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N.Y.P.D (New York Power Diesel - Nirvana seeds)
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sounds tasty 
around september 22nd, the light hours will be less than the dark hours, so probably only after that will you find the earliest finishing ladies out of your group to be sufficently done or completely done. depending on your prefered harvest window of course.
I'll try to take close up pics of my lonely lady, she has been growing really fast and getting fat, although she's fluffly by nature. I'm hoping another 30 days will be enough for her.
peace!
around september 22nd, the light hours will be less than the dark hours, so probably only after that will you find the earliest finishing ladies out of your group to be sufficently done or completely done. depending on your prefered harvest window of course.
I'll try to take close up pics of my lonely lady, she has been growing really fast and getting fat, although she's fluffly by nature. I'm hoping another 30 days will be enough for her.
peace!
angeldust30
Member
looking great man
about the kaya and the medical strain,they dont look close to ready to me
the pistil size isn't right at all,i think she hasn't even gotten fat yet,maybe she's in the process now but she doesn't seem ready to me,neither does the medical strain
the nypd on the other hand looks alot closer to harvest,although i did think i'd see much more white on the plants do to the sun in this country after all,eye candy buds are the best
maybe after you crop it and let it dry it will look diffrently but i wouldn't grow that nypd again if that's the crystal buildup that i'm gonna get
at least by my opinion
the medical one looks nice and white but i don't think it has puffed up enough yet
anyways hope the smoke on the nypd is good and the taste too because it doesn't have that eye candy element
the kaya looks like an indica bud site not sativa so the indica should be alot more puffy,i wouldn't go first by crystal color,i'd go first by pistil size and then the color,if you crop and the crystals are amber but the bud is half the weight isn't that a shame?
i have alot of experience with dry bud that hasn't prematured,i wouldn't hurry to cut those babies off
good week man and keep up the good work
hope you get dank buds in the end
about the kaya and the medical strain,they dont look close to ready to me
the pistil size isn't right at all,i think she hasn't even gotten fat yet,maybe she's in the process now but she doesn't seem ready to me,neither does the medical strain
the nypd on the other hand looks alot closer to harvest,although i did think i'd see much more white on the plants do to the sun in this country after all,eye candy buds are the best
maybe after you crop it and let it dry it will look diffrently but i wouldn't grow that nypd again if that's the crystal buildup that i'm gonna get
at least by my opinion
the medical one looks nice and white but i don't think it has puffed up enough yet
anyways hope the smoke on the nypd is good and the taste too because it doesn't have that eye candy element
the kaya looks like an indica bud site not sativa so the indica should be alot more puffy,i wouldn't go first by crystal color,i'd go first by pistil size and then the color,if you crop and the crystals are amber but the bud is half the weight isn't that a shame?
i have alot of experience with dry bud that hasn't prematured,i wouldn't hurry to cut those babies off
good week man and keep up the good work
hope you get dank buds in the end
you're forgetting to factor the overall bud size (surface area) vs. Trich production
it is pretty hard to tell from these pics alone; with nothing to indicate the relative size
(the floor panels I'm using to protect the pots are 30 centimeters long or (12 inch/1 foot long)
its always a game of give and take, this is the reason breeding is a huge business
there is no one strain that has it all; size, wight, and trich production
the N.Y.P.D No.2 is a bit fluffy for my taste, but she is huge with a decent trich production for her size!
i cannot get both my hands put together to wrap around her top formation
N.Y.P.D No.1 on the other hand is hard as a rock with about 10-15% more trich production then her sibling No.2;
but also half the girth of No.2, just to give you proportions; N.Y.P.D No.2 cola's are as wide as both my arms put together!
now Med No.2 has the most frosty bud in the bunch thous far,
with Kaya Gold catching up fast, with that said;
Med No.2 is also relatively big (top cola's size of 2 stacked baseball),
but considerably less then the N.Y.P.D girls
its not a donkey dick top to bottom like the N.Y.P.D's are
and i can wrap around it with both my hands put together
the pistils have no part in indicating harvest or maturity of the plant
they're part of the plant's sex and reproduction mechanism
it is pretty hard to tell from these pics alone; with nothing to indicate the relative size
(the floor panels I'm using to protect the pots are 30 centimeters long or (12 inch/1 foot long)
its always a game of give and take, this is the reason breeding is a huge business
there is no one strain that has it all; size, wight, and trich production
the N.Y.P.D No.2 is a bit fluffy for my taste, but she is huge with a decent trich production for her size!
