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Keif Cake

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I pretty much have to agree, it is very clear headed and I'd say it has medium potency as well. Since what ive sampled is so clear headed without raciness, it's not going to be an overpowering smoke. I do wonder how the longer flowering denser bud one I have going will be. The really hazey looking one I harvested, doesn't have hazey effects.
 

RobFromTX

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I pretty much have to agree, it is very clear headed and I'd say it has medium potency as well. Since what ive sampled is so clear headed without raciness, it's not going to be an overpowering smoke. I do wonder how the longer flowering denser bud one I have going will be. The really hazey looking one I harvested, doesn't have hazey effects.
Sounds like such an incredible smoke! I plan to give this strain a whirl at some point
 

MadMac

far beyond driven...
hello,
here are my New Caledonia #23 i'll pollinated with the OHz...
this was my fav... still have a cut ... i'll used the four strongest from that lot...
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M.
 

dubi

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So glad you have had a good round this time with NC @Keif Cake :D I like a lot the look of your high yielding long flowering pure sativa pheno :love: such expressions are probably the best in the line, i made sure to select and reproduce several females of this kind for current NC release. If you really like her terps and effects then you probably have a winner there.

I don't find this New Caledonia sativa line is related with Nevil's work with Haze. Terps and effects are different. New Caledonia pure sativa line is consistently much fruitier than NL/Hazes or Original Haze. Effects are much more brighter, happier, expansive and non ceiling than NL/Hazes. NL/Hazes are usually more potent, but dirtier, colder and much more introspective, also much heavier on body effects and burnout at the end. There are fruity expressions in Original Haze (especially in hybrids) but Original Haze is in average not a strain i would consider fruity. Incense is very strong in Haze, while is rare in New Caledonia, which in my opinion is much more Thai like.

@funkyhorse the fact they are showing sex in preflowers close to summer solstice doesn't mean they are auto or they are going to start to flower soon, they have just probably reached their sexual maturity after a long enough growth and therefore showing their gender in preflowers, but at your latitude in sourthern hemisphere they should really start to flower around March (if estimate correctly).

And you are correct, Middle East landraces are not the best genepools to look for if you are looking for pm and botrytis resistant genetics.

Hey @MadMac happy to see you around these parts :) I have been following with great interest your amazing job latest years with Original Haze and its hybrids. Pleased to know you have found New Caledonia line good enough to include her into your breeding projects. Curious to learn more about the females and traits you like most from the line!

Are you getting better results backcrossing to Haze than in your best Haze F1s ? I can hardly improve things with the backcross to Haze, at least with Oldtimer's Haze line, the really good Haze F1s are most of times superior.

So happy to hear that @Cactus Squatter :huggy: did not say lightly that this New Caledonia is the most interesting sativa landrace we have worked with and released at least in the last 5 years. Means a lot to me that someone can experience such sativa effects and appreciate them so much like you and your wife.

Happy New Year guys !! 🥳
 

Cactus Squatter

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So glad you have had a good round this time with NC @Keif Cake :D I like a lot the look of your high yielding long flowering pure sativa pheno :love: such expressions are probably the best in the line, i made sure to select and reproduce several females of this kind for current NC release. If you really like her terps and effects then you probably have a winner there.

I don't find this New Caledonia sativa line is related with Nevil's work with Haze. Terps and effects are different. New Caledonia pure sativa line is consistently much fruitier than NL/Hazes or Original Haze. Effects are much more brighter, happier, expansive and non ceiling than NL/Hazes. NL/Hazes are usually more potent, but dirtier, colder and much more introspective, also much heavier on body effects and burnout at the end. There are fruity expressions in Original Haze (especially in hybrids) but Original Haze is in average not a strain i would consider fruity. Incense is very strong in Haze, while is rare in New Caledonia, which in my opinion is much more Thai like.

@funkyhorse the fact they are showing sex in preflowers close to summer solstice doesn't mean they are auto or they are going to start to flower soon, they have just probably reached their sexual maturity after a long enough growth and therefore showing their gender in preflowers, but at your latitude in sourthern hemisphere they should really start to flower around March (if estimate correctly).

And you are correct, Middle East landraces are not the best genepools to look for if you are looking for pm and botrytis resistant genetics.

Hey @MadMac happy to see you around these parts :) I have been following with great interest your amazing job latest years with Original Haze and its hybrids. Pleased to know you have found New Caledonia line good enough to include her into your breeding projects. Curious to learn more about the females and traits you like most from the line!

Are you getting better results backcrossing to Haze than in your best Haze F1s ? I can hardly improve things with the backcross to Haze, at least with Oldtimer's Haze line, the really good Haze F1s are most of times superior.

So happy to hear that @Cactus Squatter :huggy: did not say lightly that this New Caledonia is the most interesting sativa landrace we have worked with and released at least in the last 5 years. Means a lot to me that someone can experience such sativa effects and appreciate them so much like you and your wife.

