NEW.BOG Preservation Project.

[mrred]

that swiss strawberry skunk sounds bomb, im currently growing the pure from the flying dutchman the word is that it isnt the pure after he sold the company

what kinda soil/pots do you use?

 

[Care Free 1]

Hi mrred,

I use EB Stone Organic Potting Soil, and usually go 1 qt. - 2 gallon - 5 gallon in that order for seed production. Transplant timing is critical. If I am growing for personal smoke, then I go up to 15 gallon instead of 5 gallon to finish.

They have some nice 7 and 10 gallon pots out there now which interest me also.

Those hempy buckets really interest me also, so I will give them a shot this winter with some clones to see how they perform.

 

[mrred]

have you heard about air root pruning pots?

 

[Bulldog11]

Ganabose - where ya from? I am in San Fransisco bay area and would be happy to hook you up if you need help. Private Message me so I don't get into trouble from the IC moderators, but if I can help I would be glad to.

 

[BushyOldGrower]

Impressive work Carefree and I do agree that Headband OG KUSH is very close to Sour Bubble but its more like my newer sour lifesaver actually and a large group agreed that my Sour Bubble entry last year was the best of all.

Mirror, Mirror, on the wall, which is the best bud of them all?

Ya know there are a lotta good strains out here. Try afgooey kush or a good bubbakush from around here and these are pretty close.

Sour Bubble was my gift from above. I dont claim anything but I do agree that when crossed to any other strain that sour bubble never lowers potency. Just the opposite and the same goes for taste. I just love sour bubble. I called it my greatest achievement and it still may be. Thanks Carefree. BOG

 

[mrred]

WISH I COULD GET MY HANDS ON SOME BX3,or any bog strains, been trying or almost a year now,I WISH SOUTHWIND WOULD COME BACK

and bog you need to do something about bcbd, its really ruining your name. not everyone lives in ca, i hate even visiting there, to many assholes

 

[Bulldog11]

I agree with you mrred, but what can BOG do about it? Screw BCBD if they are giving you a bad name, but with them being in a different country I think your actions may be limited. Peace.

 

[mrred]

"sbx3" recent grow http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=129097

noo doubt bog is a good breeder, and the saying if you want to do something right you gotta do it yourself, is no truer than the case with bog, plan b and bcbd.

 

[Care Free 1]

have you heard about air root pruning pots?

Hi mrred,

I know they use those pots in nursuries for ornimentals, and it is an interesting process, but I do not use those for growing cannabis because the life cycle in the pots is so short.

My plants are 17 days in 1 qt, 5-6 weeks in 2 gallon, and finish around 8 weeks in 5-15 gallon pots. It is such a short cycle in each pot, that I dont know if air root pruning would show any benefit. I have not experimented with it though, so I could not say for sure if it would increase yield or anything.

I find that lots of root space with amended organic soil and proper transplant timing gives me the results I am looking for just about every time.

 

[Care Free 1]

qanabose

I sympathize with you about the situation you are going through. You got to give those guys 1-2 months an maybe you will recieve your package.

 

[Care Free 1]

Impressive work Carefree and I do agree that Headband OG KUSH is very close to Sour Bubble but its more like my newer sour lifesaver actually and a large group agreed that my Sour Bubble entry last year was the best of all.

Mirror, Mirror, on the wall, which is the best bud of them all?

Ya know there are a lotta good strains out here. Try afgooey kush or a good bubbakush from around here and these are pretty close.

Sour Bubble was my gift from above. I dont claim anything but I do agree that when crossed to any other strain that sour bubble never lowers potency. Just the opposite and the same goes for taste. I just love sour bubble. I called it my greatest achievement and it still may be. Thanks Carefree. BOG

Hi BOG,
You definatley have a good eye for weed, because that is Headband OG, and if it did not get 6 feet tall, then I would have thought it was related to Sour Bubble.

Looks I am going to have to move heaven and earth to get some of your Sour Lifesaver. I cant let that one get away if you think so highly of it.

I also think the Sour Bubble is a special gift, and I will testify to that, along with all my good friends that have sampled it. They love all your gear, and your strains will always have prime spot in my growrooms. They are the perfect plants IMO, and are everything I love about growing.

The only issues I have with your strains are when the gang is smokin Sour Bubble, I have to ween them off it to get them to want anything else.

 

[Care Free 1]

WISH I COULD GET MY HANDS ON SOME BX3,or any bog strains, been trying or almost a year now,I WISH SOUTHWIND WOULD COME BACK

and bog you need to do something about bcbd, its really ruining your name. not everyone lives in ca, i hate even visiting there, to many assholes

mrred,

Grapevine Seeds, and Grindhouse Seeds both released Sour Bubble incrosses to the general public. I have also seen many growers release some wonderful Sour Bubble hybrids during the server fund auctions on Seedbay recently, so you have had oppertunities to get a taste of BOG's work if you wanted.

Southwind has given me the opertunity to preserve some of the limited genetics he had, but those are in very early stages of working those lines, and are not close to completion.

I know what you are saying though, because nothing beats original material from BOG, and it takes a lot of work to find anything close. He has the original parental material after all. It was wonderful back in the day when I could go online and buy BOG's stuff anytime I wanted, but those days are over for now.

Southwind and I live in Cali, and BOG also, so saying you hate visiting Cali because there are to many assholes will get you nowhere IMO!!!!!

 

[K.J]

Hi mrred,

I know they use those pots in nursuries for ornimentals, and it is an interesting process, but I do not use those for growing cannabis because the life cycle in the pots is so short.

My plants are 17 days in 1 qt, 5-6 weeks in 2 gallon, and finish around 8 weeks in 5-15 gallon pots. It is such a short cycle in each pot, that I dont know if air root pruning would show any benefit. I have not experimented with it though, so I could not say for sure if it would increase yield or anything.

