My parents had it easy

[Guest]

One time, my daughter, who has grown into a beautiful woman inside and out, was just cussing out my wife and I. She went so far as hit her mom with a shoe. As I removing my belt, she told me her teachers told me I couldn't spank her and she could report me to the police. I stopped grabbed the phone , dialled 91 for her telling her she could finish dialling 911 when I got done spanking her. She didn't. The next day I was down at her jr high school with her, the principal and ALL her teachers. I know the principal personally. The teachers, who had told her this, didn't have any kids but they sure as hell knew how to raise them. Like alot of "experts" they had just loads of book knowledge but ZERO practical experience. It got very heated with me telling them to teach my kids and I would raise them. Long story short..one of those great "teachers/experts" kid just got himself in alot of trouble at a very young age and has zero respect for any adults. This was told to me by the principal recently. He told me this when we ran into each other the other day. I am/was the only person to date that has called the teachers on their surrogate parenting. Sad.

 

[minds_I]

GOOD! Adults physically abusing minors should be made illegal...

I agree, no child should be abused.

However, corporal punishment is an effective means of controlling unacceptable behavior. If used sparingly.

I was spanked as a child, I was open hand smacked as a young teen. I do not resent my father or mother. I do not feel battered, I do not feel abused.

I do not recall a single instance when I was spanked for nothing.

Your view is clear, but there is a distinct shift inthe parent/child relationship since I was a child. I believe its due to the loss of control a parent can exercise on thier child.

Abuse should never be tolerated.

Disrespect and disobedience should not be tolerated either...which is the great good served?

minds_I

 

[Smokin' Chopper]

First I'd like to address the assertion that there are "very muddled opinions".

Haha, I was going to get back to that actually. In short, many of us parents were there in work attire. Mine happened to be dirty jeans and t-shirt. I don't have any kind of strict dress code in my shop. But when I drive up to the school and notice the BMW I parked next to has an ID tag in the window for "D" level security clearance for Martin/Marietta, its quite possible, some parent inside is science related. When I see a parent inside wearing hospital scrubs with her ID tag stating she's a doctor, still hanging around her neck and talking to a dean about her odd (in my opinion, ok, there's one...) kid, attending summer school due to his poor grades and attendance. Its not a stereotype people...

Just like Sgt. Stedanko here said, its an observation. So I salute the Sarge here and spark this bowl in honor.

SC

 

[Liam]

Spanking doesn't work, its been proven over and over, kids crave attention, and unless you praise them for good behavior, they will learn to piss you off to get attention. It just causes the kid to be more secretive and lie more.

I saw this in my neighbors, immediately after being punished they would shrug it off, and would actively do things that they KNEW would piss their mom off. I never ever saw her talk normal to her kids, always just yelling, even in front of me, which makes it awkward being the friend thats visiting and this shits going on.

I was never ever spanked, not once, and I matured WAY faster than my peers, not saying its a correlation, but I could see how being spanked would just make me emotional, and emotional people arn't very mature (WOMEN!). I think the sooner your parents treat you like an adult the sooner you grow up.

Obviously kids can do something to earn a spanking, I just think if you doing it more than once a year, your failing as a parent. With divorced families this shit becomes even more f'd up, the most messed up kids I knew had divorced parents with one parent that spoils em, and the parent they live with being overbearing.



Emo isn't gay, and first and foremost, there is nothing wrong with being gay. The issue is that as sex becomes more important in ones life, the more power women will get as they control the supply, meaning what they want in men is what men will become. It is evolutionary, in our species the female selects her mate, so guys being emotional and wearing makeup and caring about their looks isn't surprising at all, especially since young boys are naive and believe that when a woman says she wants a 'nice guy' they actually beleive that.

Emo won't last past their teens as they learn women like being treated like shit, but were looking at a far more appearance concerned generation than before. Its basically metrosexual for skinny weaklings.

Either way, Emo isn't as bad as goth.

 

[Smokin' Chopper]

kids crave attention, and unless you praise them for good behavior, they will learn to piss you off to get attention. It just causes the kid to be more secretive and lie more.

Obviously kids can do something to earn a spanking, I just think if you doing it more than once a year, your failing as a parent.

I must have been a very strange child then... I never craved attention but rather preferred to be left in solitude. I was annoyed by what I considered "prying inquery".

I do agree though spanking can be over done, but rather I tend to think that some kids just realize it isn't all that bad. Perhaps they are ones that crave attention and for whatever reason even bad attention pleases them. That kind of thinking goes way beyond the whole gay Emo thing in my opinion.

SC

 

[Guest]

See, 'causing teens to be more secretive' is only a problem when you as a parent believe that growing, developing teenager has, somehow, a right to privacy.

Now I'm not saying that their privacy should be invaded on a whim, as its a good thing, however, it is a gift that goes along with responsibility. You as a parent have the ability to make any minor child's life a living hell, and unless you're ready, willing and able to do this, you're going to have kids do whatever it is they feel like doing. Junior can't keep up with his schoolwork? Do you want him to?

If you answer is yes, then you might have to get *drastic*. My parents had to get *drastic* with me. Spanking as appropriate and systematic removal of all joys in my life sealed the deal, I grew up to become a responsible, respectable adult.

You as the adult, and the child as the minor, you have extraoridinary control over them. The bottom line is, the child WILL submit to your honor. There is no second option.

If you say "my gosh I just cannot control my child, marilyn manson arrrahghghth"

You're just not drastic enough. Relinquish your parental rights, wimp.

 

[Guest]

and emotional people aren't very mature (WOMEN!)

I'd argue that emotional people could be more mature than unemotional..that's what's great about stereotypes I guess =)