🤩… NEVILS HAZE x TOM HILL HAZE

[AmericanFarmer]

It’s the name sake of the thread if you went back to page one you would understand what it’s all aboutMy apologies

 

[Chi13]

My apologies heading there now!

Ok I just was not sure if that was s the NH X THH still as there has been so many different posts with all the different haze and haze hybrids.

Haze threads are like that; rambling, arguments, and people posting their pics. flower power's threads seem to mostly remain about the intended variety.

This looks outstanding. If was in the market for more haze (which I'm not), I'd consider Maha's genetics. Happy with what I have though.

 

[flower~power]

My apologies heading there now!

Ok I just was not sure if that was s the NH X THH still as there has been so many different posts with all the different haze and haze hybrids.

Welcome to the world of Haze confusion

 

[AmericanFarmer]

Haze threads are like that; rambling, arguments, and people posting their pics. flower power's threads seem to mostly remain about the intended variety.

This looks outstanding. If was in the market for more haze (which I'm not), I'd consider Maha's genetics. Happy with what I have though.

I’m starting to catch on!
I’ve already sent Mr. Maha mail hopefully he still has the NH X THH, grateful for the warm replies. Respectfully

 

[Piff_cat]

I thought this was interesting what is in bold and Sams experience with Thai/ Laos - (Quote Below )


The very first original Haze was a late 60's three way cross of Colombian Punto Rojo, a green one, and a light magenta one, all different, all from Columbia, several years later I gave Thai and S Indian seeds that were also crossed to Haze, I had seeds of all of them, Original Haze, and Original Haze X Thai from off the stick gold Thai about 76 in Santa Cruz , called Laos at the time.

1luvbigherb

check it out so this is the 2017 lynch database phylogeny. using genotype by sequence which places strains together according to shared ancestors. it puts them in order of most primal which allows us to see where divergence happens. the most diverse oldest strains occupy the basal posiition aka the bottom of chart.

the test found surprising results when it uncovered a highly divergent basal group of ancestors and their progeny. everyone of these cultivars (with exception of thai/laos landraces) are 69 haze progeny. here are the members of this se asian nld clade

to give you an idea of how long this chart is it contains over 400 lines. this example is just the bottom half

always a big fan of your passion for haze herb and ive found alot of data which supports the "4 phenotypes after backcross" article you wrote.
i prefer to find out as much as possible about the homelands of sativa llines because even after they move(south africa to colombia etc) the stamp from their original environment is retained.

colombian genetics are especially tricky becasue multiple generations of lines from all over se asia/india plus alot of mexican lines also built the colombians in some cases the line may have had 2 or 3 layovers on the trip from primal asia on to africa then south america etc

 

[flower~power]

All I know is that she gets me incredibly high in the best way the headspace is just perfection for me I’m glad I found the one that I did

 

[bigherb]

check it out so this is the 2017 lynch database phylogeny. using genotype by sequence which places strains together according to shared ancestors. it puts them in order of most primal which allows us to see where divergence happens. the most diverse oldest strains occupy the basal posiition aka the bottom of chart.

the test found surprising results when it uncovered a highly divergent basal group of ancestors and their progeny. everyone of these cultivars (with exception of thai/laos landraces) are 69 haze progeny. here are the members of this se asian nld clade
View attachment 18871087


to give you an idea of how long this chart is it contains over 400 lines. this example is just the bottom half
View attachment 18871088

always a big fan of your passion for haze herb and ive found alot of data which supports the "4 phenotypes after backcross" article you wrote.
i prefer to find out as much as possible about the homelands of sativa llines because even after they move(south africa to colombia etc) the stamp from their original environment is retained.

colombian genetics are especially tricky becasue multiple generations of lines from all over se asia/india plus alot of mexican lines also built the colombians in some cases the line may have had 2 or 3 layovers on the trip from primal asia on to africa then south america etc

Respect brother

I appreciate your contributions , very interesting information and data you share on the Haze lines

1luvbigherb

 