I find that lots of root space with amended organic soil and proper transplant timing gives me the results I am looking for just about every time.

Do you ever get roots that wrap around and around the container by the end of the cycle? If so, air pruning pots like Airpots or SmartPots might be a boon to you. I've used both and have never experienced root circling because the roots die back and start growing in many directions instead of circling the pot looking for more fresh soil.

 

[Care Free 1]

Do you ever get roots that wrap around and around the container by the end of the cycle? If so, air pruning pots like Airpots or SmartPots might be a boon to you. I've used both and have never experienced root circling because the roots die back and start growing in many directions instead of circling the pot looking for more fresh soil.

Hi K.J

I do get that pattern at the end of the flower cycle when in 5 gallon pots, but I grow 5 gallon only for seed production. Those pots are filled top to bottom with dense root structure anyway

When I am growing for performance and personal smoke, I go to much larger pots to finish, and if timed right, I get pretty uniform root growth in the pots. But I do line the bottom of the larger pots with perlite, or pea rock for better drainage, so when the roots hit that area they are probably exposed to more air and that could be a form of air root pruning I guess.

Like I said, my experience is the bigger the pot, and proper transplant timing with organic soil, the better the performance. Maybe I will pick up a few of those pots to try them out on my next visit to the nursery. I am willing to experiment with hempy buckets, so it wont hurt to try a few airpots to see if they make a difference also.

 

[K.J]

I am willing to experiment with hempy buckets, so it wont hurt to try a few airpots to see if they make a difference also.

I would be very interested in your results. I've certainly not been growing long enough to test out the various methods. But based on my results, I can see how they might improve the root structure, especially in smaller pots.

 

[norcalsmoker]

Care Free 1 thats funny, I was thinking the same thing when I read assholes in cali.... done come then...hehehehe Funny thou seems theres everything in cali u would ever need.

Care Free 1 you are the man, I ve been around since OG diffrent screenname, and you are the man... when I hit my post count I would like to pm you so maybe we could trade notes....just an idea since ur in cali.
Now that bog is here to.Well that just makes it heaven on earth.


Bog that sour lifesaver sounds amazing..will have to start searching the Sacramento valley clubs to try and find who has them. I have stuff from grindhouse and southwind on the sourbubble plants but would like to get some of the bog strains that I lost over the years. B4 sour bubble I was hooked on grape punch after years of no bog to see him well and in cali... woooo hoooo oooohhh sorry got carried away the meds due it to me.

! question Bog does anywhere in sac carry ur seeds.

 

[Bulldog11]

KJ - I have been interested in those pots also. I have a flood and drain system that I use Hydorton (sp) in, and when my plants finish they have the roots completly tangled with each other. I have tried to put Hydroton on the whole tray, and then tried only in the pots. Same results.

For me the smart pots may make it possible for the roots to not grow out of the containers, which would enable me to move my plants around without ripping roots out.

Hope this isn't high jacking the thread, peace out and happy farming.

 

[Care Free 1]

What interests me the most about these containers are thier claims of improved temperature control, especially since the black plastic containers really bake when growing outdoors in my area.

Since these are one shot pots, container size is another issue, so I would have to experiment with a few of them to see. Normal up pot progression would lead me to 5 gallon or larger containers, so I guess you would start the plants out as seedlings or clones in the larger pots and let them do there thing.

That also means no fresh soil to aid in the life of the plant, and there would be a learning curve for nutrient applications, since you are stuck in this one pot for life.

Also the cost issue, since these pots are three times the cost of plastic containers, and are not reusable.

They claim more fiberous roots, which obviously is a good thing. There are pitfalls to black plastic containers, but they are overall cost effective in the long run when proper transplant timing is used., especially if on a tight budget.

If money is not an issue, then these smart pots might make alot of sense, after your learning curve with them. Definately worth a look at least. Also those Bato Buckets, and Earth Boxes have some interesting features also.

Maybe run a side by side:
Hempy Buckets
Earth Box
Bato Bucket
Smart Pot
Regular Black Plastic w/no transplant
Reglar Black Plastic w/ transplant progression (normal grow for me)

Run them with clones from the same plant to get the best comparison

 

[mrred]

im going with roottrapper, its a bag, designed for growing trees, with white on the outside, they are super cheap(little over 2 dollars per 5 gallon) too because they are designed not to be reuseable, but i figure its a bag so ill be able to squeeze it and hopefully that will help release it from the bag, the company also sells a bag that allows roots to grow out the bottom too.

 

[Care Free 1]

Care Free 1 you are the man, I ve been around since OG diffrent screenname, and you are the man... when I hit my post count I would like to pm you so maybe we could trade notes....just an idea since ur in cali.
Now that bog is here to.Well that just makes it heaven on earth.

PM me anytime norcal

I am a little slow to respond to all the PM's because of work issues and the crazy shit that's been going down lately, but I will get caught up in the next week or so.

Big prep time for winter grows happening right now, so this next week will be 18 hour work days, 7 days a week until we are ready.

I just put 20 seeds from one of the Sour Bubble plants taken down a couple weeks ago into a paper towel and bag, and 6 have sprouted so that is a good sign so far and are in soil. Those seeds need a couple more weeks of curing for sure, but I already have over 50 seedlings going.

A big problem just came up with some very important seedlings. While I was on vacation, I had a very important lot of Sour Bubble seedlings from Grapevine being cared for by a friend, so I went to go get them and found they were totaly infested with spider mites. He thought he over watered them, but I looked and found dozens of mites on the bottom side of those poor little leaves, and those little f/r's desimated those plants.
Luckily it was only 8 plants because I waited till I got back to germ the rest, but still!!!!!