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eLiguL
SoEx said:
Depends on what kinda paint it is. Buy a cheapo strainer and get it outta there. It might not do any harm but it will definitely not do you any good.
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Depends on what kinda paint it is. Buy a cheapo strainer and get it outta there. It might not do any harm but it will definitely not do you any good.
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Don Cotyle
I think your idea or a fan to blow air on the plants is a good idea! Keep your fan intake low on the floor and it will pick up the cooler air, also venting your hot exhaust out the door should keep yur room cooler. Have you germed any more beans? 8 total would be your optimum #, then you'll end up with 3-6 females and have a decent harvest!
Keep on Keeping on, stay safe and have fun!
Keep on Keeping on, stay safe and have fun!
Don Cotyle said:
I'm hoping to receive some here soon and to germ a bunch more.
Little update:
DAY 15 FROM SOWING
Master Kush:
Lemon Stinky:
The first set of leaves look a bit haggered, could it be the temps? I'm going to fix things up this weekend hopefully with regard to temps in chamber.
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eLiguL
Ya it looks like they are transpiring to keep cool.
Small update
DAY 16 from Sowing:
Master Kush:
Lemon Stinky:
Wee. Ph has dropped a bit so I'm slowly triyng to bring it back a bit so it doesn't go below 5.5ish.
Anyhow, no nutrients until the cotyledons start yellowing, right?
They're both working on their third set of true leaves
DAY 16 from Sowing:
Master Kush:
Lemon Stinky:
Wee. Ph has dropped a bit so I'm slowly triyng to bring it back a bit so it doesn't go below 5.5ish.
Anyhow, no nutrients until the cotyledons start yellowing, right?
They're both working on their third set of true leaves
I feed from the moment they sprout. I don't know what nutes you're using. I'm using General Hydroponics FloraMicro and FloraBloom (no FloraGro). The bottle says 1/4 tsp per gallon of each in the seedling stage. Upon advice from others using DWC, I'm using them at half strength. 1/8 tsp per gallon in seedling, 1 tsp per gallon for transition to bloom. Mine still seem a bit pale but, I'm waiting on TDS and pH equipment to show up before I try a stronger concentration.
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eLiguL
SoEx said:
Just a suggestion, you might wanna lay off the nutes until your plants show signs of needed them. Its almost always better to underfeed than to overfeed.
Hm. The image uploader is still wonky, but I somehow managed to upload one.
Are those little things along the main branch intersections going to turn into branches, or leaves? I guess I'm a bit confused about certain parts of cannabis anatomy, heh.
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I looked and there are some yellow/brown spots on the cotyledons of both plants. I dunno.
Are those little things along the main branch intersections going to turn into branches, or leaves? I guess I'm a bit confused about certain parts of cannabis anatomy, heh.
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I looked and there are some yellow/brown spots on the cotyledons of both plants. I dunno.
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crownedsparrow
Soex, just read your entire thread. I'll be grabbing a seat for this one. Setup looks great, you are picking up everything quickly.
crownedsparrow said:
Hey hey, thanks
A lot of this thread is just me asking a lot of questions, which is why it seems so long with so little content so far, haha.
The plants are now growing really well seemingly every night, they seem like they're starting their real growth now.
The cotyledons on both plants now have some yellow/brown spotting, so I think it may be time for nutrients very soon here. I have had a gallon or so of water waiting in a cool, dark cabinet for three days so I can add the nutrient solution and adjust for ph once things are said and done.
Should I hold off on nutrients any longer? The plants seem like they're getting ready to do some real growth here now, I've noticed a lot more in terms of growth every night now. I am using the Dutchmaster Advance A+B Grow, calculator:
http://www.dutchmaster.com.au/nutrient_calculator.html
With 60L res size it says 800PPM for the first week or 150ml of grow A and 150ml of grow B.
I was thinking of adding 50ml of each instead of 150, so ~300 ppm instead of 800 to start and then working my way up as needed weekly to full strength?
Not many people seem to have used these before so I may be at a tiny disadvantage in that respect, but people who did use these nutrients seemed to like them.
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eLiguL
800ppm(@ .5 hanna conversion) is gonna kill your plants if they are at 1 week. If your ppm meter has arrived you should find out the ppm of your tap water first. I wouldnt trust the label on your nute bottle if thats what they are suggesting. I use Blazeoneup's feeding schedule as a guideline(my girls like it a little lighter than he suggests).
Indica's
Seedlings and clones 300-400ppm 5.3-5.5 ph
early vegg 500-600ppm 5.3-5.6 ph
middle vegg 600-800ppm 5.4-5.6 ph
late vegg 800-1000ppm 5.5-5.7 ph
early flower 1000-1300ppm 5.5-5.7 ph
middle flower 1400-1600ppm 5.5-5.8 ph
late flower 1000-1100ppm 5.5-5.7 ph
ripening 300-500ppm 5.4-5.6 ph
sativa's
seedlings and clones 250-350ppm 5.3-5.5 ph
early vegg 300-500ppm 5.3-5.6 ph
middle vegg 500-700ppm 5.4-5.6 ph
late vegg 700-900ppm 5.5-5.7 ph
early flower 1000-1100ppm 5.5-5.7 ph
middle flower 1100-1300ppm 5.5-5.8 ph
late flower 800-1000ppm 5.5-5.7 ph
ripening 300-500ppm 5.4-5.6 ph
Those PPM's should include your tap waters PPM+ the PPM of your nutes.
