🤩… NEVILS HAZE x TOM HILL HAZE

[harvestreaper]

man always division ,,sam vs nev ,,nev vs tom i never cared for that cheerleader stuff myself ,,i just want the best haze ,,maha i think thh is thai sk haze myself i told tom to his face he didnt take offence ,,why would he , its nothing more than opinion , i think its great stuff and im enjoying starting to look thru the genetics ,, i put no one on a pedestal look at neville on the vidios telling people he working in the lab and they now releasing nl ,,,everypone now knows nl was given to him lol by the way i agree with near all you say on nl and highs and love your breedings and watching fb show there beauty ,,,peace in the valley chaps otherwise no haze allowed lol

 

[MAHA KALA]

Maha

Why Soo much Hate in your Blood . Your a liar outright , I Hate liars

Soo you discredit other’s opinions but yours should be put on a pedestal. Different opinions are stupid and not valid in your book
Damn you need a reality check , sounds like you never got chin checked

I wasn’t going to respond but dont ever put words in my mouth

I don’t ever recall Saying Tom Hill haze was skunk Haze , quote that post please I invite you

hehehehe when somebody says that original haze is crap, it is not opinion... it is misinformation or lie... according to my experience... and thats what Nevil said and these sleazy motherfuckers repeat. opinion... like it is not about opinions. it is about knowledge which you dont have... opinions LOL but I said that to you already, you waste my time as usually with your opinions.. you stoners stories historian LOL how it sounds right? hahahahaha

we grow genetics and getting known it somehows, not getting opinion LOL it is not about internet discussion... like sfv og kush, we know about it what is the smell of it and what effect it has, and it is not opinion... and this sfv og kush will never smoke like malawi gold, again not opinon... we know that.


and also the effec of colombain haze is clear to all who smoked and we all agree on it. again it is not matter of opinon. but matter of how it is...

yes, dont lie, you tried to imply that because of broader leafs, there is indica in toms haze, and showing some weak colombian with more narrow leafs to it, like it is more sativa or something. but leaf morphology has nothing to do with the effect... so yes, you did and yes you dont understand the shit.

smoke your piff, enjoy it and dont try to act like you understand something, as you read somewhere only... stopped that stupid incense bullshit. get real life instead of it.

 

[Koondense]

I think it's mostly down to access to haze...
The opinions are drawn around the experiences(personal or other).
To me it was mind opening to try to grow and smoke many different sativas and also Haze which I got from different sources.
Grew some inbred hazes and haze hybrids(but not the old hybrids) and found a wide range of effects but can still make up the overall experience of Haze as something special.
My preferred is still Johnny's OriginalHaze while I was not impressed by THH, at least not with the plants I got out of a few seeds and the way I was able to grow them.
Will I ever say THH is shit? Never, all I can say is I did not have a good chance of growing and smoking it so can't make a statement like that.

Seeing how FlowerPower is managing his girls...I can only say they seem some of the happiest and best looking plants around and I feel this hybrid between NH and THH could bring out some exceptional traits.
Let's wait and see...

Meanwhile you guys have a great weekend and enjoy your sativas and hazes...
(got 4 PanOHaze x OHaze and one SweetSkunkS1 plants, moving them soon under 12/12)

Cheers

 

[MAHA KALA]

yeah Koon, that is limited experience, to grow few plants from "reproduction" from few plants,so you cant really judge it... what is value of such experience? zero.

 

[harvestreaper]

sounds like an oldscool back to the fututre cross coming there koondense

 

[MAHA KALA]

,i just want the best haze ,,maha i think thh is thai sk haze myself i told tom to his face he didnt take offence ,,why would he , its nothing more than opinion

yes, in case of you it is only opinion. and can you tell us what features of skunk did you detect in effect of toms haze? were those beans from Tom?

