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Mysterious Men Dropping From Helicopters To Chop Down NorCal Marijuana Grows
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This is the answer.
I don't know how it is in Nor Cal but back east you can literally trip over licensed, unemployed, newly minted attorneys who have just enough skills to be dangerous and should be hungry to make a name for themselves. If this is really happening to legal grows on peoples own property and they have at least some images of the people/choppers involved, making a case for trespass should be simple. It may take a couple of tries to get one to stick but that would shut them down right quick. They are arrogantly banking on people not going after them using the legal system.
Maybe I'm naive but it seems that protection of peoples basic property rights is something that local/county level judges tend to get behind regardless of their political leanings.
The Good Ol' B0y network in Mendo is alive and well. Not sure if anyone can touch LEAR. But, I hope people try.
Maybe identifying the individual people in the company, and trying to find where they live, so ya can at least "inconvenience " their lives a little.
However, One can make a case regarding the people who are dropping from the Helicopters may not be good people to mess with.
Having said that, the best defense in Pot Central is a low profile. Getting in the LEAR peoples' faces is NOT that. But, they deserve it. Doing this in a small community should carry some PAYBACK....
Maybe identifying the individual people in the company, and trying to find where they live, so ya can at least "inconvenience " their lives a little.
However, One can make a case regarding the people who are dropping from the Helicopters may not be good people to mess with.
Having said that, the best defense in Pot Central is a low profile. Getting in the LEAR peoples' faces is NOT that. But, they deserve it. Doing this in a small community should carry some PAYBACK....
Yep, it will take the right person(s) to push an action against Lear but it could be done fairly easily. All it would take is pinning them down on one "raid" and the others would fall like dominoes. It sounds like fun actually.
In reality, I'd be surprised if the wheels aren't already in motion. The lady in one of the earlier videos would be my choice for a sympathetic plaintiff.
While I'm not advocating for violence in any way shape or form, now that the word is out, these guys are bound to run into someone with a screw loose who is willing to gamble with their own life. It creates an unsafe situation for everyone involved including real law enforcement who may be mistaken for these vigilantes or may get drawn into the crossfire. There is the public policy argument right there.
In reality, I'd be surprised if the wheels aren't already in motion. The lady in one of the earlier videos would be my choice for a sympathetic plaintiff.
While I'm not advocating for violence in any way shape or form, now that the word is out, these guys are bound to run into someone with a screw loose who is willing to gamble with their own life. It creates an unsafe situation for everyone involved including real law enforcement who may be mistaken for these vigilantes or may get drawn into the crossfire. There is the public policy argument right there.
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The pres. And owner of lear ,paul trouette is said to live in brooktrails.
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I never been ripped off or robbed ..mainly because I do have a screw loose... yall need to find where the helicopter takes off from..... and somebody should use extreme violence when they land on your property violating your rights...sometimes you have to fight for what you believe.....maybe offer a reward for information on these dickheads...someone will talk
Lear Asset Management Inc.
400 Sulphur Bank Dr
Clearlake Oaks, CA 95423
Registered Agent Paul Trouette
http://www.corporationwiki.com/California/Clearlake-Oaks/lear-asset-management-inc/108481274.aspx
400 Sulphur Bank Dr
Clearlake Oaks, CA 95423
Registered Agent Paul Trouette
http://www.corporationwiki.com/California/Clearlake-Oaks/lear-asset-management-inc/108481274.aspx
sometimes you got to pay if you want to play.....they are violating your rights,,,stand up or shut up...I have always hated the peacefull hippy stoner bullshit... I believe in smoking pot and being violent when needed LOL YEEHAW....I want the old flag...DONT TREAD ON ME.its all you wussies that got us to be such a police state..
Its interesting to me to hear people talk about what they think they'd do if a helicopter was to land on their property.
How many of you have had one on your place so low it shook? When that happens all you want to do is get the fuck out of dodge, not jump in the fox hole.