Indica's
Seedlings and clones 300-400ppm 5.3-5.5 ph
early vegg 500-600ppm 5.3-5.6 ph
middle vegg 600-800ppm 5.4-5.6 ph
late vegg 800-1000ppm 5.5-5.7 ph
early flower 1000-1300ppm 5.5-5.7 ph
middle flower 1400-1600ppm 5.5-5.8 ph
late flower 1000-1100ppm 5.5-5.7 ph
ripening 300-500ppm 5.4-5.6 ph
sativa's
seedlings and clones 250-350ppm 5.3-5.5 ph
early vegg 300-500ppm 5.3-5.6 ph
middle vegg 500-700ppm 5.4-5.6 ph
late vegg 700-900ppm 5.5-5.7 ph
early flower 1000-1100ppm 5.5-5.7 ph
middle flower 1100-1300ppm 5.5-5.8 ph
late flower 800-1000ppm 5.5-5.7 ph
ripening 300-500ppm 5.4-5.6 ph
Those PPM's should include your tap waters PPM+ the PPM of your nutes.
eLiguL said:
Ah, thanks. Good to know. I'll have the PPM meter tomrorow, hopefully. Then I guess I can decide where to go from there.
dc105 said:
Thanks, sounds delicious
. I can't wait to try out more plants in this setup, these ones seem really happy at the moment!18
Lemon Stinky:
Master Kush:
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Okay,
well I have my PPM/EC meter now.
Base tap water here is showing as 111 PPM (in line with the 110 I was told by someone else).
Water from my res. is reading 151 PPM at around 6.18 ph.
What should I do with feeding, then? What ppm should I be aiming for?
If 150ml of A+B is supposed to give me 800 ppm, and my goal is ~3-400 ppm, I should go with a 1/4th strength feeding from what the calculator says?
well I have my PPM/EC meter now.
Base tap water here is showing as 111 PPM (in line with the 110 I was told by someone else).
Water from my res. is reading 151 PPM at around 6.18 ph.
What should I do with feeding, then? What ppm should I be aiming for?
If 150ml of A+B is supposed to give me 800 ppm, and my goal is ~3-400 ppm, I should go with a 1/4th strength feeding from what the calculator says?
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eLiguL
If your sitting at 150ppm then raise it to about 200ppm and bring your PH down asap(5.5 is good for them young'ins). You can slowly raise it in 50ppm incriments until you feel they getting enough nutes.
Keep a detailed log on how much nutes you are giving them at what times. It will take the guess work out next run when you start feeding them again.
Your in kind of a similiar situation as me (multi-strain in the same DWC tub) so ill give you a heads up. Different strains have different needs so its gonna be hard to keep everyone happy. Aim to keep mostly everyone happy and not just one strain. Next run you might wanna consider having separate tubs for the different strains so everyone can be happy.
Keep a detailed log on how much nutes you are giving them at what times. It will take the guess work out next run when you start feeding them again.
Your in kind of a similiar situation as me (multi-strain in the same DWC tub) so ill give you a heads up. Different strains have different needs so its gonna be hard to keep everyone happy. Aim to keep mostly everyone happy and not just one strain. Next run you might wanna consider having separate tubs for the different strains so everyone can be happy.
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eLiguL said:
Okay, I added 1 gallon of water mixed properly to bring the overall ppm to ~200, hopefully.
I used 18ml of each the A and B and tested the premixed nutrient solution witht he TDS meter -- it was what I expected. I think I got things down right. Ph of the nutrient solution actually dropped to 5.9, so it was fine to add straight to the res. I'll work on slowly lowering the ph down to optimal levels now that I have a ph checker. I'm waiting for things to get well mixed up in the res before I take a TDS and ph reading here in a few minutes.
Thanks.
Edit: yeah, I imagine things are going to get hard once I mix in two more strains in a single tub. I may go bucket next time around, may not, depending on how this goes, hopefully. I figure if I try hard enough I can get something decent from a few of these plants, and then next run I'll hopefully have a few moms to work with, or I can pop some more seeds
.When can one start taking cuttings, by the way? I'm not thinking about doing it now or anything, since they're obviously very small still, but I was just curious.
I'm going to have a kind of weird situation too: hopefully 2 plants will have a two week headstart (these ones) before I try to sow some more seeds. So I can't put the new seedlings with these two plants until the new plants catch up to these two. I was hoping to do 8 more seedlings in a seperate room with CFL for vegging. Once they're old enough I'll hopefully take clones from all 10 seedlings, flower the clones until I find out sex, then remove the males. Is this the best way to go about it? I'm just hoping for 5 viable plants to put into flower in total.
Edit 2: 218 ppm and 6.17 ph. Going to start trying to bring the ph down slowly over a set of several days, hopefully.
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