarded my peers are. Honestly, some of the most retarded individuals float right on through the university/college setting effortlessly. It's a joke. Shit, people are the easiest animals to control...the war is in your heads people...read Bernays, you tardnuggets. Everything you fucking THINK has been SPOONFED to you...you "de-bunkers..." you'll be the first to go and you'll get it the worst..trust me...along with those of the upper-middle class...just didn't make the cut, eh? Then you'll be between a rock and a hard place...don't come lookin' to post up on my farm's porch when you're left high and dry by your so-called benevolent government.

Once you've all decided you're ready to start the revolution let me know.

 

[indifferent]

Google the 'Pogue Carburetor' it's an example of how an invention which much apparent promise can turn out to be a total crock.

Tesla however, well, something very sinister and strange lurks behind the truth of what happened there.

When Tesla died, all of his personal papers, notes, possessions, laboratory, the whole shebang, was seized by the govt and disappeared, never to be seen since.

What was he working on? People have speculated that it was radar or a death beam, well, sorry, neither is true as on Dec 7th 1941 the best radar the US had wasn't able to tell the difference between a swarm of 200 small Japanese carrier aircraft and a flight of a few huge B-17s incoming from Burbank, CA. The US didn't get effective radar until the Brits gave them the Cavity Magnetron, the first device capable of generating microwave energy at a sufficient power level to make centimetric radar possible. Before the cavity magnetron was invented at Manchester University, the only way to make microwaves was a Klystron, and those cannot generate anything like the power to make a practical radar and suffer massive attenuation problems.

I don't buy that whatever Tesla was working on in his later life was so wierd and out of the normal that we still don't know about it, much more likely is that all his work has been used long ago, incorporated into mainstream discoveries. Much like the US took their share of the German aircraft industry and from it came the space programme, the flying wing stealth aircraft and many other innovations, they will have done the same with Tesla's work - used his data to further their own research.

Most conspiracy theories hold little water and the Tesla one to me, just doesn't have much veracity. There are still people who believe we never went to the moon, well, how many people around the world had their telescopes pointed at the moon for the whole time and actually SAW Apollo go there and come back? Tens if not hundreds of thousands, so bang goes that theory.

Yes, it's sinister and strange that Tesla's work was carried off in it's entirety by the US govt never to be seen again, but you could say the same thing about the Horten Bros flying wings, they disappeared from Nazi Germany in 1945 and the only example known was hanging in the Smithsonian in Washington. 40 years later the first stealth aircraft appear in the US and whaddya know - they are largely based on the Horten flying wing concepts and the test data gathered by the Horten Bros in Germany in the 1930s and 40s.

You never know, we may yet see some unusual and advanced piece of technology based on Tesla's work appear from some govt black project, but much more likely, Tesla's work has been exploited long ago, Pulse Doppler Radar for example, could well have been developed from some of Tesla's concepts.

One other thing, often we forget that very little in the field of human ideas is new. Look at the solar power projects being built around the world that use an array of mirrors to focus the sun's energy onto a tower, well, if you brought Archimedes forward in time from Ancient Greece to see one of those solar stations he would recognise what it was doing and how it worked instantly, as he had already built something similar - arrays of mirrors that were used to focus the sun's energy into one spot, but Archimedes used his mirror arrays to set light to things such as Roman ships.

Finally, you don't have to kill or imprison someone to destroy a promising technology. The UK govt are experts as destroying technology, Thatcher did it with the 'nodding ducks' that should have been generating most of our electrical power in the UK from wave power for the last 25 years, she also managed to destroy the HOTOL project too, which was an engine that worked not only in the atmosphere but also in the vacuum of outer space along with an accompanying space plane design. If HOTOL hadn't been destroyed than we would have been flying planes back and forth into orbit for ages, but instead, we got lumbered with the Space Shuttle, Ariane and ultra-expensive routes for putting things into earth orbit.

 

[gingerale]

I haven't read a single post in this thread, and don't plan to. All I came here to say is:

WILL YOU PLEASE QUIT RAPING NIKOLA TESLA'S GOOD NAME BY ASSOCIATING IT WITH THIS FREE ENERGY BULLSHIT.

Thank you.

 

[turbolaser4528]

ramble ramble ramble, who cares. lets see some actually real life practical generation of electricity in action. that is what we need here, im surprised theres not more genny threads in here

 

[GoatCheese]

I haven't read a single post in this thread, and don't plan to. All I came here to say is:

WILL YOU PLEASE QUIT RAPING NIKOLA TESLA'S GOOD NAME BY ASSOCIATING IT WITH THIS FREE ENERGY BULLSHIT.

Thank you.

Are you sure, it's not you doing just that? ...i'd read some of Tesla's own lectures if i was you .. cause you seemingly don't know anything about the man.

Peace.

 

[GoatCheese]

There's no "Golden Age" coming. The fact is, the majority of people are so dependent on the system as it is that they will never be able to give it up completely and start afresh - excuse me for being so negative, but how many people actually want to work for what they get (I don't mean your 9 to 5)? You're all stoners: how many of your lazy fucking friends were too useless to fucking go out every May, germinate some seeds, grow a little stash? Most of them I bet. They'd rather pay the thousands of dollars to buy their weed. Who wants to walk through the woods carrying gallons of water in the middle of July heat? Not most people. On some level, it's not humanities fault: we've been fucked by the goals and ambitions and personal interests of an elite class, and we've been taught that the only way to fit in is to spend life trying to achieve that same status - much like the bullshit religions teach.