How many of you have had one on your place so low it shook? When that happens all you want to do is get the fuck out of dodge, not jump in the fox hole.
hey bro I know all about surveillance ,copters planes and extradition....well I got some.....the reason they get away with it cause most growers aint joined at the hip and working as a group..cause then the gov would get them on rico and such...until they hit the wrong grower it will continue,,, 2nd parties doing raids without proper paperwork is the exact thing some before us was willing to die for....well anyone and without reason anyhow....americans are turning to sheeple pussies...you might say nnnaaaa but your still getting fucked ........YEEHAW recognise
by the way due to my hearing issues I hear choppers like RADAR from mash
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Votes: 0
Pubdate: Wed, 01 Oct 2014
Source: SF Weekly (CA)
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Author: Chris Roberts
Cops Answering to CA's Attorney General are the Marijuana-Eradicating Agents in Mendocino
THE STATE'S MYSTERY MEN SWOOP IN
Attorney General Kamala Harris has had an uneasy relationship with marijuana. As San Francisco's District Attorney, Harris opposed the push to legalize marijuana in California in 2010. Marijuana advocates still campaigned heavily on her behalf during the AG race that fall, claiming the alternative, L.A. District Attorney Steve Cooley, was much worse. With her margin of victory a meager 75,000 votes, the state's roughly 750,000 card-carrying medical marijuana patients may have made the difference.
Since her election, Harris has mostly dodged the topic of weed. In the marijuana industry's hour of need during 2011's federal crackdown, Harris punted "clarifications" of state marijuana law to the Legislature. Earlier this year, she laughed off a question from a reporter asking if her stance on legalization had changed. That was on Aug. 5. That same day, in Mendocino County, law enforcement officers working for her state Department of Justice were up in the sky in a rented helicopter, looking for marijuana patches to raid without warrants.
Several farms in Potter Valley were hit that day. One was almost certainly part-time Potrero Hill resident Susan Schindler's. Schindler, a champion marijuana grower who took home a Cannabis Cup award last year for one of her non-psychoactive, low-THC medical strains, was away from her Mendocino plot when she received a frantic phone call from a neighbor. He informed her that men in camouflage had descended from an unmarked helicopter and were cutting down the garden.
The men who visited her 120-acre spread left no paperwork, no search warrants, and no business cards. They also declined to identify themselves, her neighbor says. She has yet to be officially informed who raided her property. All she has is what's left of the plants, which were grown from heirloom genetics developed by master grower Lawrence Ringo. The enormous, tree-sized cannabis plants in cages, all left in place with a precise cut to the plant's stalk at the base, are all now dead and brown, as she later showed off to a reporter from CBS-5.
Farther up the valley, helicopters also paid a visit to a farm belonging to a grower who wants to be identified only as "Ty." At Ty's plot of land, he tells SF Weekly, the copters deposited men who identified themselves as members of the "Mendocino Major Crimes Task Force," a state-funded outfit led by Special Agent Richard Russell. After slicing water lines, draining a 500-gallon water tank Ty used for drinking ( always a nice touch in a drought ), and destroying 50 plants Ty says he had on two separate parcels of land in compliance with county law, the men departed.
Russell, once a member of the state Bureau of Narcotics Enforcement ( which ran anti-weed operations under the banner of CAMP, the Campaign Against Marijuana Planting, before Brown gutted the BNE's budget in 2011 ) is now on the state payroll as a prison guard, records show. According to Ty, he claimed no allegiance to anyone but "the state AG's office." What the men who visited Schindler's garden said - referencing state law of a six-plant maximum, rather than the county limit of 25 and federal law's zero - suggests they were state-level, too.
The anxiety all marijuana growers feel peaks this time of year, when plants begin to blossom into valuable commodities, and when a veritable alphabet soup of various law enforcement agencies takes to the skies: DEA, CAMP, COMMET ( County of Mendocino Marijuana Eradication Team ), state Fish and Wildlife, and local sheriffs.
This year, an additional element was thrown into the mix: private security. A firm called LEAR Asset Management, run by a marijuana-hating Mendocino man active with the local deer hunters' association, won a large contract from a timber company to clear its woodlands of outlaw weed growers. He invited media along during a July junket.
LEAR was initially suspected in the Potter Valley raids due to the paramilitary tactics and attitudes employed, according to growers' accounts - and also due to the fact that no law enforcement agency initially claimed responsibility for the raids.