i cannot get both my hands put together to wrap around her top formation
N.Y.P.D No.1 on the other hand is hard as a rock with about 10-15% more trich production then her sibling No.2;
but also half the girth of No.2, just to give you proportions; N.Y.P.D No.2 cola's are as wide as both my arms put together!
now Med No.2 has the most frosty bud in the bunch thous far,
with Kaya Gold catching up fast, with that said;
Med No.2 is also relatively big (top cola's size of 2 stacked baseball),
but considerably less then the N.Y.P.D girls
its not a donkey dick top to bottom like the N.Y.P.D's are
and i can wrap around it with both my hands put together
the pistils have no part in indicating harvest or maturity of the plant
they're part of the plant's sex and reproduction mechanism
angeldust30
Member
i'm guessing i ment the calyx then
the upside down drop that the hair comes out from
that's what needs to swell
i think in general you kind of agreed with me
the nypd's are almost done ,i didn't say anything bad about their size,they look huge indeed,i just expected them to frost more than wht i saw,but again i agree that pictures don't always deliver what you see with your eyes and that's all that counts in the end
because i've taken so many pictures of my own plants i think i have a good estimate on how to imagine your plant,my ref are the leaf's,from big to small and then i know about how big that really is
anyways i think the medical and kaya have about 3-4 weeks in them,the nypd i'd say two weeks tops
maybe if you want it to frost a bit more another week to see if it adds some frost
the upside down drop that the hair comes out from
that's what needs to swell
i think in general you kind of agreed with me
the nypd's are almost done ,i didn't say anything bad about their size,they look huge indeed,i just expected them to frost more than wht i saw,but again i agree that pictures don't always deliver what you see with your eyes and that's all that counts in the end
because i've taken so many pictures of my own plants i think i have a good estimate on how to imagine your plant,my ref are the leaf's,from big to small and then i know about how big that really is
anyways i think the medical and kaya have about 3-4 weeks in them,the nypd i'd say two weeks tops
maybe if you want it to frost a bit more another week to see if it adds some frost
angeldust30
Member
i'm guessing i ment the calyx then
the upside down drop that the hair comes out from
that's what needs to swell
i think in general you kind of agreed with me
the nypd's are almost done ,i didn't say anything bad about their size,they look huge indeed,i just expected them to frost more than wht i saw,but again i agree that pictures don't always deliver what you see with your eyes and that's all that counts in the end
because i've taken so many pictures of my own plants i think i have a good estimate on how to imagine your plant,my ref are the leaf's,from big to small and then i know about how big that really is
anyways i think the medical and kaya have about 3-4 weeks in them,the nypd i'd say two weeks tops
maybe if you want it to frost a bit more another week to see if it adds some frost(IMO of course)
about size - all the plants look amazing in size,but then again how can u go wrong with the sun as your light that definetly helps
what i care about is size and final product,like i said if they don't frost that much but are a great smoke it should be great
i just like my buds with good eye candy because i know that effects my high
i can have a great high from a strain that doesn't look good and i just wont feel like it's doing the job even though it is
on the other hand i can get something that looks freaking delicious and it usually is,and it just works on me better
anyways that's my personal taste,so for me eye candy is a must
the medical one you have looks juicy,makes me wanna smoke it
btw the medical strain i grew turned out sick also(sick in a good way) the top crystals just look like a snowmans dump or something
the upside down drop that the hair comes out from
that's what needs to swell
i think in general you kind of agreed with me