The sad thing is, people will be retards, no matter what. How hard is it to conceptualize the simple fact that the VERY FEW PEOPLE benefiting from the corporate landscape, who control the prison system, who control the educational system, who control the political system, who control the economic system will do whatever it takes (still playing by the rules of their system) to stifle any competition that could lead to their dissolution...

Yeah, OF COURSE Exxon-Mobile is going to fund technology that would render their monopoly powerless. I'm sure that the few people living a carefree life (I can't imagine how liberating it would feel knowing I had a multimillion dollar bank account and could live however I wanted - take a random flight to Jamaica or Amsterdam, then go to one of my many houses....) would gladly give up their material paradise for the betterment of you and me...have you guys not seen Russo's interview with Alex Jones?

If you're so naive to think that the elite class doesn't look down on the rest of us as pathetic pawns, you're mistaken. Nick Rockefeller admitted "the grand plan."

There's technology to split atoms, but there's not the power to spread lies to bunch of drones? Pfff... Most people are retards. It stuns me how retarded my peers are. Honestly, some of the most retarded individuals float right on through the university/college setting effortlessly. It's a joke. Shit, people are the easiest animals to control...the war is in your heads people...read Bernays, you tardnuggets. Everything you fucking THINK has been SPOONFED to you...you "de-bunkers..." you'll be the first to go and you'll get it the worst..trust me...along with those of the upper-middle class...just didn't make the cut, eh? Then you'll be between a rock and a hard place...don't come lookin' to post up on my farm's porch when you're left high and dry by your so-called benevolent government.

Once you've all decided you're ready to start the revolution let me know.

Word! ...as they say.


But when you actually start thinking about how big of a percent of population is actually these "idioits" ..and how many are just scammed people, who have very little means to do anything about it (by themsleves), then you can understand that maybe 95% (or more) of world polulation are the SCAMMED PEOPLE!!

..so, there actually might be very few "retards", of which most people just don't concider their actions and so aren' actually "bad people" ..just abit un-thinking.

.. it is said that 50% of worlds wealth is owned by 2% of worlds polulation ..but i'm sure over 90% of the world peoples are just trying to put food on the table and maybe enjoy their lives alittle.

...and like it is in sports .."if the rules of the game allow this kind of play ..then it's ok and nothing criminal" .."the American Dream"

= when people in capitalist countries pay very little for products, it's taken away from some other peoples table..
But communism was and is nothing but capitalism ..it was just criminal.
in communist countries they produced alot of goods, which then was sold to capitalists ..and the crooked commie-politicians allways stole the money ...allways. This is the reason communism never worked. Thou i diss like communism/socialism for other reasons as well.

Laters

 

[the_red_bull]

There's a lot of people that don't want free energy, just like there's a lot of people that don't want free marijuana.

 

[hashit]

I'd rather read about this on a physics forum rather than from a site full of tin-foil conspiracy theorists...because the mindset here is set to "KEEP THE MAN DOWN..GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACY" by default.

http://www.physicsforums.com/archive/index.php/t-12430.html

There are tons of myths about Free Energy as well...but I will not dive into that idea since it will be simply debunked with a youtube video of abovetopsecret link(LMAO)...simply search for "Free Energy Myths" on google.

 

[hashit]

we need the clock to set our equipment, our coffeepots, or whatever. (BULLSHIT)

(ITSALLABOUTPOWERANDGREED)

Most of the items listed need power even when they are off...especially if its using to store the time and settings...why is this bullshit? You need a continuous charge to keep those settings in memory unless you use some sort of battery backup.

 

[VerdantGreen]

Tesla did some great and interesting work, but free energy? there is no such thing...


Leonardo da Vinci said it best - this must be one of the best put-down lines in history
"Oh, ye seekers after perpetual motion, how many vain chimeras have you pursued? Go and take your place with the alchemists"

VG

 

[the_red_bull]

This thread reminds me of this old movie called "coffee and cigarettes". There was this part with the White Stripes (the band) and Jack White was talking to his sister about Nicoli Tesla. He had a tesla coil that he built and was dragging around in his little red wagon.

 

[bombadil.360]

the red bull, I think I saw that movie... isn't that one where Bill Murray sparks up a conversation with the Rza and the Gza? lol cool flick.

peace

 

[the_red_bull]

the red bull, I think I saw that movie... isn't that one where Bill Murray sparks up a conversation with the Rza and the Gza? lol cool flick.

peace

Yeah it was an old independent movie with all these random celebrities in it.

 

[turbolaser4528]

energy is everywhere, you just have to know how to tap into it. So yeah in that sense it is free. Did you know if you hammer a nail into a tree and ground it you get current??

yeah you can get electricity from trees, the ground, the air, the water, gravity, the sun, everywhere, etc..

just a matter of capturing it efficiently.


is the sun not free??? do we have to pay for sunlight? no, it is free and constant energy radiating upon mother earth. just gotta capture it, sure solar panels cost $, but the energy itself DOES NOT.


were already in the golden age, living self sufficiently is just the beginning, no negativity needed here, all about progression peeps

 

[SpasticGramps]

I love how you conspiracy nuts make new names to post with so people don't pre-judge your "scientific" argument.

I don't make up a new name to post my conspiracy ramblings. I'm quite happy that I can look past the prevailing conventional wisdom of the day.

The Earth was once also flat. You were put to death if you said otherwise . Those silly crazy "the Earth is actually round" conspiracy nutters seem to be popping up all over the place these days.

This is interesting I'll have to look more into it. I don't know about the technology. If it existed, I absolutely believe that the powers that be would hide something like this to maintain the current economic status quo for their slaves.