After Ty snapped a photo of the chopper with its N-number on the tail, both county and state law enforcement have since confirmed the raid. A spokesman for Harris tells SF Weekly that state DOJ officers were in on the operation, but that the entire operation answered to Mendocino County Sheriff Tom Allman.
Allman's office says that sheriff's deputies participated in the raid, which was a joint operation between them and Russell's task force. In an interview Thursday, Allman says that Russell technically answers to him and four other local lawmen, but that "there's no requirement the state checks in with me."
As for the cut-and-depart tactics: That's all perfectly legal. The cannabis-eradicators are using the "open fields doctrine," which means that any marijuana stand not within the "curtilage" of a residence can be destroyed without a warrant after being spotted from the air ( ironically, a pot stand can also be cut down if it's too close to a house in Mendocino ).
Does Harris know what her people are doing in her name? A Harris spokesman was still checking into Russell's raid at press time. In the meantime, growers who say they are following all the rules are as anxious as they've ever been. Now would be a good time for them to hear from her.
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Votes: 0
Pubdate: Wed, 01 Oct 2014
Source: SF Weekly (CA)
Copyright: 2014 Village Voice Media
Contact: http://www.sfweekly.com/feedback/EmailAnEmployee?department=letters
Website: http://www.sfweekly.com/
Details: http://www.mapinc.org/media/812
Author: Chris Roberts
Cops Answering to CA's Attorney General are the Marijuana-Eradicating Agents in Mendocino
THE STATE'S MYSTERY MEN SWOOP IN
Attorney General Kamala Harris has had an uneasy relationship with marijuana. As San Francisco's District Attorney, Harris opposed the push to legalize marijuana in California in 2010. Marijuana advocates still campaigned heavily on her behalf during the AG race that fall, claiming the alternative, L.A. District Attorney Steve Cooley, was much worse. With her margin of victory a meager 75,000 votes, the state's roughly 750,000 card-carrying medical marijuana patients may have made the difference.
Since her election, Harris has mostly dodged the topic of weed. In the marijuana industry's hour of need during 2011's federal crackdown, Harris punted "clarifications" of state marijuana law to the Legislature. Earlier this year, she laughed off a question from a reporter asking if her stance on legalization had changed. That was on Aug. 5. That same day, in Mendocino County, law enforcement officers working for her state Department of Justice were up in the sky in a rented helicopter, looking for marijuana patches to raid without warrants.
Several farms in Potter Valley were hit that day. One was almost certainly part-time Potrero Hill resident Susan Schindler's. Schindler, a champion marijuana grower who took home a Cannabis Cup award last year for one of her non-psychoactive, low-THC medical strains, was away from her Mendocino plot when she received a frantic phone call from a neighbor. He informed her that men in camouflage had descended from an unmarked helicopter and were cutting down the garden.
The men who visited her 120-acre spread left no paperwork, no search warrants, and no business cards. They also declined to identify themselves, her neighbor says. She has yet to be officially informed who raided her property. All she has is what's left of the plants, which were grown from heirloom genetics developed by master grower Lawrence Ringo. The enormous, tree-sized cannabis plants in cages, all left in place with a precise cut to the plant's stalk at the base, are all now dead and brown, as she later showed off to a reporter from CBS-5.
Farther up the valley, helicopters also paid a visit to a farm belonging to a grower who wants to be identified only as "Ty." At Ty's plot of land, he tells SF Weekly, the copters deposited men who identified themselves as members of the "Mendocino Major Crimes Task Force," a state-funded outfit led by Special Agent Richard Russell. After slicing water lines, draining a 500-gallon water tank Ty used for drinking ( always a nice touch in a drought ), and destroying 50 plants Ty says he had on two separate parcels of land in compliance with county law, the men departed.
Russell, once a member of the state Bureau of Narcotics Enforcement ( which ran anti-weed operations under the banner of CAMP, the Campaign Against Marijuana Planting, before Brown gutted the BNE's budget in 2011 ) is now on the state payroll as a prison guard, records show. According to Ty, he claimed no allegiance to anyone but "the state AG's office." What the men who visited Schindler's garden said - referencing state law of a six-plant maximum, rather than the county limit of 25 and federal law's zero - suggests they were state-level, too.