the nypd's are almost done ,i didn't say anything bad about their size,they look huge indeed,i just expected them to frost more than wht i saw,but again i agree that pictures don't always deliver what you see with your eyes and that's all that counts in the end
because i've taken so many pictures of my own plants i think i have a good estimate on how to imagine your plant,my ref are the leaf's,from big to small and then i know about how big that really is
anyways i think the medical and kaya have about 3-4 weeks in them,the nypd i'd say two weeks tops
maybe if you want it to frost a bit more another week to see if it adds some frost(IMO of course)
about size - all the plants look amazing in size,but then again how can u go wrong with the sun as your light
that definetly helpswhat i care about is size and final product,like i said if they don't frost that much but are a great smoke it should be great
i just like my buds with good eye candy because i know that effects my high
i can have a great high from a strain that doesn't look good and i just wont feel like it's doing the job even though it is
on the other hand i can get something that looks freaking delicious and it usually is,and it just works on me better
anyways that's my personal taste,so for me eye candy is a must
the medical one you have looks juicy,makes me wanna smoke it
btw the medical strain i grew turned out sick also(sick in a good way) the top crystals just look like a snowmans dump or something
sorry if i sounded harsh; i wasn't being hard on you or anything
boost will end for the NYPD girls on Tuesday then two weeks flushing starts
Med No.2 has 3-4 weeks; and the Kaya 4-5 weeks to finish
the trichmoes dont swell, the buds themselves swell
trichomes turn amber then trichomes head falls which is not good
kind like a ripe fruit on a tree
boost will end for the NYPD girls on Tuesday then two weeks flushing starts
Med No.2 has 3-4 weeks; and the Kaya 4-5 weeks to finish
the trichmoes dont swell, the buds themselves swell
trichomes turn amber then trichomes head falls which is not good
kind like a ripe fruit on a tree
Great plants, the sun in Israel seems good
A friend grew a NYPD plant outdoors a few years ago, at first the high wasn't impressive, kinda generic trippy but after 6 months of cure it became very enjoyable. The oaxacan parent makes great hybrids and it being very fluffy, the fluffy offspring perhaps carries more of the oaxacan magic, don't dismiss it by the looks (and yield).
A friend grew a NYPD plant outdoors a few years ago, at first the high wasn't impressive, kinda generic trippy but after 6 months of cure it became very enjoyable. The oaxacan parent makes great hybrids and it being very fluffy, the fluffy offspring perhaps carries more of the oaxacan magic, don't dismiss it by the looks (and yield).
angeldust30
Member
yoss33 - i was just about to dis lady number 2 but you seem like you know what your talking about
in first glance i'd pick the no 1 because of the more uniform build and denser buds,at least that's how it seems from here but i only talk on instincts no knowledge
i'm guessing if you would have lollypoped the medical strain you would have got a similiar build to the nypd only with heavier main cola's
anyways they all look huge and healthy many many buds
the medical strain looks a bit like the one i had in the last grow,only it grew way smaller,it was in a small container and of course didn't have your sun light or grow cycle but the bud formation and the leaf ratio... everything looks very similiar
my seed came from tikun olams bud,do you know if yours came from the same supplier?
in first glance i'd pick the no 1 because of the more uniform build and denser buds,at least that's how it seems from here
but i only talk on instincts no knowledgei'm guessing if you would have lollypoped the medical strain you would have got a similiar build to the nypd only with heavier main cola's
anyways they all look huge and healthy
many many budsthe medical strain looks a bit like the one i had in the last grow,only it grew way smaller,it was in a small container and of course didn't have your sun light or grow cycle but the bud formation and the leaf ratio... everything looks very similiar
my seed came from tikun olams bud,do you know if yours came from the same supplier?
