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NEW Colorado Growers Thread
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Douglas.Curtis
Autistic Diplomat in Training
Gonna spend millions on a program which will only be used for (maybe) 10 years? Hopefully less. Yeah, they're going to use it to track million acre farms. Not! 
Buncha maroons. Contaminate the marijuana supply with some chemical because... Because what, exactly?
$$$$$$$$$$$
Okay, I'd figure that the state would start doing things like making videos on how to safely smoke your weed. Including topics like, what's not safe to smoke out of and other things people and kids (17-21) should know. And what different molds on your buds looks like, so you don't smoke it if you find it on your buds.
Patmando22
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Regulations need a facelift, if its no good it shouldent be for sale. This is a shity time in history for legal cannabis everyone is all about making the most money and they dont care what toxic crap there customers are putting in there lungs. Grow your own or find someone who truly loves this plant to buy from. People who truly love cannabis cultivate it properly so they can enjoy the clean fruits of there labor. Find someone like that and buy from them if u dont grow your own.
Patmando22
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Even the best dispensaries will do whatever they have to to get there crop out even if somthing grows wrong, they will send buds to test that werent negatively effected by whatever went wrong and there whole crop will pass. Or give it a quick rinse in H2o2 to pass its bullshit.
Patmando22
Member
Dispensary grower: My whole crop is covered in powdery mildew!
Dispensary owner: what does that mean, when will it be sold?
Dispensary owner: what does that mean, when will it be sold?
There are larger issues that are behind that issue. First issues are cultural / horticultural practices that are used in the Legal grow operations. They have a lack of genetic diversity with in the clones they grow out. I'm not talking about cuttings from different varieties, but cuttings from just one plant. If that plant/cutting is prone to any form of molds or any other issues, all resulting cuttings will have the same issues of being prone to said issues. Part of the issue is they keep growing the same cuttings over and over again that have the same issues that keep happening again and again with that cutting.
They don't grow out a large group of plants from seed to find the best plants and look for the plants that are resistant to different molds with in the population of selected keepers. Lots of the "owners" of legal facilities will snark at growing/starting seeds as a waste of time.
So a cutting that is from a plant that is over 20 years old (or older, or younger) and is prone to mold will always be prone to that mold. The mold continues to adapt over the years and the cutting from that one plant doesn't. Look to bananas as an example, seedless and propagated by use of clones/cuttings to grow new plants.
Douglas.Curtis
Autistic Diplomat in Training
You see any photos of large flowering rooms for a dispensary, and the workers aren't wearing clean suits (headgear and all), you know they're most likely spraying **something** at some point. Several times a year at least. Knew a guy working for a dispensary in Breckenridge who turned in the head grower. The guy proposed a spray schedule way outside the bounds. Head grower lost their job, which is weird. I figured the owner of the dispensary/grow would've allowed it.
Uncontrolled bits of nature just are not innocuous enough to allow them in a huge square footage flower area.
Uncontrolled bits of nature just are not innocuous enough to allow them in a huge square footage flower area.
I don't think having every one wearing "clean suits" all the time to be effective. It's not like it is a lab type of a situation where every thing is in a sterile environment.
Or are you just inferring to when pesticides/sprays are applied?
There are no OSHA regulations in place for cannabis farms at the moment or that would apply to worker safety and sprays/exposures.
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looks like one of your bugs is stuck to/on it's back
Douglas.Curtis
Autistic Diplomat in Training
Sterile? No. Free of pollen, bugs, spores and other things which can create the need to spray during flowering? YES!
On-site laundry/shower facilities. You come in and take a shower, your street clothes go in the laundry. Walk through and suit up, THEN walk into the access area to the grow facilities (note the plural). All air in the facilities is HEPA filtered, floors/surfaces are wet mopped on a regular schedule. Foot baths at entrances to rooms.
I'm talking about clean cannabis. Why are you talking about OSHA?? LOL
i suggest that organic practices can produce clean cannabis without all the sterility hysteria, a properly balanced soil food web loaded with beneficial micro organisms can keep pathogens in check
not to say cleanliness is not something that demands attention, just that they "entirely sterile" model doesn't seem entirely neccessary depending on methodology
not to say cleanliness is not something that demands attention, just that they "entirely sterile" model doesn't seem entirely neccessary depending on methodology
Douglas.Curtis
Autistic Diplomat in Training
The larger the flowering room, the tighter your standards better be. You'll find out why, at a hefty price, if you decide to do otherwise.
Whatever your methods, cannabis isn't clean when it's been sprayed or systemically poisoned.
Whatever your methods, cannabis isn't clean when it's been sprayed or systemically poisoned.
I think you're mostly right, particularly when it comes to native pests from the outdoor environment. OTOH, bringing home the wrong clone has been disastrous for a lot of people, including large growers as well. Those bugs can be a special breed, tested & strengthened by all the people who've tried unsuccessfully to eradicate them. They're highly adapted to cannabis grows. Some lineages have probably lived in grows for 30 years or more.
Once acquired they're nearly impossible to eradicate in a big grow, I suspect. So those growers have to find ways to control them. The best of them want to do that in ways not harmful to their customers but that doesn't mean they'll get it right, either. Part of it is that cannabis hasn't been agribusiness for very long so a lot of the protocols simply haven't been developed like they have been for other crops.
I suspect that some stuff, like powdery mildew, is just poor technique in the climate controlled environment of big grows. Spores are everywhere & unavoidable. I also think part of it is chasing fashion in cannabis rather than growing varieties chosen to be resistant to whatever problems big growers have.