[CannaT]

check it out so this is the 2017 lynch database phylogeny. using genotype by sequence which places strains together according to shared ancestors. it puts them in order of most primal which allows us to see where divergence happens. the most diverse oldest strains occupy the basal posiition aka the bottom of chart.

the test found surprising results when it uncovered a highly divergent basal group of ancestors and their progeny. everyone of these cultivars (with exception of thai/laos landraces) are 69 haze progeny. here are the members of this se asian nld clade
View attachment 18871087


to give you an idea of how long this chart is it contains over 400 lines. this example is just the bottom half
View attachment 18871088

always a big fan of your passion for haze herb and ive found alot of data which supports the "4 phenotypes after backcross" article you wrote.
i prefer to find out as much as possible about the homelands of sativa llines because even after they move(south africa to colombia etc) the stamp from their original environment is retained.

colombian genetics are especially tricky becasue multiple generations of lines from all over se asia/india plus alot of mexican lines also built the colombians in some cases the line may have had 2 or 3 layovers on the trip from primal asia on to africa then south america etc

Can you put whole picture here...it look like that big bang and lemon skunk also come from se asian landraces.

 

[bigtacofarmer]

All I know is that she gets me incredibly high in the best way the headspace is just perfection for me I’m glad I found the one that I did

I sure would love to hear how she smokes in a big fat joint?

Does she yield decent returns in your extracts?

 

[flower~power]

I sure would love to hear how she smokes in a big fat joint?

Does she yield decent returns in your extracts?

Everybody wants to know how she smokes but I refuse to smoke it .. I leave that to other people , the extracts are the best I’ve ever had so that’s got to tell you something

 

[flower~power]

OJD it’s always calling for a haze off.. if there was a local Haze off ..you know who would be there , and you know who would win

 

[flower~power]

Maha’s Haze

 

[flower~power]

And the funny thing about it I don’t think he even cares

 

[bigtacofarmer]

OJD it’s always calling for a haze off.. if there was a local Haze off ..you know who would be there , and you know who would win

I'll start my super silver sour thai nevils seeds. Might have to veg them then flower clones. I don't have the vertical space required to go full flower power!

 

[Piff_cat]

Can you put whole picture here...it look like that big bang and lemon skunk also come from se asian landraces.

heres the next 2 levels up. i squared them off so its easier to see.

it appears as tho the lines with haze A l occupy the most primal and then haze C progeny follows that.

if you notice the second group up with the lemon haze lemon skunk trainwreck and chemdog types group together. this is no surprise as chem has been show to have thai ancestry, trainwreck has old thai super lemon haze is a C line. mr nice holy grail isnt in the primal group because it has larger haze C portion then nevils haze.

then next are haze hybrids mostly haze C with larger indica portion.
here is the direct link to the chart along with another more complicated one

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/suppl/10.1080/07352689.2016.1265363?scroll=top&role=tab

 

[bigherb]

Maha’s Haze

What’s Maha’s Haze exactly you refer to this NH x Posi ?

1luvbigherb

 

[flower~power]

Yes

 

[flower~power]

I’ll try to take some better pictures of the flowers that have been curing since April 6 so you can look at them and tell me what you think

 

[bigherb]

Considering your experience with different Haze lines I’m very interested in your opinions

Soo the starcrash / JC Seedsman Haze I recall you’ve Grown and experienced

I know you’ve grown / are growing several Maha Haze hybrids

Have you grown Posi / THH ?

Now I see your High regard for this Maha Haze . But as we have had countless times in the past the conversation of comparing Original Haze lines to Haze hybrids

I’m curious what your thoughts are and how they all differ and compare

1luvbigherb

 

[flower~power]

Considering your experience with different Haze lines I’m very interested in your opinions

Soo the starcrash / JC Seedsman Haze I recall you’ve Grown and experienced

I know you’ve grown / are growing several Maha Haze hybrids

Have you grown Posi / THH ?

Now I see your High regard for this Maha Haze . But as we have had countless times in the past the conversation of comparing Original Haze lines to Haze hybrids

I’m curious what your thoughts are and how they all differ and compare

1luvbigherb

I can see that I confuse you and I can understand because I confuse a lot of people this past month