no doubt NYPD No.1 is the winner of the two
same strain, two totally different buds structure
never the less; dont judge her by her current look,
she has been loosing all her fan leaves past two weeks
as she goes through final month's boost period
here's a thought (mainly makes me feel better about NYPD2),
she may be fluffy; but for the fluffy surface area each bud has,
its loaded with resin all around it (the bud is all resin surface)
if you chop a similar size piece off a bigger bud
you'd end up with little less resin
because there's no resin on the inner bud area
as for lollipoping Med 2,
she definitely could have used some more manicuring
but i dont think she could form like NYYPD1
it was Med 2 clones i run the test on
same strain, two totally different buds structure
never the less; dont judge her by her current look,
she has been loosing all her fan leaves past two weeks
as she goes through final month's boost period
here's a thought (mainly makes me feel better about NYPD2),
she may be fluffy; but for the fluffy surface area each bud has,
its loaded with resin all around it (the bud is all resin surface)
if you chop a similar size piece off a bigger bud
you'd end up with little less resin
because there's no resin on the inner bud area
as for lollipoping Med 2,
she definitely could have used some more manicuring
but i dont think she could form like NYYPD1
it was Med 2 clones i run the test on
angeldust30
Member
this is from a pretty well known site about drugs
Resin itself, or an abundance of resin glands, is not a good indictator of potency. A mj variety may have copious amounts of resin and still be nearly worthless for smoking; another variety may have little apparent resin, but it may be super-potent. This is because much of the resin is made up of inactive ingredients, and the resin might contain mostly inactive cannaboids. Also, the active cannaboids (THC,THCV, etc.) are only necessary in amounts small enough that they may not be major components in the resin. Surprisingly, the few scientific studies that have compared the concentration of resin glands or resin to potency have found that the concentration of resin glands was negatively correlated with the potency (in other words, the fact that a variety of mj is resinous or has a lot of resin glands has little to do with its potency) Experience connoissers actually may look for a non-resinous but very potent variety - who needs cough inducing resin if it doesn't add to the high?
tell me what you think
Resin itself, or an abundance of resin glands, is not a good indictator of potency. A mj variety may have copious amounts of resin and still be nearly worthless for smoking; another variety may have little apparent resin, but it may be super-potent. This is because much of the resin is made up of inactive ingredients, and the resin might contain mostly inactive cannaboids. Also, the active cannaboids (THC,THCV, etc.) are only necessary in amounts small enough that they may not be major components in the resin. Surprisingly, the few scientific studies that have compared the concentration of resin glands or resin to potency have found that the concentration of resin glands was negatively correlated with the potency (in other words, the fact that a variety of mj is resinous or has a lot of resin glands has little to do with its potency) Experience connoissers actually may look for a non-resinous but very potent variety - who needs cough inducing resin if it doesn't add to the high?
tell me what you think
angeldust30
Member
the site is erowid.com which is a site well know as a reliable data base but i have to admit i didn't check who wrote it
im an open minded & logic person, this makes no sense to me
the active cannabinoids are only in the resin glans
less resin equals more potency to this guy?
the active cannabinoids are only in the resin glans
less resin equals more potency to this guy?
לא גבר.
כמות הטריכומים לא מעידה על כמה קנבינואידים יש בתוכם.
יכולים להיות לך המון טריכומים עם מעט קנבינואידים בתוכם ויכולים להיות לך מעט טריכומים מלאים בקנבינואידים.
טריכומים זה כמו שקיות סופר, זה שיש לך הרבה מהם לא אומר שיש לך הרבה קניות ולהפך.
יתרה מכך, קנבינואידים עוברים דגרדציה בתנאים מסויימים ככה שגם אם בהתחלה (למרות שלא) מספר הטריכומים וגודלם היה מעיד על כמות הקנבינואידים הגיוני שבתנאים מסויימים ישארו הטריכומים אבל כמות החומר הפעיל בהם תרד.
שרף גם לא מעיד על אפקטיביות כי גם הוא עובר דגרדציה, אבל הוא אינדיקטור טוב יותר מבלוטות שרף.
ויש קנבינואידים אפקטיביים בכל חלקי הצמח, לא רק בבלוטות השרף. אפילו בשורשים.
הכמות שלהם אפסית לעומת מה שיש בבלוטות השרף.
אגב,
RAISIN
זה צימוקים.
כמות הטריכומים לא מעידה על כמה קנבינואידים יש בתוכם.
יכולים להיות לך המון טריכומים עם מעט קנבינואידים בתוכם ויכולים להיות לך מעט טריכומים מלאים בקנבינואידים.
טריכומים זה כמו שקיות סופר, זה שיש לך הרבה מהם לא אומר שיש לך הרבה קניות ולהפך.
יתרה מכך, קנבינואידים עוברים דגרדציה בתנאים מסויימים ככה שגם אם בהתחלה (למרות שלא) מספר הטריכומים וגודלם היה מעיד על כמות הקנבינואידים הגיוני שבתנאים מסויימים ישארו הטריכומים אבל כמות החומר הפעיל בהם תרד.