Happy New Year guys !! 🥳
I’m going to run a handful of clones of her as soon as my current R&D is finished. Can’t wait to have a pile of NC buds to play with.
 

Boss Cocky

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Happy New Year, Dubi and Ace Familia. I'm looking to grow some New Caledonia and Thai outdoor this season but I'm off to a late start. What's the latest I can sow and still have them finish on time. We're about 27S if latitude makes a difference.
Cheers
 

goingrey

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Happy New Year, Dubi and Ace Familia. I'm looking to grow some New Caledonia and Thai outdoor this season but I'm off to a late start. What's the latest I can sow and still have them finish on time. We're about 27S if latitude makes a difference.
Cheers
Latitude makes a difference but many other things affect the local climate as well. When is on time for you? June? July? Even August?
 

Boss Cocky

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Latitude makes a difference but many other things affect the local climate as well. When is on time for you? June? July? Even August?
By on time I mean the time stated in the strain description for normal in-season growing - mid May for NC. End of May/early June for Thai.
 

goingrey

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May? Hmm. Four months total. Long flowering strains and obviously won't start flowering straight away. Probably it's about time to do it if you're going to do it... But I think you can still do it. :dunno:Hopefully @dubi will chime in.
 

Boss Cocky

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May? Hmm. Four months total. Long flowering strains and obviously won't start flowering straight away. Probably it's about time to do it if you're going to do it... But I think you can still do it. :dunno:Hopefully @dubi will chime in.
No doubt dubi will chime in. My thinking was pretty much the same as yours, but then I saw dubi advise someone in another thread to sow sativas 6 weeks before equinox if they wanted to limit size. I wanted to ask if they finish on time under that scheme but I forgot where it was posted. Others have also reported growing from seed off season and having the plants finish in the time frame stated for indoor flowering for sexually mature seedlings or clones. This is a matter that has always confused me. My experience with 12/12 from seed indoors suggests that the flowering period will lengthen flowering time but the whole grow time will be considerably less than if waiting to see preflowers under 18/6 or 16/8. I wish I had kept better records. It's probably quite different when seeds are sown under the gradually reducing photoperiod outdoors though.
 

goingrey

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No doubt dubi will chime in. My thinking was pretty much the same as yours, but then I saw dubi advise someone in another thread to sow sativas 6 weeks before equinox if they wanted to limit size. I wanted to ask if they finish on time under that scheme but I forgot where it was posted. Others have also reported growing from seed off season and having the plants finish in the time frame stated for indoor flowering for sexually mature seedlings or clones. This is a matter that has always confused me. My experience with 12/12 from seed indoors suggests that the flowering period will lengthen flowering time but the whole grow time will be considerably less than if waiting to see preflowers under 18/6 or 16/8. I wish I had kept better records. It's probably quite different when seeds are sown under the gradually reducing photoperiod outdoors though.
A couple of posts have mentioned NC being quite eager to flower, which may be to your benefit in this case.

I think there will be quite a bit of variability between different sativa varieties both planted late outdoors and or forced flowering early indoors but in general I agree with what you're saying.
 

Old Fogey

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No doubt dubi will chime in. My thinking was pretty much the same as yours, but then I saw dubi advise someone in another thread to sow sativas 6 weeks before equinox if they wanted to limit size. I wanted to ask if they finish on time under that scheme but I forgot where it was posted. Others have also reported growing from seed off season and having the plants finish in the time frame stated for indoor flowering for sexually mature seedlings or clones. This is a matter that has always confused me. My experience with 12/12 from seed indoors suggests that the flowering period will lengthen flowering time but the whole grow time will be considerably less than if waiting to see preflowers under 18/6 or 16/8. I wish I had kept better records. It's probably quite different when seeds are sown under the gradually reducing photoperiod outdoors though.
Twice I've grown Malawi regular and one time Panama regular 12:12 from seed. They move rapidly through the seedling and adolescence phases and show between days 24 and 36 after first seeing light.

I believe you can finish the New Caledonia in season. I would try sowing and veging indoor under fluro, or whatever you have, for 15 days of 18:6 light as per Ace's recommendation for indoor growing of their pure sativas, then place outside. I expect it would stretch in similar proportions to an indoor plant of the same strain after being flipped on day 16.

Obviously, you are past the summer solstice. The shortening days will act relatively quickly to induce flowering in the same way that occurs with a plant sown in spring and grown all the way outdoors, with maybe a week tacked onto the front end while it grows through the late seedling stage.

Peace
 
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RobFromTX

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I plan on growing some of these out indoors with my panama and honduras. Does anyone think going directly into 11/13 light schedule would stress her?
 

olday

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I plan on growing some of these out indoors with my panama and honduras. Does anyone think going directly into 11/13 light schedule would stress her?
My experience says no, my tent has been pinned at 11/13 for years now - the indicas/hybrids don’t seem to mind a bit either
 
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