Newbie needs help, 1st gro

[bartender187]

^^^^^^
You got to start somewhere though. I could never get myself to kill a MJ plant... no matter its orgins. Just hit him up for that offer, and grow em along side with the seeds you have left.

Although bag schwag seeds im sure are alot harder to grow then some decent genetics.

bartender187

my .02

 

[LeeroyJackson]

Gday

Gday

Bartender i agree you got to start somewhere man.

My first 2 grows were bag shwag, i still remember how they turned out very well considering they were deformed and unstable.

I didnt mean to say growing bag seeds was a waste of time, definatly its not.

In many cases some people may advise to use bag seeds on the first few grows to not wreck any genetics, so i guess its just up to the persons choice.


Bag seed or good genetics, its all good

 

[I.M. Boggled]

Seedling

Seedling

The second pair of leaves begins the seedling stage.
They are set opposite each other and usually have a single blade.
They differ from the embryonic leaves by their larger size, spearhead shape, and serrated margins.
With the next pair of leaves that appears, usually each leaf has three blades and is larger still.
A basic pattern has been set.
Each new set of leaves will be larger, with a higher number of blades per leaf until, depending on variety, they reach their maximum number, often nine or 11.
The seedling stage is completed within four to six weeks.

Vegetative Growth
This is the period of maximum growth. The plant can grow no faster than the rate that its leaves can produce energy for new growth.
Each day more leaf tissue is created, increasing the overall capacity for growth.
With excellent growing conditions, Cannabis has been known to grow six inches a day, although the rate is more commonly one to two inches.
The number of blades on each leaf begins to decline during the middle of the vegetative stage.
Then the arrangement of the leaves on the stem (phyllotaxy) changes from the usual opposite to alternate.
The internodes (stem space from one pair of leaves to the next, which had been increasing in length) begin to decrease, and the growth appears to be thicker.
Branches which appeared in the axis of each set of leaves grow and shape the plant to its characteristic form...

 

[Guest]

Some of thos did look a little "challenged" lets say. The last pics were lookin a little better.

If your in plastic cups you could heat up something metal and push it through the bottom or side very easy. Like a kabob skwer or fork tyne, a poker. After I have holes in my cup, I set inside another cup. I let it drain most of the residual water first.

Your soil looked alittle dry but its so hard to tell by pics. I wouldn't fill the cups so high, it make watering and fidling with alot less messy.

Don't worry so much about stretching when they haven't displayed at least one set of true leaves.

Get a fan going to move the air. Not directly on them but circulating air around. This helps strengthin the stem and help in keeping a short stature plant.

Get some decent beans. I've got some Skunk #1 here I could get ya just pm me.

Good grow man. Remember that it's a process of learning, kind of a marathon, anything we can do to help holler.

Tex

 

[ganjarific]

thanks for all the tips guys. im going to find a nail after this. ill keep u guys updated. should i water them afterwards till the soil at the bottom begins to leach? not sure what to do with the water stil haha . oh well, the advice is ALWAYS apprecciated. peace

-grific

 

[toofat]

You don't want to soak the plants. I always water when the top 2-3 inches of the soil is dry. Too much water and you kill your babies. While they are seedlings give them small amounts of water.

Another way is to check the weight of the cup. When it fills light give it a little water. As your plant grows it will use more water. Also don't let it get bone dry(drooping leaves).

 

[toofat]

I believe the reason you have to hold them up is because they have stretched too much for lack of light. If they were mine I would replant them deeper in the cups to make up for the stretching. Then keep the floros close(2-3"). You want the soil moist, not soaking.

Did you do any reading on the link that I gave you? You really need to do some reading. Everyone here is willing to help, but you still need to read.

This is a plant at 13 days under 80 watt shop light. No stretching.
I only watered with 2oz. of water every 3 days.

 

[ganjarific]

thanks for the tip 2fat. the picture helps ALOT. i guess im just one of those visual learners. put the kids closer the the fluro. do you think they're doing alright for their age? thanks again for the tip. peace

-grific

 

[toofat]

Are you going to replant? If you do follow TK's advice and don't fill the cups up to the brim with soil.

 

[ganjarific]

the soil was kind of loose on them already. i gently pushed it down when they were dry. after that i put about a third of an inch more soil around the bases of the stems. they seem to be doing fine. i let them dip their feet into a "pool" of water an gave them a small foliar feed. they seem to be doing fine. should i plant them deeper or replant altogether? ill post some pics when i get new batteries for me camera. peace

-grific

 

[toofat]

What do you mean by foliar feed? You should not feed them until they are 2 weeks old. Then you feed them at 1\4-1\2 strength. I repeat did you read?

 

[Guest]

Foliar Feed......to mist them with whatever. I do it just in case it gets too hot and fries them. Helps if it is a low humidity space your growing in and dont have a dome to go over it.

Blatant

 

[toofat]

Blatant, I know what foliar feed is. I was just questioning if he actually meant foliar feed or foliar watering. He shouldn't feed seedlings under 2 weeks old.

 

[ganjarific]

water

 

[LeeroyJackson]

Gday ganjarific

Gday ganjarific

Sorry if i sounded rude before, saying they looked like sad little seedlings.

What i meant to say was, in my opinion they dont look very well and i would be surprised if they made it back from such deformity.
(Im refering to the first pics of the sick one)

In saying that though, Bartender is right advising you to keep trying to save them, you never know what might happen.
Your later shots look pretty good and healthy so you will prbably end up doing very well with those if they keep improving

I think its great that you have some nice guys offering you their genetics.

Best of luck on what ever you decide,
Leeroy

 

[ganjarific]

thanks leeroy, and non taken . i know their pretty sad kiddos themselves. i appreciate the support. as the saying goes: when god gives you lemons... grow pot ? anywho, take it easy guys

-grific

 

[ganjarific]

new pics

new pics

here are some updated pics of the garen. they are about4-5 days old now, i think... anyway, here they are (let me know what you think):

(same one):

and temp:

feedback is always appreciated
peace

-grific

 

[toofat]

I think they are too tall to be so young. Are you afraid to replant them and bury them deeper? You either need to replant or start over. If you need some beans pm me.

 

[LeeroyJackson]

Gday grific

Gday grific

They are looking much better thsan the first pics, by the way, where did you get your hygrometer?

Online or local?

Cheers,
Leeroy

 

[ganjarific]

update

update

hello everyone , how's it goin? today i decided my only seedling was strechin way to far. i decided to transplant. in the five horrific minutes that soon followed this decision, my baby lost approximately 80% of its root system it had only one root left, the main one. immediately afterwards, it appeared almost as though the leaves closed together to shrivel and die. anywho, here are some pics from last night and this morning. i only hope my baby can sustain my neglegence

i streched her leaves out gently because they literally closed together any words of wisdom would be appreciated in the assitance of saving my only little one. peace

-grific