שרף גם לא מעיד על אפקטיביות כי גם הוא עובר דגרדציה, אבל הוא אינדיקטור טוב יותר מבלוטות שרף.
ויש קנבינואידים אפקטיביים בכל חלקי הצמח, לא רק בבלוטות השרף. אפילו בשורשים.
הכמות שלהם אפסית לעומת מה שיש בבלוטות השרף.
אגב,
RAISIN
זה צימוקים.
lol - raisin; good catch
i guess i have to agree with the theory as a theory!
with that said; i still feel strong that the potential for increased THC exist in more resinous strains,
THC (Tetrahydrocannabinol) gets a user high, a larger THC content will produce a stronger high.
Without THC you don't get high.
CBD (Cannabidiol) increases some of the effects of THC and decreases other effects of THC.
High levels of THC and low levels of CBD contribute to a strong, clear headed, more energetic high.
Cannabis that has a high level of both THC and CBD will produce a strong head-stone that feels almost dream like.
Cannabis that has low levels of THC and high levels of CBD produces more of a buzz or stoned feeling,
The mind feels dull and the body feels tired.
CBN (Cannabinol) is produced as THC ages and breaks down, this process is known as oxidization.
High levels of CBN tend to make the user feel messed up rather than high.
CBN levels can be kept to a minimum by storing cannabis products in a dark, cool, airtight environment.
THCV (Tetrahydrocannabivarin) is found primarily in strains of African and Asian cannabis.
THCV increases the speed and intensity of THC effects, but also causes the high to end sooner.
Weed that smells strong (prior to smoking) might indicate a high level of THCV.
CBC (Cannabichromene) is probably not psychoactive in pure form but is thought to interact with THC to enhance the high.
CBL (Cannabicyclol) is a degradative product like CBN, Light converts CBC to CBL.
i guess i have to agree with the theory as a theory!
with that said; i still feel strong that the potential for increased THC exist in more resinous strains,
THC (Tetrahydrocannabinol) gets a user high, a larger THC content will produce a stronger high.
Without THC you don't get high.
CBD (Cannabidiol) increases some of the effects of THC and decreases other effects of THC.
High levels of THC and low levels of CBD contribute to a strong, clear headed, more energetic high.
Cannabis that has a high level of both THC and CBD will produce a strong head-stone that feels almost dream like.
Cannabis that has low levels of THC and high levels of CBD produces more of a buzz or stoned feeling,
The mind feels dull and the body feels tired.
CBN (Cannabinol) is produced as THC ages and breaks down, this process is known as oxidization.
High levels of CBN tend to make the user feel messed up rather than high.
CBN levels can be kept to a minimum by storing cannabis products in a dark, cool, airtight environment.
THCV (Tetrahydrocannabivarin) is found primarily in strains of African and Asian cannabis.
THCV increases the speed and intensity of THC effects, but also causes the high to end sooner.
Weed that smells strong (prior to smoking) might indicate a high level of THCV.
CBC (Cannabichromene) is probably not psychoactive in pure form but is thought to interact with THC to enhance the high.
CBL (Cannabicyclol) is a degradative product like CBN, Light converts CBC to CBL.
יש הרבה זנים שבשרף שלהם אחוז החומרים הפעילים נמוך יותר ויש יותר אחוזים של חומרים שלא פעילים שמרכיבים את כמות השרף.
יש קורלציה דיי ברורה בין כמות השרף, כמות הטריכומים וגודלם לבין האקטיביות של הפרחים, אבל זוהי רק קורלציה ויש ממנה הרבה בריחות.
למשל בגידולים עם נורות חסכוניות יוצאים פרחים לבנים בטירוף מלאים שרף אבל החומרים הפעילים לא מצליחים להתפתח באותה מידה שהם מתפתחים תחת תאורה חזקה יותר ולכן הפרחים בכולל חלשים יותר.
או פרחים שאוכסנו בתנאים לא טובים - הם נשארים לבנים אבל האקטיביות שלהם צונחת.