The anxiety all marijuana growers feel peaks this time of year, when plants begin to blossom into valuable commodities, and when a veritable alphabet soup of various law enforcement agencies takes to the skies: DEA, CAMP, COMMET ( County of Mendocino Marijuana Eradication Team ), state Fish and Wildlife, and local sheriffs.
This year, an additional element was thrown into the mix: private security. A firm called LEAR Asset Management, run by a marijuana-hating Mendocino man active with the local deer hunters' association, won a large contract from a timber company to clear its woodlands of outlaw weed growers. He invited media along during a July junket.
LEAR was initially suspected in the Potter Valley raids due to the paramilitary tactics and attitudes employed, according to growers' accounts - and also due to the fact that no law enforcement agency initially claimed responsibility for the raids.
After Ty snapped a photo of the chopper with its N-number on the tail, both county and state law enforcement have since confirmed the raid. A spokesman for Harris tells SF Weekly that state DOJ officers were in on the operation, but that the entire operation answered to Mendocino County Sheriff Tom Allman.
Allman's office says that sheriff's deputies participated in the raid, which was a joint operation between them and Russell's task force. In an interview Thursday, Allman says that Russell technically answers to him and four other local lawmen, but that "there's no requirement the state checks in with me."
As for the cut-and-depart tactics: That's all perfectly legal. The cannabis-eradicators are using the "open fields doctrine," which means that any marijuana stand not within the "curtilage" of a residence can be destroyed without a warrant after being spotted from the air ( ironically, a pot stand can also be cut down if it's too close to a house in Mendocino ).
Does Harris know what her people are doing in her name? A Harris spokesman was still checking into Russell's raid at press time. In the meantime, growers who say they are following all the rules are as anxious as they've ever been. Now would be a good time for them to hear from her.
So Allman was not only aware, but involved... Not gonna make him any more popular among the "Culture People." He's done. Never will get re elected.
It is intense. I agree. It is like the house is coming off its' foundation. Makes ya feel like what those in a war zone must feel.
It is intense. I agree. It is like the house is coming off its' foundation. Makes ya feel like what those in a war zone must feel.
yes my place shook so hard I thought they were coming through the house at times, never landed thank God but it did happen several times. I'd like to do all kinds of unmentionable things to those pieces of shit and it would be entirely justified, except I'd become as or more evil than them and that is unacceptable. For real truly good people should never stoop to their levels. Which is exactly why we must fight our more primitive animalistic instincts in the name of progress, why we must resist blind rage and become the peaceful hippies stoned trout despises so much!
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Luther Burbank
Oh Christ, I roll my eyes every time I hear someone invoke Gadsden's flag. You know what you'd do the first time the government tread on you with automatic weapons and helicopters? You'd roll over and be tread on ya would. It's easy to sit at a keyboard and talk big - there ain't nuthin to it when you don't have to do it.
real shit. worst thing is that a shootout anywhere would just make us look bad. I am so thankful i made it through this season without any more visits from the cops. now just highway stops and jackboys to worry about.
seems like 2014 is a pretty bad year for this kind of shit
A shootout in Mendo would ruin your career, one way or another. Nothing Low Key about starting a ground war in a small-town with armed mercenaries given entitlements to be there.. haha. You'd get shut down, at the very least if not Shot down.
Yeah, kamala Harris shows what She is really made of, and why She was chosen in the first place. Minority Woman from San Francisco's wealthy Legal elite (I was married into this group for a few years, moved on to be "Me," for better or worse), but obviously with more teeth than I thought. Bummer. She is prob thinking of Her future appointments. I shiver to think of how far She could go.
Yeah, kamala Harris shows what She is really made of, and why She was chosen in the first place. Minority Woman from San Francisco's wealthy Legal elite (I was married into this group for a few years, moved on to be "Me," for better or worse), but obviously with more teeth than I thought. Bummer. She is prob thinking of Her future appointments. I shiver to think of how far She could go.
i like how they are playing the hunters against the growers in this one. what's the angle there i wonder.
As if the desire to kill your own meat somehow conflicts with the desire to grow your own weeed.