I know you dont rate my work too high. but it is only opinion, as you didnt grow it right?

opinions, what is for? hahhahah

 

[Koondense]

Value is more than zero but yeah, it's not a way to make a real idea about something when you're really growing something else

Cheers

 

[MAHA KALA]

Value is more than zero but yeah, it's not a way to make a real idea about something when you're really growing something else

Cheers

do you want to say I didnt grow enough of that dutch haze? hahahahahhahahah

I dont care about chicago crosses. but I grew MadMacs gear. so I grew that colombian stuff, dont get wrong opinion hahahahah also I grew old timer haze which lumbo dom.

it is all same, colombian. again I have to say that it is great euphoric pot. I have nothing against it.

if I want trippy stuff, I smoke my toms haze hybrids...

 

[Koondense]

IDK but it seems to me you have better stuff to grow

 

[MAHA KALA]

yeah even some people stopped to talk to me when I said toms haze is more fun, then that colombian x seedsman stuff... hahahahha they didnt find anything good in 30 seeds of toms haze... cant comment much on it. maybe I got lucky. who knows.

I would love to grow nevilles haze and find at least 10 thai phenos, compare them and choose one the best... but it is so hard to get thai pheno there... with toms haze it pops here and there... easily..

when I mixed it with thai hybrids, I got sour mango thai. chocolate thai, juicy fruit thai, floral brown highland thai, citric thai, metallic thai..

can I get it in seedsman crosses?

 

[Koondense]

Maybe yes but maybe it's a part of that few % Tom is always putting forward.
In any case I hope you keep it and grow as much as you can.

 

[harvestreaper]

yes, in case of you it is only opinion. and can you tell us what features of skunk did you detect in effect of toms haze? were those beans from Tom?

I know you dont rate my work too high. but it is only opinion, as you didnt grow it right?

opinions, what is for? hahhahah

what you mean i dont value your work?? i just said i think your breedings are great dont have to try them to see good pairings using good genetics off someone paying attention ,, the only thh i tried were freebies f2 from mac i do not claim to be an expert i remember the first hazes in europe and the first haze hybrids ive said a few times on here my grail was a sk haze from posi i was also smoking pure thai in dam for over a decade before tom arrived so i dont feel my opinion is disrespectful to anyone or implys im an authority of any kind just a smoker with an opinion ,,,feautures of sk in high very very little maybe the crash on a couple of them but very little its more how people CANT see it in the structure for me i would say its been bred towarrds the thai haze side the one i still have from the f2s was very very close to my mango laos in smell which i found interesting ,,,,,,and yes opinions are just mental masturbation there is only truth and all truth can be proven lol

 

[MAHA KALA]

I dont think I will grow colombian haze dom nevilles haze and will act like it is thai, or should I predict it is like hawaiian or south african??? no I am not troll.

 

[MAHA KALA]

what you mean i dont value your work?? i just said i think your breedings are great dont have to try them to see good pairings using good genetics off someone paying attention ,, the only thh i tried were freebies f2 from mac i do not claim to be an expert i remember the first hazes in europe and the first haze hybrids ive said a few times on here my grail was a sk haze from posi i was also smoking pure thai in dam for over a decade before tom arrived so i dont feel my opinion is disrespectful to anyone or implys im an authority of any kind just a smoker with an opinion ,,,feautures of sk in high very very little maybe the crash on a couple of them but very little its more how people CANT see it in the structure for me i would say its been bred towarrds the thai haze side the one i still have from the f2s was very very close to my mango laos in smell which i found interesting ,,,,,,and yes opinions are just mental masturbation there is only truth and all truth can be proven lol

thumbs up... well I think that if there is skunk, there should be some influence in high, at leat in some phenos. like it is typical for skunkhaze... I would say that those phenos you got were not thai ones or maybe some thai mixed in, but not enough. it is still only 70% thai after all, the rest is lumbo and mexican. it is still original haze, and while Ohz is inbred it is still polyhybrid.

I used silver green thai pheno male, and still get purple phenos in progeny. not so stable at all.

as far as mango smell, colombians can be mango too, afghans can be mango too... mango is popular... the effect decides it is thai sticks or lumbo more dense more "stony" pot

there can be pheno which is 50% of lumbo, some mexican and some little of thai, many possibilities in polyhybrid. I try to choose the most thai. I used only two thai phenos. citric thai pheno female and silve thai pheno male...

oh yes I used rootbeer pheno(mexican dom) with oaxacan79 genetics, and it smokes like mexican, not thai... like I said it is about art of selection too, not only genetics.