יש קורלציה דיי ברורה בין כמות השרף, כמות הטריכומים וגודלם לבין האקטיביות של הפרחים, אבל זוהי רק קורלציה ויש ממנה הרבה בריחות.
למשל בגידולים עם נורות חסכוניות יוצאים פרחים לבנים בטירוף מלאים שרף אבל החומרים הפעילים לא מצליחים להתפתח באותה מידה שהם מתפתחים תחת תאורה חזקה יותר ולכן הפרחים בכולל חלשים יותר.
או פרחים שאוכסנו בתנאים לא טובים - הם נשארים לבנים אבל האקטיביות שלהם צונחת.
I agree with you on this one Bud+.
the quantity of resin is not an indication of "potent" cannabis.
this has been discussed somewhere else in icmag before.
from experience, I've smoked some really resinous eye-candy type of herb; and also average looking, not too 'crystally' looking one, and the less resinous one simply blew away the eye-candy one. on many ocassions.
but of course, there are also many very resinous plants that are also very potent and active.
it's kind of hard to try to pin point any indicator that can be detected with the eyes only that can tell us about potency and cannabinoid content.
the quantity of resin is not an indication of "potent" cannabis.
this has been discussed somewhere else in icmag before.
from experience, I've smoked some really resinous eye-candy type of herb; and also average looking, not too 'crystally' looking one, and the less resinous one simply blew away the eye-candy one. on many ocassions.
but of course, there are also many very resinous plants that are also very potent and active.
it's kind of hard to try to pin point any indicator that can be detected with the eyes only that can tell us about potency and cannabinoid content.
angeldust30
Member
שאלה קטנה בנוגע לזה
לפי מה שידוע לי למרות שיש הפרדה למה כל דבר עושה ברשימה של סוג טי אייץ סי אינו יכול לפעול טוב לבד
כלומר אם יתנו רק טי אייץ סי מבודד האפקט שיתקבל הוא לא מה שרשום שם לידו
האמריקאים מזמן המציאו תרופה מרוכזת שקוראים לה מרינול ולפי מה שאני שמעתי היא ממש לא טובה
יוצרת המון בחילות ותופעות לוואי לא טובים וממש לא אפקטיבית כמו ירוק טבעי
בעקבות הבידוד שלה משאר הקנבנואידים
זה מה שאני קראתי לפני שנים
אולי החלוקה הזאת טובה כדי לקבוע לאיזה חלק אחראי כל דבר
אבל בסופו של דבר מה שקובע את האיכות של הירוק זה השילוב של כל המרכיבים הללו
לכן אמרתי שייבוש הופך ירוק לפסיכואקטיבי ואנשים יצאו עליי מכל כיוון
מכיוון שחלק מהמרכיבים על הירוק צריכים לעבור תהליך כדי שיתקבל הסאטלה המקורית של הצמח
כדי שהאישיות של הצמח תצא לגמרי
ככה אני קורא לזה
לפי מה שידוע לי למרות שיש הפרדה למה כל דבר עושה ברשימה של סוג טי אייץ סי אינו יכול לפעול טוב לבד
כלומר אם יתנו רק טי אייץ סי מבודד האפקט שיתקבל הוא לא מה שרשום שם לידו
האמריקאים מזמן המציאו תרופה מרוכזת שקוראים לה מרינול ולפי מה שאני שמעתי היא ממש לא טובה
יוצרת המון בחילות ותופעות לוואי לא טובים וממש לא אפקטיבית כמו ירוק טבעי
בעקבות הבידוד שלה משאר הקנבנואידים
זה מה שאני קראתי לפני שנים
אולי החלוקה הזאת טובה כדי לקבוע לאיזה חלק אחראי כל דבר
אבל בסופו של דבר מה שקובע את האיכות של הירוק זה השילוב של כל המרכיבים הללו
לכן אמרתי שייבוש הופך ירוק לפסיכואקטיבי ואנשים יצאו עליי מכל כיוון
מכיוון שחלק מהמרכיבים על הירוק צריכים לעבור תהליך כדי שיתקבל הסאטלה המקורית של הצמח
כדי שהאישיות של הצמח תצא לגמרי
ככה אני קורא לזה