 

[CannaT]

Its always Columbia and Thailand for a best weed and Mexico...what is common to those 3 places.

Vietnam was always weed frendly place much,much more than Thailand with always better weed there cuz of law. Weed was forbidden in Thailand since 1930's so even some European countries like Yugoslavia probably had better weed than Thailand there was legal and in some parts conditions for growing where perfect.
Also there is rocket lunch weed in India,Africa and other countries of south america and SE Asia there are places in world with also good weed even better but no one ever talk about those phenos for a Sativa.
Thailand weed was good when was grown by US man.


Not any of you with your lineages and stories is some expert here.
You are all just as I good customer which know about marketing stories of some breeders and companies that produce seeds.

Just like people that love watches they know every model where is manifactured,where parts come from,what mechanism...which price... or vine lovers,car lovers...and every other human being on earth that have love for some product.
We are fighting around marketing stories that are far away from truth.

So call your self Cannabis expert with knowladge you got in industry that is called "weed culture industry" that start with Cali Hippy move is funny.
Its just industry and you know all stories in this industry. So you better call yourself cannabis seeds industry expert.

Nothing personal but Im just high as fuck and share some higher state wisdom.

 

[MAHA KALA]

again when we say colombian weed of yestryear was kind of stony, we dont think stony like uk cheese we think it only in comparison with thai genetics.

I would still prefer pure colombian like othz, 120 day plus pot over any 77 days jack herrer both has that colombian like high, but jack is more heavy and less cerebral for sure.

but if I want electrificaton I choose toms haze hybrids.

 

[CannaT]

again when we say colombian weed of yestryear was kind of stony, we dont think stony like uk cheese we think it only in comparison with thai genetics.

I would still prefer pure colombian like othz, 120 day plus pot over any 77 days jack herrer both has that colombian like high, but jack is more heavy and less cerebral for sure.

but if I want electrificaton I choose toms haze hybrids.

Cured Jack I smoking right now and bit late harvested I think it was 105 days. Choped 15.5.23
Its like Heroine...pure body melt with very deep philozophyc way of thinking and bit of euphoria that keeps you lifted so you cant sleep, like it destroy ego and you live in total presence.


What a high man...bit more than 3 months from harvest..but it lost completly body rush and rapid heart rate....now Im in love...what a high that deep opiated euphoria.
O man will cry on this last few g's of cured herer when they gone.....
Nothing Thai here

 

[MAHA KALA]

rootbeer pheno of Toms haze, toms would not like it... hehehe it has too much pigmentation to it and he thinks it is inferior to those light green ones.

dont want it to look like I agree with everything what Tom Hill said, thats not true... I for example see that pure toms haze doesnt do that for indoors and that I need hybrids for indoors. he thinks it doenst need any outcrossing, and you can grow it indoors nicely under metal halide bulbs... I see it differently. but it is true that as far as effect pure haze doenst need any hybridization, but as far as adaptability, ease of growth and yeild, it needs it imo.

 

[CannaT]

rootbeer pheno of Toms haze, toms would not like it... hehehe it has too much pigmentation to it and he thinks it is inferior to those light green ones.

dont want it to look like I agree with everything what Tom Hill said, thats not true... I for example see that pure toms haze doesnt do that for indoors and that I need hybrids for indoors. he thinks it doenst need any outcrossing, and you can grow it indoors nicely under metal halide bulbs... I see it differently. but it is true that as far as effect pure haze doenst need any hybridization, but as far as adaptability, ease of growth and yeild, it needs it imo.

Give me baby your cut of Toms haze will pass it through my hands indoors and you can come to try it by yourself.
It will shine like no other.
There is no plant that cant be grown indoors to perfection just there are many growers who dont have capacity to grow some cuts indoors.

 

[flower~power]

That male NHz x Posi …? I cloned it way way back and then I never did anything with it and I threw it outside I just discovered that it survived all this time it’s ugly but it’s alive